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	<title>Comments on: Quasi-Hits? V, FlashForward, Cougar Town &amp; The Middle: Which Won&#039;t Make It To Next Fall?</title>
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		<title>By: chaos amoeba</title>
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		<dc:creator>chaos amoeba</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Dec 2009 01:54:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m sorry... this is my first time reading Variety.  Is it industry standard to say things like &quot;sked&quot;, &quot;laffer&quot;, and &quot;aud&quot; or is that Variety being well...

Regarding FF plot lines, as far as I understand, the book has several interesting avenues. For example, *spoiler* the book suggests another FF that extends far into the future (think millions of years) where no one sees the future except a few -- and then the question is why did those people see the future? *end spoiler*</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m sorry&#8230; this is my first time reading Variety.  Is it industry standard to say things like &#8220;sked&#8221;, &#8220;laffer&#8221;, and &#8220;aud&#8221; or is that Variety being well&#8230;</p>
<p>Regarding FF plot lines, as far as I understand, the book has several interesting avenues. For example, *spoiler* the book suggests another FF that extends far into the future (think millions of years) where no one sees the future except a few &#8212; and then the question is why did those people see the future? *end spoiler*</p>
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		<title>By: jay</title>
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		<dc:creator>jay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Dec 2009 16:36:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot; It&#039;s a disservice to Cougartwn ... &quot; I agree, but it shows the taste of the American TV watching public that Cougartown IS a QUASI-hit. It&#039;s a disservice, as far as quality goes, to put CT in the same league as V and Flashforward. CT is at best a run of the mill sitcom - though I think its better than 2 and a Half Men, which is a bonafide hit. The two fdramatic shows were creative gambles which at least tried to be original and thought-provocing. As usual, the People chose the same old relioacble cop and stale sitcom dreeck over anything new. ( This computer is not working properly so I have to let the two typos stand. Thanks, Microsoft Windows XP.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8221; It&#8217;s a disservice to Cougartwn &#8230; &#8221; I agree, but it shows the taste of the American TV watching public that Cougartown IS a QUASI-hit. It&#8217;s a disservice, as far as quality goes, to put CT in the same league as V and Flashforward. CT is at best a run of the mill sitcom &#8211; though I think its better than 2 and a Half Men, which is a bonafide hit. The two fdramatic shows were creative gambles which at least tried to be original and thought-provocing. As usual, the People chose the same old relioacble cop and stale sitcom dreeck over anything new. ( This computer is not working properly so I have to let the two typos stand. Thanks, Microsoft Windows XP.)</p>
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		<title>By: Gleebo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gleebo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Dec 2009 09:26:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ABC needs to do the following.

- pair FF after Lost
   -guest cast a big name actor that usually doesn&#039;t do TV

   -develop characters so we give a crap...I have watched every 
    episode and for the life of me cant list a single characters name

   -cut budget (probably isnt all that expensive since the explosive  
    pilot...and they use the same stock footage of Fiennes character 
    every episode.)

   -dumb it down (unfortunately this is a way to keep people watching)
   -get with JJ Abrams as a consultant &amp; make FF part of the 
    Lost-verse

   -get with ABC to plan a course of action that maps out what they 
    might go with the show in a 2nd or 3rd season(this was the best
    idea that ABC/Lost could have done when it was treading water S3

For V
    - sink every spare dollar you have into a huge March relaunch...
      Im talking billboards, giveaway contests, publicity stunts. 
      Basically take everything they did before it started and do it
      again....tenfold.

    - Come back with a 2 or 3 hour movie relaunch in March...on any
      day of the week besides timeslots with American Idol in it.

    - no.more.Morena.Baccarin.in.short.hair

    - torture Scott Wolf at least 3 times an episode. Seriously, 
      get creative with it too...drown him in pudding, set him on fire
      underground, scoop his eyes out with a spoon, run him over
      with a steam roller...etc...etc...etc.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ABC needs to do the following.</p>
<p>- pair FF after Lost<br />
   -guest cast a big name actor that usually doesn&#8217;t do TV</p>
<p>   -develop characters so we give a crap&#8230;I have watched every<br />
    episode and for the life of me cant list a single characters name</p>
<p>   -cut budget (probably isnt all that expensive since the explosive<br />
    pilot&#8230;and they use the same stock footage of Fiennes character<br />
    every episode.)</p>
<p>   -dumb it down (unfortunately this is a way to keep people watching)<br />
   -get with JJ Abrams as a consultant &amp; make FF part of the<br />
    Lost-verse</p>
<p>   -get with ABC to plan a course of action that maps out what they<br />
    might go with the show in a 2nd or 3rd season(this was the best<br />
    idea that ABC/Lost could have done when it was treading water S3</p>
<p>For V<br />
    &#8211; sink every spare dollar you have into a huge March relaunch&#8230;<br />
      Im talking billboards, giveaway contests, publicity stunts.<br />
      Basically take everything they did before it started and do it<br />
      again&#8230;.tenfold.</p>
<p>    &#8211; Come back with a 2 or 3 hour movie relaunch in March&#8230;on any<br />
      day of the week besides timeslots with American Idol in it.</p>
<p>    &#8211; no.more.Morena.Baccarin.in.short.hair</p>
<p>    &#8211; torture Scott Wolf at least 3 times an episode. Seriously,<br />
      get creative with it too&#8230;drown him in pudding, set him on fire<br />
      underground, scoop his eyes out with a spoon, run him over<br />
      with a steam roller&#8230;etc&#8230;etc&#8230;etc.</p>
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		<title>By: johnthemon</title>
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		<dc:creator>johnthemon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Dec 2009 02:51:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m guessing Flash Forward will be flushed away to the stagnant sewer of cancelled crap by season&#039;s end. V might also, but I think it has a better chance of getting a season 2. Cougar Town is in an odd pickle. It&#039;s performing well, but it has a lead-in that is a genuine hit, not a quasi-hit. Its return seems likely, but ABC might test it out on a different night to see how it does paired with Scrubs or Better off Ted. It will probably be around next year, depending on whether they test its lead-in dependency. 

The Middle is a lock for renewal. It may not seem like it, but it&#039;s just the kind of thing ABC needs. It&#039;s performing solidly. I can&#039;t really explain I just have a really good feeling about it.

As far as my own viewing habits, the only one I watch is Cougar Town (never watched Flash Forward, checked out the V pilot, it was okay nothing special, thought the middle was trying to hard) and I&#039;m considering stopping on Cougar Town it just has an addictive quality and Courteney Cox is very entertaining.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m guessing Flash Forward will be flushed away to the stagnant sewer of cancelled crap by season&#8217;s end. V might also, but I think it has a better chance of getting a season 2. Cougar Town is in an odd pickle. It&#8217;s performing well, but it has a lead-in that is a genuine hit, not a quasi-hit. Its return seems likely, but ABC might test it out on a different night to see how it does paired with Scrubs or Better off Ted. It will probably be around next year, depending on whether they test its lead-in dependency. </p>
<p>The Middle is a lock for renewal. It may not seem like it, but it&#8217;s just the kind of thing ABC needs. It&#8217;s performing solidly. I can&#8217;t really explain I just have a really good feeling about it.</p>
<p>As far as my own viewing habits, the only one I watch is Cougar Town (never watched Flash Forward, checked out the V pilot, it was okay nothing special, thought the middle was trying to hard) and I&#8217;m considering stopping on Cougar Town it just has an addictive quality and Courteney Cox is very entertaining.</p>
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		<title>By: Carol</title>
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		<dc:creator>Carol</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Dec 2009 02:17:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Michael. Then FlashForward would be worse than it is now. To me Elizabeth Mitchell is an awful actress. I don&#039;t get why they keep casting her in stuff.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Michael. Then FlashForward would be worse than it is now. To me Elizabeth Mitchell is an awful actress. I don&#8217;t get why they keep casting her in stuff.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Nov 2009 17:59:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wonder what would have happened if Elizabeth Mitchell and Kevin Nilon(sp) were the leads on Flash Forward. I think they just need to move the story along on Flash and it would be fine.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wonder what would have happened if Elizabeth Mitchell and Kevin Nilon(sp) were the leads on Flash Forward. I think they just need to move the story along on Flash and it would be fine.</p>
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		<title>By: Aquat1c F1sh</title>
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		<dc:creator>Aquat1c F1sh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Nov 2009 12:47:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m betting on FlashForward and The Middle not making it to next season... While Cougar Town will definitely make it (why is this even a question?).

As for V... It&#039;s still too soon to call, but as long as it doesn&#039;t fall too harshly after the hiatus, I think it&#039;ll be fine.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m betting on FlashForward and The Middle not making it to next season&#8230; While Cougar Town will definitely make it (why is this even a question?).</p>
<p>As for V&#8230; It&#8217;s still too soon to call, but as long as it doesn&#8217;t fall too harshly after the hiatus, I think it&#8217;ll be fine.</p>
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		<title>By: aznfratboy</title>
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		<dc:creator>aznfratboy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Nov 2009 11:45:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>V will almost definitely get a 2010 renewal, sure, it&#039;s fallen since it&#039;s premiere, but what you&#039;ve got to remember is the amount of promotion it got in the week before it airred, they took to the skies and wrote stuff for gods sake! There are also people who watched it and went &quot;wait, i have to remember something that happened last week? no way, imma go watch a show thats the same redundant crap week in week out, CSI for me!

FF is in danger for 2010 though. It really needs to focus on the plot, not the characters, the world lost 20 million people in 137 seconds, Hitler couldn&#039;t even achieve that, and the storyline is focused on infidelity and some guys self-esteem?

The Middle, it seems decent, family oriented sitcom, at least it&#039;s different in the fact that there isn&#039;t a Homer Simpson like dad, (Family Guy, According to Jim, Still Standing, Grounded For Life, etc) if ABC wants to develop a comedy block and be serious about it, then The Middle is needed for 2010.

Cougar Town is also essential to the comedy block&#039;s success, along with Modern Family, it will almost definitely get a 2010 renewal, it&#039;s been getting 3-3.2 ratings in the 18-49 demo, except for sports and thanksgiving weeks, which is fairly decent I guess.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>V will almost definitely get a 2010 renewal, sure, it&#8217;s fallen since it&#8217;s premiere, but what you&#8217;ve got to remember is the amount of promotion it got in the week before it airred, they took to the skies and wrote stuff for gods sake! There are also people who watched it and went &#8220;wait, i have to remember something that happened last week? no way, imma go watch a show thats the same redundant crap week in week out, CSI for me!</p>
<p>FF is in danger for 2010 though. It really needs to focus on the plot, not the characters, the world lost 20 million people in 137 seconds, Hitler couldn&#8217;t even achieve that, and the storyline is focused on infidelity and some guys self-esteem?</p>
<p>The Middle, it seems decent, family oriented sitcom, at least it&#8217;s different in the fact that there isn&#8217;t a Homer Simpson like dad, (Family Guy, According to Jim, Still Standing, Grounded For Life, etc) if ABC wants to develop a comedy block and be serious about it, then The Middle is needed for 2010.</p>
<p>Cougar Town is also essential to the comedy block&#8217;s success, along with Modern Family, it will almost definitely get a 2010 renewal, it&#8217;s been getting 3-3.2 ratings in the 18-49 demo, except for sports and thanksgiving weeks, which is fairly decent I guess.</p>
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		<title>By: Rob R</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rob R</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Nov 2009 05:24:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I love &quot;The Middle.&quot;  It has a fantastic cast, and good whimsical writing and the chemistry is getting better and better.  Same for &quot;Cougar Town,&quot; which is improving and the cast is gelling.  ABC is thrilled with these two shows plus &quot;Modern Family.&quot;  

&quot;Fast Forward&quot; is a mess, but possibly salvageable.  It is unfair to compare FF with &quot;Lost,&quot; one of the greatest series in the history of television.   The greatness of &quot;Lost&quot; is in its characters, and the fact that after a few short hours of &quot;Lost&quot; back in 2004, we were in love with the characters.   &quot;Fast Forward&quot; has not achieved that intimacy in that we care deeply for the characters.  &quot;Lost&quot; had us immediately, caring for Jack, Kate, Sawyer, Locke, Sun and Jin, and Charlie (gulp).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love &#8220;The Middle.&#8221;  It has a fantastic cast, and good whimsical writing and the chemistry is getting better and better.  Same for &#8220;Cougar Town,&#8221; which is improving and the cast is gelling.  ABC is thrilled with these two shows plus &#8220;Modern Family.&#8221;  </p>
<p>&#8220;Fast Forward&#8221; is a mess, but possibly salvageable.  It is unfair to compare FF with &#8220;Lost,&#8221; one of the greatest series in the history of television.   The greatness of &#8220;Lost&#8221; is in its characters, and the fact that after a few short hours of &#8220;Lost&#8221; back in 2004, we were in love with the characters.   &#8220;Fast Forward&#8221; has not achieved that intimacy in that we care deeply for the characters.  &#8220;Lost&#8221; had us immediately, caring for Jack, Kate, Sawyer, Locke, Sun and Jin, and Charlie (gulp).</p>
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		<title>By: Tommy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tommy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Nov 2009 05:16:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BG, the reason that the prospects don&#039;t look good for FF is that the ratings that matter (the demo) are really low. It&#039;s one of ABC&#039;s lowest rated dramas that&#039;s still on the air. Total viewers are meaningless except for press releases. ABC funneled a ton of promotion into the launch of the series, and it premiered very well, but now it&#039;s just another flop that&#039;s probably rather expensive to make. FF&#039;s only hope now is for the back half of the season to increase the ratings or ABC will be canceling it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BG, the reason that the prospects don&#8217;t look good for FF is that the ratings that matter (the demo) are really low. It&#8217;s one of ABC&#8217;s lowest rated dramas that&#8217;s still on the air. Total viewers are meaningless except for press releases. ABC funneled a ton of promotion into the launch of the series, and it premiered very well, but now it&#8217;s just another flop that&#8217;s probably rather expensive to make. FF&#8217;s only hope now is for the back half of the season to increase the ratings or ABC will be canceling it.</p>
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		<title>By: BG</title>
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		<dc:creator>BG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Nov 2009 04:32:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why will ABC not bring Flashforward back? It is not like ABC has many choices, and if gets around 9 million, plus great DVR viewing, ABC will keep the show.

With all due respect, you guys make it sound like the sky is falling for flashforward. As for V, i see the show probably be back for a limited 13-15 episode next season.

The best solution for FF will be a much shorter season like LOST. A season with 17 episodes will suffice</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why will ABC not bring Flashforward back? It is not like ABC has many choices, and if gets around 9 million, plus great DVR viewing, ABC will keep the show.</p>
<p>With all due respect, you guys make it sound like the sky is falling for flashforward. As for V, i see the show probably be back for a limited 13-15 episode next season.</p>
<p>The best solution for FF will be a much shorter season like LOST. A season with 17 episodes will suffice</p>
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		<title>By: Carol</title>
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		<dc:creator>Carol</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Nov 2009 04:21:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>V&#039;s no better off now than FlashForward was after airing 4 episodes. I doubt a decision will be made on that show until after it&#039;s aired in the spring. Only then can it be determined if it will stablize or continue to bleed viewers. Both shows are serials and not procedurals so it&#039;s extremely hard in my opinion to get new viewers at this point thus hard to improve their ratings.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>V&#8217;s no better off now than FlashForward was after airing 4 episodes. I doubt a decision will be made on that show until after it&#8217;s aired in the spring. Only then can it be determined if it will stablize or continue to bleed viewers. Both shows are serials and not procedurals so it&#8217;s extremely hard in my opinion to get new viewers at this point thus hard to improve their ratings.</p>
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		<title>By: Darren</title>
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		<dc:creator>Darren</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Nov 2009 03:48:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>bring back V!
DO we survive or will we die!!!!!!!!!!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>bring back V!<br />
DO we survive or will we die!!!!!!!!!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: S. Smith</title>
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		<dc:creator>S. Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Nov 2009 02:58:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I gave Flash Forward a chance but quickly felt like Lost-2 since we had no idea what the hell was going on and nothing developed very quickly. Frankly, the cast/characters didn&#039;t hold my interest either. I LOVE The Middle. I was never a Patricia Heaton fan before, didn&#039;t care for &quot;Raymond,&quot; but I think she&#039;s perfect for The Middle Mom. The cast has melded well, the supporting cast is quite good too, and I wish it well for the long haul. Crossing my fingers Castle is renewed too!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I gave Flash Forward a chance but quickly felt like Lost-2 since we had no idea what the hell was going on and nothing developed very quickly. Frankly, the cast/characters didn&#8217;t hold my interest either. I LOVE The Middle. I was never a Patricia Heaton fan before, didn&#8217;t care for &#8220;Raymond,&#8221; but I think she&#8217;s perfect for The Middle Mom. The cast has melded well, the supporting cast is quite good too, and I wish it well for the long haul. Crossing my fingers Castle is renewed too!</p>
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		<title>By: Gleebo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gleebo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Nov 2009 23:27:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Im not sure why people find Flash Forward so difficult to follow.  Its pretty simple... What caused the FF? Why didn&#039;t some people get the FF? and Will a FF happen again?

That being said the show has been somewhat of a disappointment to me.  It had enough hype and support from ABC to become the next Lost but the material by the writers and actors weren&#039;t even in the same league as JJ Abrams, Matthew Fox, and company during the early days of Lost. When someone died on FF(wont spoil incase you havent all caught up) I said &quot;oh my god they killed off a main character already!&quot; and then thought back to previous episodes if I could remember anything about that character.  I could not. The character development for Lost is almost as good as the mystery of the island without severely taking viewers away from the castaways situationm. FF has an excellent premise, but so far the execution has been half assed at best. Couple that with unlikeable cardboard characters and you have a show that more and more people will stop watching each episode.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Im not sure why people find Flash Forward so difficult to follow.  Its pretty simple&#8230; What caused the FF? Why didn&#8217;t some people get the FF? and Will a FF happen again?</p>
<p>That being said the show has been somewhat of a disappointment to me.  It had enough hype and support from ABC to become the next Lost but the material by the writers and actors weren&#8217;t even in the same league as JJ Abrams, Matthew Fox, and company during the early days of Lost. When someone died on FF(wont spoil incase you havent all caught up) I said &#8220;oh my god they killed off a main character already!&#8221; and then thought back to previous episodes if I could remember anything about that character.  I could not. The character development for Lost is almost as good as the mystery of the island without severely taking viewers away from the castaways situationm. FF has an excellent premise, but so far the execution has been half assed at best. Couple that with unlikeable cardboard characters and you have a show that more and more people will stop watching each episode.</p>
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		<title>By: Prince Dunn</title>
		<link>http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2009/11/27/quasi-hits-v-flashforward-cougar-town-and-the-middle-which-wont-make-it-to-next-fall/34721/comment-page-5/#comment-167330</link>
		<dc:creator>Prince Dunn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Nov 2009 20:01:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think V should be canceled. Boring show. Flash Forward is hard to follow. I like Middle and it is a good comedy for 30 minutes. I didn&#039;t like cougar Town and stopped watching it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think V should be canceled. Boring show. Flash Forward is hard to follow. I like Middle and it is a good comedy for 30 minutes. I didn&#8217;t like cougar Town and stopped watching it.</p>
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		<title>By: mark wood</title>
		<link>http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2009/11/27/quasi-hits-v-flashforward-cougar-town-and-the-middle-which-wont-make-it-to-next-fall/34721/comment-page-4/#comment-167324</link>
		<dc:creator>mark wood</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Nov 2009 19:20:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>See I think V&#039;s plot is moving way to fast, I think it and the character&#039;s growth should be slower (as character growth in real life isn&#039;t quick usually).

I actually think in many ways FlashForwards pace is better, but where I think they have failed in Flashforward is that I don&#039;t see the universe really feeling like something that huge did happen.  Not enough of people really wigging out, not enough of an active government, ect.  But the pace of what has been discovered that feels very real.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>See I think V&#8217;s plot is moving way to fast, I think it and the character&#8217;s growth should be slower (as character growth in real life isn&#8217;t quick usually).</p>
<p>I actually think in many ways FlashForwards pace is better, but where I think they have failed in Flashforward is that I don&#8217;t see the universe really feeling like something that huge did happen.  Not enough of people really wigging out, not enough of an active government, ect.  But the pace of what has been discovered that feels very real.</p>
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		<title>By: Holly</title>
		<link>http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2009/11/27/quasi-hits-v-flashforward-cougar-town-and-the-middle-which-wont-make-it-to-next-fall/34721/comment-page-4/#comment-167298</link>
		<dc:creator>Holly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Nov 2009 16:18:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think FF needs a turn around to survive. The ratings haven&#039;t stopped dropping yet and the buzz has turned rather negative. You might get people to stay until the FF day, but it seems like they&#039;d need something big to convince people to come back next season.

V is far too early to tell. I think it looks shaky, but it remains to be seen whether people will come back after the hiatus.

Cougar Town is doing well in the ratings (granted, partially due to the lead-in). It&#039;s also an ABC production, and we know how they love to renew their own comedies regardless of the ratings (e.g. According to Jim, Better off Ted, Scrubs...). I see this coming back unless ABC decides to give up the comedy block.

The Middle depends on development. Its ratings aren&#039;t very good, but it might stick around if development doesn&#039;t go well for next season.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think FF needs a turn around to survive. The ratings haven&#8217;t stopped dropping yet and the buzz has turned rather negative. You might get people to stay until the FF day, but it seems like they&#8217;d need something big to convince people to come back next season.</p>
<p>V is far too early to tell. I think it looks shaky, but it remains to be seen whether people will come back after the hiatus.</p>
<p>Cougar Town is doing well in the ratings (granted, partially due to the lead-in). It&#8217;s also an ABC production, and we know how they love to renew their own comedies regardless of the ratings (e.g. According to Jim, Better off Ted, Scrubs&#8230;). I see this coming back unless ABC decides to give up the comedy block.</p>
<p>The Middle depends on development. Its ratings aren&#8217;t very good, but it might stick around if development doesn&#8217;t go well for next season.</p>
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		<title>By: Johnny</title>
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		<dc:creator>Johnny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Nov 2009 16:13:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I hate to see a good idea handled so poorly, which is the case with FF.  The story had tons of potential but it was handled as if it were just another night time soap opera.  It had all the elements of a big hit: a fresh concept, a rich, complex storyline with literally a million options, plenty of suspense, action and drama.  FF had it all.  The people in charge of this one really dropped the ball.  If handled properly, this show could&#039;ve been huge for the network.  As it stands now, it will probably end up on the rubbish heap after season one.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hate to see a good idea handled so poorly, which is the case with FF.  The story had tons of potential but it was handled as if it were just another night time soap opera.  It had all the elements of a big hit: a fresh concept, a rich, complex storyline with literally a million options, plenty of suspense, action and drama.  FF had it all.  The people in charge of this one really dropped the ball.  If handled properly, this show could&#8217;ve been huge for the network.  As it stands now, it will probably end up on the rubbish heap after season one.</p>
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		<title>By: Alex</title>
		<link>http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2009/11/27/quasi-hits-v-flashforward-cougar-town-and-the-middle-which-wont-make-it-to-next-fall/34721/comment-page-4/#comment-167285</link>
		<dc:creator>Alex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Nov 2009 13:27:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tom with its current numbers I can&#039;t see Cougar Town getting anything other than a full season pick-up next year. Unless of course the new midseason comedy and one of the two returning midseason comedies manages to take off and ABC has a strong comedy development slate for next season. However I think the chances of all that happening are slim to say the least.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tom with its current numbers I can&#8217;t see Cougar Town getting anything other than a full season pick-up next year. Unless of course the new midseason comedy and one of the two returning midseason comedies manages to take off and ABC has a strong comedy development slate for next season. However I think the chances of all that happening are slim to say the least.</p>
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		<title>By: Martine</title>
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		<dc:creator>Martine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Nov 2009 12:28:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think V is fine as it is. I also think it will do fine. Its ratings have never been bad. The only thing it couldn&#039;t do is live up to its premiere, and really, that is practically impossible for some shows. The truth is, this place is usually wrong, for whatever reason.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think V is fine as it is. I also think it will do fine. Its ratings have never been bad. The only thing it couldn&#8217;t do is live up to its premiere, and really, that is practically impossible for some shows. The truth is, this place is usually wrong, for whatever reason.</p>
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		<title>By: Parenthood</title>
		<link>http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2009/11/27/quasi-hits-v-flashforward-cougar-town-and-the-middle-which-wont-make-it-to-next-fall/34721/comment-page-4/#comment-167276</link>
		<dc:creator>Parenthood</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Nov 2009 11:17:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, except that they are giving V over to Scott Rosenbaum. So, if he adds humor, I think it will help. He wants the pace of the character development to move along quicker. That&#039;s what he meant by fast paced. That&#039;s not the same thing as having people run around every episode.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, except that they are giving V over to Scott Rosenbaum. So, if he adds humor, I think it will help. He wants the pace of the character development to move along quicker. That&#8217;s what he meant by fast paced. That&#8217;s not the same thing as having people run around every episode.</p>
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		<title>By: mark wood</title>
		<link>http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2009/11/27/quasi-hits-v-flashforward-cougar-town-and-the-middle-which-wont-make-it-to-next-fall/34721/comment-page-4/#comment-167258</link>
		<dc:creator>mark wood</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Nov 2009 06:25:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What is interesting is that by episode 4 V and Flashforward were at the same point, yet V dropped far, far more.  I am far more worried about V then Flash Forward based off of that info.  Both also went through changes in head writers (usually not a good sign).

Of course I like (that don&#039;t love) both shows.  But personally I think V is moving way, way to quick for something that is designed as a series and not a mini series.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What is interesting is that by episode 4 V and Flashforward were at the same point, yet V dropped far, far more.  I am far more worried about V then Flash Forward based off of that info.  Both also went through changes in head writers (usually not a good sign).</p>
<p>Of course I like (that don&#8217;t love) both shows.  But personally I think V is moving way, way to quick for something that is designed as a series and not a mini series.</p>
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		<title>By: Tom</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Nov 2009 05:57:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Flashforward, barring a miraculous turnaround, is dead. 

V.. depends on scheduling. That 3.1 it was getting was all the weak scripted competition in the hour (NCIS for procedural types, and that&#039;s it). Also nostalgia will have worn off. Highly doubtful to come back.

The Middle... also depends on scheduling. I&#039;ve been saying for months it gets paired with Dancing, which should artificially inflate ratings to the point where it gets another season. Any other timeslot, though, and the odds drop dramatically.

Cougar Town gets a 13 episode second season, mostly because they don&#039;t want to cancel both Bill Lawrence shows at once. Unless a pilot of his gets picked up, in which case it is toast.

-
So yeah, too many external factors (scheduling, pilot pickups, producer relationships) to state conclusively at this point.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Flashforward, barring a miraculous turnaround, is dead. </p>
<p>V.. depends on scheduling. That 3.1 it was getting was all the weak scripted competition in the hour (NCIS for procedural types, and that&#8217;s it). Also nostalgia will have worn off. Highly doubtful to come back.</p>
<p>The Middle&#8230; also depends on scheduling. I&#8217;ve been saying for months it gets paired with Dancing, which should artificially inflate ratings to the point where it gets another season. Any other timeslot, though, and the odds drop dramatically.</p>
<p>Cougar Town gets a 13 episode second season, mostly because they don&#8217;t want to cancel both Bill Lawrence shows at once. Unless a pilot of his gets picked up, in which case it is toast.</p>
<p>-<br />
So yeah, too many external factors (scheduling, pilot pickups, producer relationships) to state conclusively at this point.</p>
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		<title>By: Larryville Slim</title>
		<link>http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2009/11/27/quasi-hits-v-flashforward-cougar-town-and-the-middle-which-wont-make-it-to-next-fall/34721/comment-page-4/#comment-167215</link>
		<dc:creator>Larryville Slim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Nov 2009 01:00:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m hunkering down with college football on a lovely Saturday afternoon here in Georgia and I&#039;ve lost count of all of the Flash Forward promos on ABC. They&#039;re PUSHING it, big time. Saw a couple other ads, for Desperate Housewives, for example, but virtually all of the promos are for FF.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m hunkering down with college football on a lovely Saturday afternoon here in Georgia and I&#8217;ve lost count of all of the Flash Forward promos on ABC. They&#8217;re PUSHING it, big time. Saw a couple other ads, for Desperate Housewives, for example, but virtually all of the promos are for FF.</p>
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		<title>By: Alex</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Nov 2009 00:17:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>vsaint I think you agree with me not disagree, as I said I&#039;ve seen nothing that suggests ABC Studios is making enough internationally to underwrite the loses ABC is making from airing the show or discount the license for a second season.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>vsaint I think you agree with me not disagree, as I said I&#8217;ve seen nothing that suggests ABC Studios is making enough internationally to underwrite the loses ABC is making from airing the show or discount the license for a second season.</p>
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		<title>By: vsaint</title>
		<link>http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2009/11/27/quasi-hits-v-flashforward-cougar-town-and-the-middle-which-wont-make-it-to-next-fall/34721/comment-page-4/#comment-167208</link>
		<dc:creator>vsaint</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Nov 2009 23:48:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I disagree Alex. 
I&#039;m from Canada, and Flashforward pilot didn&#039;t do that well in the ratings. I don&#039;t have the demo #&#039;s only the top 30 overall #&#039;s, and Flashforward has not cracked it once. 
Where as V has #10 week 1 and in 20&#039;s for week 2,3.
It got sold as the next LOST, so countries jumped on board paying high fees, but ratings from coutries i&#039;ve seen have fallen just as sharply as they are in the US.
So i doubt countries will be lining up to pay ABC much for the show next year.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I disagree Alex.<br />
I&#8217;m from Canada, and Flashforward pilot didn&#8217;t do that well in the ratings. I don&#8217;t have the demo #&#8217;s only the top 30 overall #&#8217;s, and Flashforward has not cracked it once.<br />
Where as V has #10 week 1 and in 20&#8242;s for week 2,3.<br />
It got sold as the next LOST, so countries jumped on board paying high fees, but ratings from coutries i&#8217;ve seen have fallen just as sharply as they are in the US.<br />
So i doubt countries will be lining up to pay ABC much for the show next year.</p>
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		<title>By: vsaint</title>
		<link>http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2009/11/27/quasi-hits-v-flashforward-cougar-town-and-the-middle-which-wont-make-it-to-next-fall/34721/comment-page-4/#comment-167206</link>
		<dc:creator>vsaint</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Nov 2009 23:38:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I like what the new showrunner is saying about making it more fun.
But more fast pace. There are already so many holes in the storyline, now they want to move it along faster so we can&#039;t catch the flawed writing, stories.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like what the new showrunner is saying about making it more fun.<br />
But more fast pace. There are already so many holes in the storyline, now they want to move it along faster so we can&#8217;t catch the flawed writing, stories.</p>
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		<title>By: Alex</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Nov 2009 22:31:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>FlashForward&#039;s popularity overseas is only important if like NBCU does with Heroes, ABC Studios are making enough from the overseas licenses and projected DVD sales (domestic and international) to underwrite the loses it will now be making for ABC and to reduce the license next year to make it a viable show for ABC to air. At this point nothing I&#039;ve seen suggests that FlashForward is even close to that point.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>FlashForward&#8217;s popularity overseas is only important if like NBCU does with Heroes, ABC Studios are making enough from the overseas licenses and projected DVD sales (domestic and international) to underwrite the loses it will now be making for ABC and to reduce the license next year to make it a viable show for ABC to air. At this point nothing I&#8217;ve seen suggests that FlashForward is even close to that point.</p>
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		<title>By: gavin</title>
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		<dc:creator>gavin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Nov 2009 20:59:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think FF could be saved by its overseas customers. A lot of foreign stations have picked it up. 

FF has a limited storyline. I did hear that if a 2nd season is made that there could be another Flash Forward event. 

I think networks should cut out the continue series and keep them to one series. People are fed up of stories which could go on for 5 years just to see an end. Self contained episodes are the way forward!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think FF could be saved by its overseas customers. A lot of foreign stations have picked it up. </p>
<p>FF has a limited storyline. I did hear that if a 2nd season is made that there could be another Flash Forward event. </p>
<p>I think networks should cut out the continue series and keep them to one series. People are fed up of stories which could go on for 5 years just to see an end. Self contained episodes are the way forward!</p>
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		<title>By: Anna</title>
		<link>http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2009/11/27/quasi-hits-v-flashforward-cougar-town-and-the-middle-which-wont-make-it-to-next-fall/34721/comment-page-4/#comment-167165</link>
		<dc:creator>Anna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Nov 2009 19:52:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I honestlty think they are all mediocre shows. I kinda hope none make it haha.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I honestlty think they are all mediocre shows. I kinda hope none make it haha.</p>
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		<title>By: Lucky</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lucky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Nov 2009 19:31:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think The Middle and Cougar Town will be back. If ABC&#039;s new Matthew Perry pilot takes off, it would be hard to resist pairing those two shows up. Along with Modern Family, those are ABC&#039;s next best shots at syndication gold. I think ABC has invested too much in V and FF. They will give them a big promotional push for episodes airing after the Olympics. I think there will be a good chance for at least one of them to survive, and V would be it. However, if audience interest increases as the FF date approaches, maybe they would have a shot. Either way, 3 out of 4 isn&#039;t bad, and Modern Family will surely return as well. It&#039;s a pretty good return rate, even with the other drama duds from this season.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think The Middle and Cougar Town will be back. If ABC&#8217;s new Matthew Perry pilot takes off, it would be hard to resist pairing those two shows up. Along with Modern Family, those are ABC&#8217;s next best shots at syndication gold. I think ABC has invested too much in V and FF. They will give them a big promotional push for episodes airing after the Olympics. I think there will be a good chance for at least one of them to survive, and V would be it. However, if audience interest increases as the FF date approaches, maybe they would have a shot. Either way, 3 out of 4 isn&#8217;t bad, and Modern Family will surely return as well. It&#8217;s a pretty good return rate, even with the other drama duds from this season.</p>
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		<title>By: DW</title>
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		<dc:creator>DW</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Nov 2009 19:23:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bruce, how exactly is Modern Family designed to piss off Middle America? Because it (gasp!) has gay characters in it? It&#039;s one of the most heartfelt, family friendly shows on television.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bruce, how exactly is Modern Family designed to piss off Middle America? Because it (gasp!) has gay characters in it? It&#8217;s one of the most heartfelt, family friendly shows on television.</p>
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		<title>By: cress</title>
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		<dc:creator>cress</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Nov 2009 19:11:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kill Joseph Fiennes&#039; character in FlashForward and people may actually start watching it again.  He is HORRIBLE.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kill Joseph Fiennes&#8217; character in FlashForward and people may actually start watching it again.  He is HORRIBLE.</p>
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		<title>By: bruce stravinsky</title>
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		<dc:creator>bruce stravinsky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Nov 2009 18:06:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>V is another one of the blessing &#039;known concept&#039; ideas which should survive at least long enough to get to the next cliff-hanger.

FlashForward is actually a NEW idea in plots. The possibilities are almost endless if the writers are trapped by idiot network execs or just plain &#039;tested&#039; habits.

&#039;Modern Family&#039; seems mostly like an attempt to try to piss off mid-American in an event to get buzz on the West Coast and Metro markets. Like Adam Lambert, it won&#039;t last.  Nothing too much to love about this since it would still contain so much which is either offense or just obnoxious.

&#039;Cougar Town&#039;? Seriously?  I&#039;m think they are so desperate to capture the advertising demo on this that they are ignoring the obvious lack of quality programming.  And who knows?  Maybe the demo alone with be enough like it was with Sex &amp; The City (which completely sucked from a creative standpoint).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>V is another one of the blessing &#8216;known concept&#8217; ideas which should survive at least long enough to get to the next cliff-hanger.</p>
<p>FlashForward is actually a NEW idea in plots. The possibilities are almost endless if the writers are trapped by idiot network execs or just plain &#8216;tested&#8217; habits.</p>
<p>&#8216;Modern Family&#8217; seems mostly like an attempt to try to piss off mid-American in an event to get buzz on the West Coast and Metro markets. Like Adam Lambert, it won&#8217;t last.  Nothing too much to love about this since it would still contain so much which is either offense or just obnoxious.</p>
<p>&#8216;Cougar Town&#8217;? Seriously?  I&#8217;m think they are so desperate to capture the advertising demo on this that they are ignoring the obvious lack of quality programming.  And who knows?  Maybe the demo alone with be enough like it was with Sex &amp; The City (which completely sucked from a creative standpoint).</p>
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		<title>By: Smallville</title>
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		<dc:creator>Smallville</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Nov 2009 17:54:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I hope that Flash Forward and V come back for a second season, Cougar town would be my third choice and I think The Middle is destined to go to hell (not the cast or crew, etc. just the show)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hope that Flash Forward and V come back for a second season, Cougar town would be my third choice and I think The Middle is destined to go to hell (not the cast or crew, etc. just the show)</p>
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		<title>By: Parenthood</title>
		<link>http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2009/11/27/quasi-hits-v-flashforward-cougar-town-and-the-middle-which-wont-make-it-to-next-fall/34721/comment-page-3/#comment-167117</link>
		<dc:creator>Parenthood</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Nov 2009 17:47:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>RG V is going after Lost.</description>
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		<title>By: R.G</title>
		<link>http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2009/11/27/quasi-hits-v-flashforward-cougar-town-and-the-middle-which-wont-make-it-to-next-fall/34721/comment-page-3/#comment-167114</link>
		<dc:creator>R.G</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Nov 2009 17:27:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cougar Town will survive, partly because it&#039;s practically doing well with the same people who watch GA and DH (two of ABC&#039;s powerhouse shows), and it has the same amount of viewers as Modern Family and Scrubs on average. The only negative side is just like &#039;Hank&#039; it&#039;s being blasted by the critics. 

FlashForward will be the same, despite the falling ratings. Perhaps ABC will move this show to a different time (perhaps right after Desperate Housewives or right after V). I&#039;ve also heard it&#039;s doing well internationally than it is here in America. So that&#039;s something ABC SHOULD (if they don&#039;t) think about. 

V can go either way. I just think V has been damaged partly because of the alleged anti-Obama allegory.  

The Middle is practically toast, plus it&#039;s not that good of a show, and it&#039;s being blasted by the critics.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cougar Town will survive, partly because it&#8217;s practically doing well with the same people who watch GA and DH (two of ABC&#8217;s powerhouse shows), and it has the same amount of viewers as Modern Family and Scrubs on average. The only negative side is just like &#8216;Hank&#8217; it&#8217;s being blasted by the critics. </p>
<p>FlashForward will be the same, despite the falling ratings. Perhaps ABC will move this show to a different time (perhaps right after Desperate Housewives or right after V). I&#8217;ve also heard it&#8217;s doing well internationally than it is here in America. So that&#8217;s something ABC SHOULD (if they don&#8217;t) think about. </p>
<p>V can go either way. I just think V has been damaged partly because of the alleged anti-Obama allegory.  </p>
<p>The Middle is practically toast, plus it&#8217;s not that good of a show, and it&#8217;s being blasted by the critics.</p>
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		<title>By: Alex</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Nov 2009 17:13:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>On the subject of FlashForward&#039;s creative ability to exist beyond one season, the producers have been talking recently about having a multi-year plan for the show so assuming they&#039;re not just blowing smoke the option is obviously there. How effective more seasons would be is anyone&#039;s guess but it is relatively easy to see multiple ways in which the show continues for more than one season. Another flash forward event is the obvious route although I suspect with the pace the show currently has they&#039;d get a seasons worth of value out of the aftermath of people &#039;changing the future&#039; when their flash forwards don&#039;t come true.

Of course what the creative future of the show is would also rest on how they intend to explain the flash forwards. If its a big global conspiracy at the heart of the flash forwards then its relatively easy to continue the show without more flash forwards. Personally I suspect that they&#039;d continue by using another flash forward, only not on a global scale. It&#039;ll only effect a small group of people and they&#039;d all see a different date. That would allow them to layer in multiple story arcs over multiple time lines alongside the bigger question of &#039;why only these people...&#039;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On the subject of FlashForward&#8217;s creative ability to exist beyond one season, the producers have been talking recently about having a multi-year plan for the show so assuming they&#8217;re not just blowing smoke the option is obviously there. How effective more seasons would be is anyone&#8217;s guess but it is relatively easy to see multiple ways in which the show continues for more than one season. Another flash forward event is the obvious route although I suspect with the pace the show currently has they&#8217;d get a seasons worth of value out of the aftermath of people &#8216;changing the future&#8217; when their flash forwards don&#8217;t come true.</p>
<p>Of course what the creative future of the show is would also rest on how they intend to explain the flash forwards. If its a big global conspiracy at the heart of the flash forwards then its relatively easy to continue the show without more flash forwards. Personally I suspect that they&#8217;d continue by using another flash forward, only not on a global scale. It&#8217;ll only effect a small group of people and they&#8217;d all see a different date. That would allow them to layer in multiple story arcs over multiple time lines alongside the bigger question of &#8216;why only these people&#8230;&#8217;</p>
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		<title>By: Julia</title>
		<link>http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2009/11/27/quasi-hits-v-flashforward-cougar-town-and-the-middle-which-wont-make-it-to-next-fall/34721/comment-page-3/#comment-167105</link>
		<dc:creator>Julia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Nov 2009 16:21:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Daniel, you must not have watched the past two seasons of Scrubs, then.</description>
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		<title>By: daniel patrick</title>
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		<dc:creator>daniel patrick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Nov 2009 16:08:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i hoping cougar town would be a lot better, first time bill lawrence has ever let me down</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i hoping cougar town would be a lot better, first time bill lawrence has ever let me down</p>
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		<title>By: Dave</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Nov 2009 15:42:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Tar: thanks for the update on Cougar Town. I&#039;m pleased that Courteney Cox has sorted everything out. She was always my favourite of the Friends cast. :)

@Alex: I can see your point but I&#039;m sure that ABC will hype the Lisa Kudrow debut episode of Cougar Town enormously as a mini Friends reunion (of sorts). And lord alone knows ABC what they&#039;d do if Jennifer Aniston ever got a guest role. All 3 Friends girls back together again on the same show? Ratings bonanza.

I&#039;m sure Cougar Town will get a full second season. Like I said above, I&#039;d be shocked if it didn&#039;t.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Tar: thanks for the update on Cougar Town. I&#8217;m pleased that Courteney Cox has sorted everything out. She was always my favourite of the Friends cast. <img src='http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>@Alex: I can see your point but I&#8217;m sure that ABC will hype the Lisa Kudrow debut episode of Cougar Town enormously as a mini Friends reunion (of sorts). And lord alone knows ABC what they&#8217;d do if Jennifer Aniston ever got a guest role. All 3 Friends girls back together again on the same show? Ratings bonanza.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m sure Cougar Town will get a full second season. Like I said above, I&#8217;d be shocked if it didn&#8217;t.</p>
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		<title>By: klown</title>
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		<dc:creator>klown</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Nov 2009 15:28:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>“How could they write a second season of “FlashForward” when the flashforward has already come and gone.”

By having another one. They&#039;ll probably figure out the cause, try to stop it before another happens, fail, and there&#039;s season 2. Doc Jensen of EW had the theory that for people in the present to essentially have their minds displaced several months ahead means that everyones mind on April 29th was also displaced already to another future date. His theories are always far out and rarely come true but regardless, it&#039;s easy to assume that the show will continue to have flash forwards as opposed to just having one and spending the rest of the series (if there is a rest) only focused on the one that already at that point would have happened.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>“How could they write a second season of “FlashForward” when the flashforward has already come and gone.”</p>
<p>By having another one. They&#8217;ll probably figure out the cause, try to stop it before another happens, fail, and there&#8217;s season 2. Doc Jensen of EW had the theory that for people in the present to essentially have their minds displaced several months ahead means that everyones mind on April 29th was also displaced already to another future date. His theories are always far out and rarely come true but regardless, it&#8217;s easy to assume that the show will continue to have flash forwards as opposed to just having one and spending the rest of the series (if there is a rest) only focused on the one that already at that point would have happened.</p>
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		<title>By: Julia</title>
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		<dc:creator>Julia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Nov 2009 15:11:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tar, both productions are still on Thanksgiving break and will start up again on Monday. Both of them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tar, both productions are still on Thanksgiving break and will start up again on Monday. Both of them.</p>
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		<title>By: Kermonk</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kermonk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Nov 2009 14:58:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I dislike Cougar Town solely based on the title *g*</description>
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		<title>By: Anthony</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anthony</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Nov 2009 14:44:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Scott Rosenbaum brings some hope to upcoming V episodes. I like his thought process. Flash Forward is a decent show at best but I don&#039;t see it lasting more then 1 season. Modern Family is awesome. I love all the characters especially Sofia for obvious reasons. Man that girl is smoking hot.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Scott Rosenbaum brings some hope to upcoming V episodes. I like his thought process. Flash Forward is a decent show at best but I don&#8217;t see it lasting more then 1 season. Modern Family is awesome. I love all the characters especially Sofia for obvious reasons. Man that girl is smoking hot.</p>
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		<title>By: Donald</title>
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		<dc:creator>Donald</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Nov 2009 14:19:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ABC shoots itself in the foot by promising V for 13 episodes, then withdrawing their end of the bargain.  Ratings do not reflect the fact that viewers of SciFi are pretty picky in certain specific ways. Evidence of BOTH content AND commitment from the network to even attract initial attention from this genre of viewers.

LOST took a while to roll into acceptance.  Most importantly, this class of viewers does not relish being enticed, cliff-hung, and then dropped in a vacuum. Getting involved, to them, takes time and attention, and most viewers of this class do not have unlimited amounts of either to spare. 

The next time ABC comes up with an extensively promoted and apparently cool offer in the Sci-Fi genre, many won&#039;t want to risk being toyed with again.  There is lots of competition. Dumb move by ABC.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ABC shoots itself in the foot by promising V for 13 episodes, then withdrawing their end of the bargain.  Ratings do not reflect the fact that viewers of SciFi are pretty picky in certain specific ways. Evidence of BOTH content AND commitment from the network to even attract initial attention from this genre of viewers.</p>
<p>LOST took a while to roll into acceptance.  Most importantly, this class of viewers does not relish being enticed, cliff-hung, and then dropped in a vacuum. Getting involved, to them, takes time and attention, and most viewers of this class do not have unlimited amounts of either to spare. </p>
<p>The next time ABC comes up with an extensively promoted and apparently cool offer in the Sci-Fi genre, many won&#8217;t want to risk being toyed with again.  There is lots of competition. Dumb move by ABC.</p>
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		<title>By: Alex</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Nov 2009 14:06:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Unless Goyer can produce some kind of magical turn around during the back nine of FlashForward there&#039;s no way ABC brings that back next year at this point they should just move it behind Lost, its already dead soi giving it the &#039;death slot&#039; can&#039;t really hurt it much more and maybe it&#039;ll buck the trend and actually catch on out of Lost...

I&#039;d be surprised if V was back next year. The numbers are good enough right now to bring it back but I just don&#039;t think ABC wants to. Of course if there midseason shows all bomb then they might be left with little choice to bring it back, I&#039;m not sure they can get away with two seasons of near complete axes of new dramas. 

The Middle&#039;s fate will likely rest on how the midseason comedies shape up, that would be new look Scrubs, Better off Ted and the new comedy and what the comedy development slate looks like for next season. If the three midseason shows fail to catch on and ABC don&#039;t have a couple of strong comedies in development The Middle will be safe for at least a small season two order next year.

Cougar Town is safe for now unless the bottom falls out during the back nine, which given the (lack of) strength and depth in episodes so far isn&#039;t impossible. However the Modern Family lead-in should keep it afloat for now whether it can stay afloat without Family is another issue entirely.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Unless Goyer can produce some kind of magical turn around during the back nine of FlashForward there&#8217;s no way ABC brings that back next year at this point they should just move it behind Lost, its already dead soi giving it the &#8216;death slot&#8217; can&#8217;t really hurt it much more and maybe it&#8217;ll buck the trend and actually catch on out of Lost&#8230;</p>
<p>I&#8217;d be surprised if V was back next year. The numbers are good enough right now to bring it back but I just don&#8217;t think ABC wants to. Of course if there midseason shows all bomb then they might be left with little choice to bring it back, I&#8217;m not sure they can get away with two seasons of near complete axes of new dramas. </p>
<p>The Middle&#8217;s fate will likely rest on how the midseason comedies shape up, that would be new look Scrubs, Better off Ted and the new comedy and what the comedy development slate looks like for next season. If the three midseason shows fail to catch on and ABC don&#8217;t have a couple of strong comedies in development The Middle will be safe for at least a small season two order next year.</p>
<p>Cougar Town is safe for now unless the bottom falls out during the back nine, which given the (lack of) strength and depth in episodes so far isn&#8217;t impossible. However the Modern Family lead-in should keep it afloat for now whether it can stay afloat without Family is another issue entirely.</p>
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		<title>By: Patrice</title>
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		<dc:creator>Patrice</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Nov 2009 13:52:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I love &quot;The Middle&quot; and gets better and better.
As far as the person who said they watched the first show and stopped--that was the least funny show...Since then its been great.
Modern family I only watched once and did not think it funny at all.
But I will give it another chance.
ABC better keep &quot;The Middle&quot; its their best show.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love &#8220;The Middle&#8221; and gets better and better.<br />
As far as the person who said they watched the first show and stopped&#8211;that was the least funny show&#8230;Since then its been great.<br />
Modern family I only watched once and did not think it funny at all.<br />
But I will give it another chance.<br />
ABC better keep &#8220;The Middle&#8221; its their best show.</p>
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		<title>By: Tar</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Nov 2009 12:52:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dave -Cougar Town is already back in production-family problems sorted  -FF is the one still on production shutdown</description>
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