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	<title>Comments on: TV Ratings: ABC&#039;s 20/20 tops night; Ugly Betty ratings not pretty</title>
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		<title>By: ted</title>
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		<dc:creator>ted</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Dec 2009 01:13:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hollywood reporter says Betty is moving to wednesdays</description>
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		<title>By: Edwie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Edwie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Dec 2009 22:37:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Harold, you are absolutely right. Ugly Betty is a remake of popular Colombian soap &quot;Betty la Fea&quot;. In Latin America, soaps are not like U.S. soups which last 60 years... nor they are series with &quot;seasons&quot;.

Betty La Fea was a daily show, monday to Friday, which lasted little less than a year. It was popular because of the phenomenon, ugly girl making it to the fashion biz, then the transformation, then the love for the boss, etc. It was a HIT!

I watched Ugly Betty and the 1st season was amazing, but what happened is that viewers simply got bored. 4 years and Betty is still ugly. No change, no closure, the same storylines over and over. Betty la Fea was never meant to last 1 year, let alone 4. There&#039;s so much you can do with that storyline, and that is why most of the audience already left.

Have Betty get a complete makeover and declare her love for Daniel, that should bring 0.8 more viewers back LOL and then close this show!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Harold, you are absolutely right. Ugly Betty is a remake of popular Colombian soap &#8220;Betty la Fea&#8221;. In Latin America, soaps are not like U.S. soups which last 60 years&#8230; nor they are series with &#8220;seasons&#8221;.</p>
<p>Betty La Fea was a daily show, monday to Friday, which lasted little less than a year. It was popular because of the phenomenon, ugly girl making it to the fashion biz, then the transformation, then the love for the boss, etc. It was a HIT!</p>
<p>I watched Ugly Betty and the 1st season was amazing, but what happened is that viewers simply got bored. 4 years and Betty is still ugly. No change, no closure, the same storylines over and over. Betty la Fea was never meant to last 1 year, let alone 4. There&#8217;s so much you can do with that storyline, and that is why most of the audience already left.</p>
<p>Have Betty get a complete makeover and declare her love for Daniel, that should bring 0.8 more viewers back LOL and then close this show!</p>
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		<title>By: Is It Time to Cancel Those Leno Obituaries? &#124; Gossip : thypolls.com</title>
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		<dc:creator>Is It Time to Cancel Those Leno Obituaries? &#124; Gossip : thypolls.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Dec 2009 04:08:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] week, during Thanksgiving, Leno actually scored a milestone of sorts, certainly a dubious milestone, but a milestone nonetheless, as a rare Leno rerun earned higher [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] week, during Thanksgiving, Leno actually scored a milestone of sorts, certainly a dubious milestone, but a milestone nonetheless, as a rare Leno rerun earned higher [...]</p>
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		<title>By: whitneymuse</title>
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		<dc:creator>whitneymuse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Nov 2009 20:02:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Personally I never quite &quot;understood&quot; the Betty phenomenon; Tried, but it never worked for me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Personally I never quite &#8220;understood&#8221; the Betty phenomenon; Tried, but it never worked for me.</p>
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		<title>By: Moxy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Moxy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Nov 2009 17:35:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You can say &quot;It was a holiday weekend, what did you expect?&quot; all you want, but the fact remains that it was beaten by a REPEAT of JAY LENO. It was the exact same &quot;holiday weekend&quot; for him, too, people. Leno shouldn&#039;t be beating reruns much less new episodes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You can say &#8220;It was a holiday weekend, what did you expect?&#8221; all you want, but the fact remains that it was beaten by a REPEAT of JAY LENO. It was the exact same &#8220;holiday weekend&#8221; for him, too, people. Leno shouldn&#8217;t be beating reruns much less new episodes.</p>
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		<title>By: Dan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Nov 2009 16:15:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chuck Tranberg - Yeah but remember all of the other series on were either repeats or movies so they already expected not to do well. A new Betty episode coming in fourth to all of these reruns is not good, even for a friday. Airing after Supernanny didnt help much but its definitely the end of the road for the 4 year series.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chuck Tranberg &#8211; Yeah but remember all of the other series on were either repeats or movies so they already expected not to do well. A new Betty episode coming in fourth to all of these reruns is not good, even for a friday. Airing after Supernanny didnt help much but its definitely the end of the road for the 4 year series.</p>
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		<title>By: Dan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Nov 2009 16:10:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is likely how Betty would have done had ABC left it on Fridays when it premiered in the 2006-2007 season but they were lucky Betty got moved. I had originally thought that Betty may be saved but this confirms that along with Lost, Betty is doen after May. Once those two end the only definite dramas left for 2010-2011 are Desperate Housewives, Grey&#039;s Anatomy, Brothers &amp; Sisters, and Private Practice. Forgotten and Eastwick are gone while Flashforward, Castle and V could go either way. In terms of returning Id say in petrcent

Castle - 60%
V - 50%
FlashForward - 20%
The Forgotten - 5%

In contrast the comedies have a much better chance
Modern Family 100%
Cougar Town 75%
The Middle 50%</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is likely how Betty would have done had ABC left it on Fridays when it premiered in the 2006-2007 season but they were lucky Betty got moved. I had originally thought that Betty may be saved but this confirms that along with Lost, Betty is doen after May. Once those two end the only definite dramas left for 2010-2011 are Desperate Housewives, Grey&#8217;s Anatomy, Brothers &amp; Sisters, and Private Practice. Forgotten and Eastwick are gone while Flashforward, Castle and V could go either way. In terms of returning Id say in petrcent</p>
<p>Castle &#8211; 60%<br />
V &#8211; 50%<br />
FlashForward &#8211; 20%<br />
The Forgotten &#8211; 5%</p>
<p>In contrast the comedies have a much better chance<br />
Modern Family 100%<br />
Cougar Town 75%<br />
The Middle 50%</p>
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		<title>By: Chuck Tranberg</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chuck Tranberg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Nov 2009 15:04:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Friday is a weak night as it is and who would expect it to be any better on a holiday weekend?  None of these shows did well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Friday is a weak night as it is and who would expect it to be any better on a holiday weekend?  None of these shows did well.</p>
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		<title>By: Willie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Willie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Nov 2009 14:20:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>aww this is so sad. I have been watching Ugly Betty since day one and honestly the writers are delivering what us UB fans like. I hated that ABC moved UB to Friday night. I remember when UB and Greys Anatomy came on Thursdays they were a powerhouse. UB has more competition on Fridays. Don&#039;t cancel the show.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>aww this is so sad. I have been watching Ugly Betty since day one and honestly the writers are delivering what us UB fans like. I hated that ABC moved UB to Friday night. I remember when UB and Greys Anatomy came on Thursdays they were a powerhouse. UB has more competition on Fridays. Don&#8217;t cancel the show.</p>
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		<title>By: Aquat1c F1sh</title>
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		<dc:creator>Aquat1c F1sh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Nov 2009 12:42:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Betty is dead. :( Here&#039;s to hoping it at least gets to finish its run.

...Although to be honest, I&#039;m surprised it got a fourth season in the first place.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Betty is dead. <img src='http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':(' class='wp-smiley' />  Here&#8217;s to hoping it at least gets to finish its run.</p>
<p>&#8230;Although to be honest, I&#8217;m surprised it got a fourth season in the first place.</p>
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		<title>By: Carol</title>
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		<dc:creator>Carol</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Nov 2009 04:24:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Those are dreadful numbers for Ugly Betty. I haven&#039;t watched that show since its first year on the air. To me it started out great and then went downhill.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Those are dreadful numbers for Ugly Betty. I haven&#8217;t watched that show since its first year on the air. To me it started out great and then went downhill.</p>
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		<title>By: Bill Gorman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bill Gorman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Nov 2009 04:03:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>j, I think that was a good observation (by the live feed) about the 11 days of stable or increasing ratings for Leno, but &lt;a href=&quot;http://tvbythenumbers.com/2009/11/27/quasi-hits-v-flashforward-cougar-town-and-the-middle-which-wont-make-it-to-next-fall/34721&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;like a lot of posts I make&lt;/a&gt;, it&#039;s useful mainly as a discussion starter, I don&#039;t think that 11 day &quot;trend&quot; is conclusive of anything really.

However, we are about to enter a new period for the Jay Leno Show. One when it will be against repeat or special (often weak) broadcast competition night in and night out for an extended period of time. The ratings in this period will perhaps be instructive as to his potential future prospects.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>j, I think that was a good observation (by the live feed) about the 11 days of stable or increasing ratings for Leno, but <a href="http://tvbythenumbers.com/2009/11/27/quasi-hits-v-flashforward-cougar-town-and-the-middle-which-wont-make-it-to-next-fall/34721" rel="nofollow">like a lot of posts I make</a>, it&#8217;s useful mainly as a discussion starter, I don&#8217;t think that 11 day &#8220;trend&#8221; is conclusive of anything really.</p>
<p>However, we are about to enter a new period for the Jay Leno Show. One when it will be against repeat or special (often weak) broadcast competition night in and night out for an extended period of time. The ratings in this period will perhaps be instructive as to his potential future prospects.</p>
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		<title>By: j</title>
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		<dc:creator>j</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Nov 2009 03:56:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A few days old, and possibly of dubious accuracy, about Leno&#039;s recovery: http://www.thrfeed.com/2009/11/jay-leno-show-halts-ratings-slide.html?utm_source=feedburner&amp;utm_medium=feed&amp;utm_campaign=Feed%3A+live_feed+%28The+Hollywood+Reporter+-+The+Live+Feed%29

&quot;For the past 11 episodes in a row, Leno&#039;s program has either maintained or improved its adult demo rating compared to the previous week. Often, &quot;Leno Show&quot; has increased despite a declining lead-in as the holidays approach. And last week was Leno&#039;s most-watched since mid-October.

The shift might represent a turning point for the industry-polarizing series, or at least signal that the show has managed to quit shedding viewers.

Leno is either finding strength amid a weakened playing field, or is discovering his groove.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A few days old, and possibly of dubious accuracy, about Leno&#8217;s recovery: <a href="http://www.thrfeed.com/2009/11/jay-leno-show-halts-ratings-slide.html?utm_source=feedburner&#038;utm_medium=feed&#038;utm_campaign=Feed%3A+live_feed+%28The+Hollywood+Reporter+-+The+Live+Feed%29" rel="nofollow">http://www.thrfeed.com/2009/11/jay-leno-show-halts-ratings-slide.html?utm_source=feedburner&#038;utm_medium=feed&#038;utm_campaign=Feed%3A+live_feed+%28The+Hollywood+Reporter+-+The+Live+Feed%29</a></p>
<p>&#8220;For the past 11 episodes in a row, Leno&#8217;s program has either maintained or improved its adult demo rating compared to the previous week. Often, &#8220;Leno Show&#8221; has increased despite a declining lead-in as the holidays approach. And last week was Leno&#8217;s most-watched since mid-October.</p>
<p>The shift might represent a turning point for the industry-polarizing series, or at least signal that the show has managed to quit shedding viewers.</p>
<p>Leno is either finding strength amid a weakened playing field, or is discovering his groove.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Joe</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Nov 2009 01:49:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m not a UB fan whatsoever - just wanted to see what&#039;s going on with the discussion over here.

And I have to say...Keith does make one good point:  TVBTN has been good with predictions in the past, but not 100% perfect.  So, no need to have delusions of grandeur over here.  You guys are still human like the rest of us.

Or maybe Bill and Richard are from Pluto.  ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not a UB fan whatsoever &#8211; just wanted to see what&#8217;s going on with the discussion over here.</p>
<p>And I have to say&#8230;Keith does make one good point:  TVBTN has been good with predictions in the past, but not 100% perfect.  So, no need to have delusions of grandeur over here.  You guys are still human like the rest of us.</p>
<p>Or maybe Bill and Richard are from Pluto.  <img src='http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: richard less</title>
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		<dc:creator>richard less</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Nov 2009 00:53:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree that the rerun profits is why Ugly Betty is still on, but could there be other reasons?

Simply nothing else to put on? To keep Selma Hayek happy? Have a culturally diverse program on that appeals to Latin Americans?

Nah...It&#039;s all about the money in reruns. Even Disney is that basic.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree that the rerun profits is why Ugly Betty is still on, but could there be other reasons?</p>
<p>Simply nothing else to put on? To keep Selma Hayek happy? Have a culturally diverse program on that appeals to Latin Americans?</p>
<p>Nah&#8230;It&#8217;s all about the money in reruns. Even Disney is that basic.</p>
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		<title>By: Tdot</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tdot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Nov 2009 00:48:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tv show DVD sale stats are interesting
sure as he&#039;ll more interesting than cable news ratings</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tv show DVD sale stats are interesting<br />
sure as he&#8217;ll more interesting than cable news ratings</p>
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		<title>By: Dan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Nov 2009 22:54:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bye Bye Betty</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bye Bye Betty</p>
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		<title>By: Harold</title>
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		<dc:creator>Harold</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Nov 2009 22:36:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>tom says at November 28, 2009 at 11:07 am:

&quot;UB is one of the Most Original and Freshest Shows to come on tv in years.&quot;

Considering it&#039;s just a remake of a South American telenovela, that statement is hilarious. Congrats to you for defining &quot;most original&quot; with &quot;remake.&quot;

&quot;It just puzzles me the treatment that ABC has given it. its almost as if ABC wants the show to die.&quot;

Yes, it&#039;s a time-honored strategy to pursue poor ratings intentionally in attempt to cancel TV shows.

This is similar to the stock investor&#039;s time-honored strategy of purchasing the stock of a corporation that the investor does not like in the hope that the share price will go down (preferably to a few cents and be deregistered and traded on the pink sheets) and the corporation will go bankrupt.

All of this makes perfect sense.

To morons.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>tom says at November 28, 2009 at 11:07 am:</p>
<p>&#8220;UB is one of the Most Original and Freshest Shows to come on tv in years.&#8221;</p>
<p>Considering it&#8217;s just a remake of a South American telenovela, that statement is hilarious. Congrats to you for defining &#8220;most original&#8221; with &#8220;remake.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;It just puzzles me the treatment that ABC has given it. its almost as if ABC wants the show to die.&#8221;</p>
<p>Yes, it&#8217;s a time-honored strategy to pursue poor ratings intentionally in attempt to cancel TV shows.</p>
<p>This is similar to the stock investor&#8217;s time-honored strategy of purchasing the stock of a corporation that the investor does not like in the hope that the share price will go down (preferably to a few cents and be deregistered and traded on the pink sheets) and the corporation will go bankrupt.</p>
<p>All of this makes perfect sense.</p>
<p>To morons.</p>
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		<title>By: Igor</title>
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		<dc:creator>Igor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Nov 2009 18:22:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And i heard ABC is canceling every single show expscept Ugly Betty so they are basicly forcing people to watch it, they are that dedicated to the show.

By the way are there numbers for Legend of the Seekr 2 episode?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And i heard ABC is canceling every single show expscept Ugly Betty so they are basicly forcing people to watch it, they are that dedicated to the show.</p>
<p>By the way are there numbers for Legend of the Seekr 2 episode?</p>
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		<title>By: Tommy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tommy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Nov 2009 18:06:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>well Brad I guess that the news I heard about it moving to FOX and getting a post Idol slot was wrong! :lol:</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>well Brad I guess that the news I heard about it moving to FOX and getting a post Idol slot was wrong! <img src='http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_lol.gif' alt=':lol:' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Bill Gorman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bill Gorman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Nov 2009 17:27:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@GEORGE 11, check your humor detector, it may need new batteries.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@GEORGE 11, check your humor detector, it may need new batteries.</p>
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		<title>By: GEORGE 11</title>
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		<dc:creator>GEORGE 11</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Nov 2009 17:22:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@t brad
omg!!! thats amazing!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@t brad<br />
omg!!! thats amazing!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Brad</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Nov 2009 16:55:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just heard - UB is going to air after Lost!

;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just heard &#8211; UB is going to air after Lost!</p>
<p> <img src='http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Ryan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ryan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Nov 2009 16:51:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I hate twilight with a passion. And I hate the twilight fans. 20/20 screwed up with the crap about the sparkly vampires.

VAMPIRES DIE IN SUNLIGHT NOT SPARKLE LIKE A FRUIT CAKE.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hate twilight with a passion. And I hate the twilight fans. 20/20 screwed up with the crap about the sparkly vampires.</p>
<p>VAMPIRES DIE IN SUNLIGHT NOT SPARKLE LIKE A FRUIT CAKE.</p>
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		<title>By: R.G.</title>
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		<dc:creator>R.G.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Nov 2009 16:38:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It was thanksgiving weekend. Everybody went and slept.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It was thanksgiving weekend. Everybody went and slept.</p>
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		<title>By: Christopher</title>
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		<dc:creator>Christopher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Nov 2009 16:18:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>everything is all new Friday</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>everything is all new Friday</p>
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		<title>By: Theoacme</title>
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		<dc:creator>Theoacme</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Nov 2009 13:28:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>cougarman...a sick pun, &quot;burn off&quot; and &quot;Eastwick&quot;...

...but a wickedly funny one :lol:

They could order the new drama, &quot;TV By The Numbers&quot;, starring all of us ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>cougarman&#8230;a sick pun, &#8220;burn off&#8221; and &#8220;Eastwick&#8221;&#8230;</p>
<p>&#8230;but a wickedly funny one <img src='http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_lol.gif' alt=':lol:' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>They could order the new drama, &#8220;TV By The Numbers&#8221;, starring all of us <img src='http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: cougarman</title>
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		<dc:creator>cougarman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Nov 2009 12:02:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ugly betty and eastwick should be put together and burned off within December,and abc should better order some new drama to take the place of ub and ew.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ugly betty and eastwick should be put together and burned off within December,and abc should better order some new drama to take the place of ub and ew.</p>
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		<title>By: Save Ugly Betty</title>
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		<dc:creator>Save Ugly Betty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Nov 2009 12:01:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>http://twitter.com/SaveUglyBetty</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://twitter.com/SaveUglyBetty" rel="nofollow">http://twitter.com/SaveUglyBetty</a></p>
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		<title>By: Terrence</title>
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		<dc:creator>Terrence</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Nov 2009 11:22:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>May all of you Iand ABC as well) look foolish when &quot;Ugly Betty&quot; is wisely moved to the Wednesday anchor slot and it&#039;s numbers tick up to warrant a fifth season renewal. 

You may say I&#039;m a dreamer, but I&#039;m not the only one.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>May all of you Iand ABC as well) look foolish when &#8220;Ugly Betty&#8221; is wisely moved to the Wednesday anchor slot and it&#8217;s numbers tick up to warrant a fifth season renewal. </p>
<p>You may say I&#8217;m a dreamer, but I&#8217;m not the only one.</p>
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		<title>By: starmud</title>
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		<dc:creator>starmud</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Nov 2009 08:30:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>saying UB is &quot;dead&quot; over this weeks outing is a bit ridiculous, im not saying the show will go on for another season but the predictions and feedback made here over this particular Friday is pretty silly... your talking about a horrible day to run an episode, much less a show that skews female and younger... obviously many viewers would ditch. 

i didn&#039;t even think a new UB would be on this week... personally, i think it was a lame choice on abc&#039;s part to bother with all new episodes on their wednesday and friday lineups...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>saying UB is &#8220;dead&#8221; over this weeks outing is a bit ridiculous, im not saying the show will go on for another season but the predictions and feedback made here over this particular Friday is pretty silly&#8230; your talking about a horrible day to run an episode, much less a show that skews female and younger&#8230; obviously many viewers would ditch. </p>
<p>i didn&#8217;t even think a new UB would be on this week&#8230; personally, i think it was a lame choice on abc&#8217;s part to bother with all new episodes on their wednesday and friday lineups&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Charolette</title>
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		<dc:creator>Charolette</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Nov 2009 08:01:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Calm the heck down people. All these numbers will be up next week. And I agree with you Keith, I love Ugly Betty but I am tired of every single post saying &quot;it&#039;s dead&quot;. I know it&#039;s dead and I&#039;ve accepted it. Im just so tired of hearing it, we get it people.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Calm the heck down people. All these numbers will be up next week. And I agree with you Keith, I love Ugly Betty but I am tired of every single post saying &#8220;it&#8217;s dead&#8221;. I know it&#8217;s dead and I&#8217;ve accepted it. Im just so tired of hearing it, we get it people.</p>
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		<title>By: Keith</title>
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		<dc:creator>Keith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Nov 2009 06:23:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Bill, I am over it, and if you read my post for content, you would know that, as I wrote &quot;We get it ‘Ugly Betty’ is done, can we move on.&quot; Okay, I&#039;ll admit TVBTN didn&#039;t get everything wrong BUT...TVBTN did get a lot of it wrong (the site admitted as much in posts last May after the upfronts). That was the point of the original post in the first place. You and I can&#039;t know what the networks are going to do until next May. Maybe you should accept and get over that!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Bill, I am over it, and if you read my post for content, you would know that, as I wrote &#8220;We get it ‘Ugly Betty’ is done, can we move on.&#8221; Okay, I&#8217;ll admit TVBTN didn&#8217;t get everything wrong BUT&#8230;TVBTN did get a lot of it wrong (the site admitted as much in posts last May after the upfronts). That was the point of the original post in the first place. You and I can&#8217;t know what the networks are going to do until next May. Maybe you should accept and get over that!</p>
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		<title>By: zeker</title>
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		<dc:creator>zeker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Nov 2009 06:12:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Can we add the following to the Bingo cards (if they aren&#039;t already there)

1) Holiday (in this case, Thanksgiving)

2) Preemption or overruns or some other local shenanigans

3) The Renewal/Cancel index is flawed :-)

Heh.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can we add the following to the Bingo cards (if they aren&#8217;t already there)</p>
<p>1) Holiday (in this case, Thanksgiving)</p>
<p>2) Preemption or overruns or some other local shenanigans</p>
<p>3) The Renewal/Cancel index is flawed <img src='http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Heh.</p>
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		<title>By: RJ</title>
		<link>http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2009/11/28/tv-ratings-abcs-2020-tops-ugly-betty-ratings-not-pretty/34737/comment-page-4/#comment-167255</link>
		<dc:creator>RJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Nov 2009 06:00:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ABC should just dump the remaining episodes of Ugly Betty on Saturdays after football is done.  Have a three hour marathon for a couple weeks.  They could also burn them off during Christmas week or something.  Just bring back Wife Swap to 8pm to get a 1.4 demo, leading into Supernanny which will pull a 1.7 demo.  20/20 can then do a 2.0+ demo.  Simple as that!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ABC should just dump the remaining episodes of Ugly Betty on Saturdays after football is done.  Have a three hour marathon for a couple weeks.  They could also burn them off during Christmas week or something.  Just bring back Wife Swap to 8pm to get a 1.4 demo, leading into Supernanny which will pull a 1.7 demo.  20/20 can then do a 2.0+ demo.  Simple as that!</p>
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		<title>By: Theoacme</title>
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		<dc:creator>Theoacme</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Nov 2009 06:00:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s not proven, based on recent historical trends) that any show does reasonably well (that is, only decreases somewhat in the demo) when moved to Friday...

...just ask CBS about Medium (then again, syndication will play a part in any renewal decision there, as CBS produces the show).

It&#039;s not proven that AFV will get the 2.2 demo it got two Sundays ago, or anywhere near that, if it moves to Fridays.  Yes, it&#039;s cheaper than dirt, but don&#039;t forget the syndication issues with Betty will make Disney more money by airing the remaining episodes.

Is the .9 for Betty an outlier, or a huge negative trend?  One data point does not a trend make - let&#039;s see what happens next week...

..and she&#039;s in hospice, I get that, I really do - can we please let her die in peace, not in pieces, before burying her?

My guess is no :(</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s not proven, based on recent historical trends) that any show does reasonably well (that is, only decreases somewhat in the demo) when moved to Friday&#8230;</p>
<p>&#8230;just ask CBS about Medium (then again, syndication will play a part in any renewal decision there, as CBS produces the show).</p>
<p>It&#8217;s not proven that AFV will get the 2.2 demo it got two Sundays ago, or anywhere near that, if it moves to Fridays.  Yes, it&#8217;s cheaper than dirt, but don&#8217;t forget the syndication issues with Betty will make Disney more money by airing the remaining episodes.</p>
<p>Is the .9 for Betty an outlier, or a huge negative trend?  One data point does not a trend make &#8211; let&#8217;s see what happens next week&#8230;</p>
<p>..and she&#8217;s in hospice, I get that, I really do &#8211; can we please let her die in peace, not in pieces, before burying her?</p>
<p>My guess is no <img src='http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':(' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Theoacme</title>
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		<dc:creator>Theoacme</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Nov 2009 05:41:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Keith - a simple illustration (hopefully, Bill, I get this right!):

If Betty started getting 3.0 demos from next week, the Index for Betty could:

a) improve, if all of ABC&#039;s other shows improve less than Betty does,

b) worsen, if all of ABC&#039;s other shows improve more than Betty does,

c) either improve or worsen, depending on the net effect of all of the changes to the demos of all of ABC&#039;s shows, some of which may go up, some down, and some wander around like a drunken chicken in a tub of barbecue sauce (thank God I don&#039;t have to figure that!)

Remember, the Renew/Cancel Index is based on the premise, &quot;What if yesterday was the last day of the season, and the renewal decisions have to be made right now?  Of course, now is too early for that final decision, but it indicates a trend...

...for instance, Betty is in County General, in the ER, and Gates and Rasgotra are trying to break the news to her gently - but they&#039;ve got all the machines working, just in the (unlikely) case things get better for her...

...and if her sats (Index) gets over .80, as unlikely as that is, she may go orange, especially if someone at ABC says something positive about her...

...and if she makes .90, I hope Bill and Robert have a server load contingency plan...

...as I said before, the wake starts now on ABC - have a mimosa on me...

...and if Betty walks out like that supposedly dead, then misplaced, Luxembourgian soldier on M*A*S*H, give that girl a Blue Ribbon :D</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Keith &#8211; a simple illustration (hopefully, Bill, I get this right!):</p>
<p>If Betty started getting 3.0 demos from next week, the Index for Betty could:</p>
<p>a) improve, if all of ABC&#8217;s other shows improve less than Betty does,</p>
<p>b) worsen, if all of ABC&#8217;s other shows improve more than Betty does,</p>
<p>c) either improve or worsen, depending on the net effect of all of the changes to the demos of all of ABC&#8217;s shows, some of which may go up, some down, and some wander around like a drunken chicken in a tub of barbecue sauce (thank God I don&#8217;t have to figure that!)</p>
<p>Remember, the Renew/Cancel Index is based on the premise, &#8220;What if yesterday was the last day of the season, and the renewal decisions have to be made right now?  Of course, now is too early for that final decision, but it indicates a trend&#8230;</p>
<p>&#8230;for instance, Betty is in County General, in the ER, and Gates and Rasgotra are trying to break the news to her gently &#8211; but they&#8217;ve got all the machines working, just in the (unlikely) case things get better for her&#8230;</p>
<p>&#8230;and if her sats (Index) gets over .80, as unlikely as that is, she may go orange, especially if someone at ABC says something positive about her&#8230;</p>
<p>&#8230;and if she makes .90, I hope Bill and Robert have a server load contingency plan&#8230;</p>
<p>&#8230;as I said before, the wake starts now on ABC &#8211; have a mimosa on me&#8230;</p>
<p>&#8230;and if Betty walks out like that supposedly dead, then misplaced, Luxembourgian soldier on M*A*S*H, give that girl a Blue Ribbon <img src='http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: ABCHasProblems</title>
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		<dc:creator>ABCHasProblems</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Nov 2009 05:29:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Theoacme, AFV is one of those shows like Bones that will find an audience on any day of the week. Last season&#039;s unpromoted finale which aired on Friday, May 15th (and competed against the night&#039;s #1 show--Farrah&#039;s Story--in the 9pm hour) averaged a 1.6 demo from 8-10pm. That&#039;s better than anything ABC has aired on Fridays since the Wife Swap/Supernanny combo from last year. With the lower ratings this season, I don&#039;t see why ABC can&#039;t move AFV to anchor Friday nights. EMHE would significantly improve the 7pm timeslot; and if Castle&#039;s compatible with Find My Family, there&#039;s no doubt it would be just as compatible with EMHE.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Theoacme, AFV is one of those shows like Bones that will find an audience on any day of the week. Last season&#8217;s unpromoted finale which aired on Friday, May 15th (and competed against the night&#8217;s #1 show&#8211;Farrah&#8217;s Story&#8211;in the 9pm hour) averaged a 1.6 demo from 8-10pm. That&#8217;s better than anything ABC has aired on Fridays since the Wife Swap/Supernanny combo from last year. With the lower ratings this season, I don&#8217;t see why ABC can&#8217;t move AFV to anchor Friday nights. EMHE would significantly improve the 7pm timeslot; and if Castle&#8217;s compatible with Find My Family, there&#8217;s no doubt it would be just as compatible with EMHE.</p>
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		<title>By: Julia</title>
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		<dc:creator>Julia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Nov 2009 05:24:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think the only surprises last season were Dollhouse, Better Off Ted and Scrubs. Everything else was called correctly, if memory serves.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the only surprises last season were Dollhouse, Better Off Ted and Scrubs. Everything else was called correctly, if memory serves.</p>
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		<title>By: Theoacme</title>
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		<dc:creator>Theoacme</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Nov 2009 05:20:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Keith:  You forget that the Index does not account for unexpected events, like a weather forecast does not account for a Martian death-ray evaporating the molten core of the earth - such as Jay Leno...

...and the Index is not a law, or a theory, but a hypothesis based on economically obtainable data.  (Bill and Robert would likely happily accept donations of either the cash necessary to get more info from Nielsen, or the cash needed so they can improve Nielsen&#039;s backup generator system as an in-kind quid pro quo to get the better data - but they would probably need high seven figures to fund the endowment needed.)

Since they cannot get many data categories that could help explain why FOX would renew Til Death (a huge &#039;boink!&#039;), but have noticed a relationship (however imperfect, there is a relationship) between demo ratings and cancellation/renewal prospects, why not just enjoy the ride, like I do...an &quot;B&quot; ticket ride, for free...

...they wouldn&#039;t mind us clicking an ad banner once in a while, either :D</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Keith:  You forget that the Index does not account for unexpected events, like a weather forecast does not account for a Martian death-ray evaporating the molten core of the earth &#8211; such as Jay Leno&#8230;</p>
<p>&#8230;and the Index is not a law, or a theory, but a hypothesis based on economically obtainable data.  (Bill and Robert would likely happily accept donations of either the cash necessary to get more info from Nielsen, or the cash needed so they can improve Nielsen&#8217;s backup generator system as an in-kind quid pro quo to get the better data &#8211; but they would probably need high seven figures to fund the endowment needed.)</p>
<p>Since they cannot get many data categories that could help explain why FOX would renew Til Death (a huge &#8216;boink!&#8217;), but have noticed a relationship (however imperfect, there is a relationship) between demo ratings and cancellation/renewal prospects, why not just enjoy the ride, like I do&#8230;an &#8220;B&#8221; ticket ride, for free&#8230;</p>
<p>&#8230;they wouldn&#8217;t mind us clicking an ad banner once in a while, either <img src='http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Terrence</title>
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		<dc:creator>Terrence</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Nov 2009 05:17:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I say this every week. ABC was foolish to move &quot;Ugly Betty&quot; to Fridays instead of Wednesdays. I follow the show and had no idea that it was an original episode. I imagine others didn&#039;t either. 

The show deserves much better treatment from ABC.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I say this every week. ABC was foolish to move &#8220;Ugly Betty&#8221; to Fridays instead of Wednesdays. I follow the show and had no idea that it was an original episode. I imagine others didn&#8217;t either. </p>
<p>The show deserves much better treatment from ABC.</p>
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		<title>By: Bill Gorman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bill Gorman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Nov 2009 05:16:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Keith, Everything wrong?&lt;a href=&quot;http://tvbythenumbers.com/2009/05/27/final-renewals-cancellations-for-the-2008-9-tv-season/19474&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt; Au contraire, mon ami. &lt;/a&gt; I had a far better record than most. Particularly if you consider that I start making calls *one* week into the season. Most predictions come much, much later.

Betty&#039;s done after this season. Get over it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Keith, Everything wrong?<a href="http://tvbythenumbers.com/2009/05/27/final-renewals-cancellations-for-the-2008-9-tv-season/19474" rel="nofollow"> Au contraire, mon ami. </a> I had a far better record than most. Particularly if you consider that I start making calls *one* week into the season. Most predictions come much, much later.</p>
<p>Betty&#8217;s done after this season. Get over it.</p>
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		<title>By: Theoacme</title>
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		<dc:creator>Theoacme</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Nov 2009 04:57:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>tvmegafan - my guess is that the syndication revenues for AFV are rather small, but present, so to that extent, point well taken...

...however, WGN America&#039;s ratings aren&#039;t exactly in Monk territory - the only real advantage is that it can fill in anywhere at a moments&#039; notice...

...and a further example - Minneapolis has a MyNet, a CW, an ion (main + 3 subchannels), an independent station, as well as the usual network affiliates, with a total of two subchannels...

...KSTP (ABC) has one subchannel, KARE (NBC) has one, and WCCO (CBS) and KMSP (FOX) have none...

...and AFV is nowhere on the broadcast schedule here - in the #15 market in the country...

And also, why would the demo audience stay home to watch AFV on Fridays?  I can&#039;t think of a show recently that has improved its demos when moving to Fridays.  Yes, AFV&#039;s costs would be lower than Betty&#039;s, but the demo loss won&#039;t help...

IMO, if ABC cancels Betty now, it won&#039;t likely help them at all, as they will also take a hit on Betty&#039;s syndication.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>tvmegafan &#8211; my guess is that the syndication revenues for AFV are rather small, but present, so to that extent, point well taken&#8230;</p>
<p>&#8230;however, WGN America&#8217;s ratings aren&#8217;t exactly in Monk territory &#8211; the only real advantage is that it can fill in anywhere at a moments&#8217; notice&#8230;</p>
<p>&#8230;and a further example &#8211; Minneapolis has a MyNet, a CW, an ion (main + 3 subchannels), an independent station, as well as the usual network affiliates, with a total of two subchannels&#8230;</p>
<p>&#8230;KSTP (ABC) has one subchannel, KARE (NBC) has one, and WCCO (CBS) and KMSP (FOX) have none&#8230;</p>
<p>&#8230;and AFV is nowhere on the broadcast schedule here &#8211; in the #15 market in the country&#8230;</p>
<p>And also, why would the demo audience stay home to watch AFV on Fridays?  I can&#8217;t think of a show recently that has improved its demos when moving to Fridays.  Yes, AFV&#8217;s costs would be lower than Betty&#8217;s, but the demo loss won&#8217;t help&#8230;</p>
<p>IMO, if ABC cancels Betty now, it won&#8217;t likely help them at all, as they will also take a hit on Betty&#8217;s syndication.</p>
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		<title>By: Keith</title>
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		<dc:creator>Keith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Nov 2009 04:38:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We get it &#039;Ugly Betty&#039; is done, can we move on... but dont forget too that TVBTN pretty much got everything wrong last season regarding cancellations, so who really knows what&#039;s going to happen?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We get it &#8216;Ugly Betty&#8217; is done, can we move on&#8230; but dont forget too that TVBTN pretty much got everything wrong last season regarding cancellations, so who really knows what&#8217;s going to happen?</p>
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		<title>By: Drew C.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Drew C.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Nov 2009 04:23:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>TVMegaFan, so far TB sales are flat through early November. But recall the Numbers has a two-week delay. We&#039;ll get post-Black Friday data a week from Tuesday I think (maybe the next week).

I foresee special after special on the broadcasters...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>TVMegaFan, so far TB sales are flat through early November. But recall the Numbers has a two-week delay. We&#8217;ll get post-Black Friday data a week from Tuesday I think (maybe the next week).</p>
<p>I foresee special after special on the broadcasters&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Winston</title>
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		<dc:creator>Winston</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Nov 2009 04:11:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Betty is SO OVER...stop the bleeding and give us something good to watch....like a Shrek Christmas special!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Betty is SO OVER&#8230;stop the bleeding and give us something good to watch&#8230;.like a Shrek Christmas special!</p>
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		<title>By: Bill Gorman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bill Gorman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Nov 2009 03:55:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not enough interest from readers to continue posting TV show DVD sales. You can find all the information at the-numbers.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not enough interest from readers to continue posting TV show DVD sales. You can find all the information at the-numbers.com</p>
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		<title>By: tvmegafan</title>
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		<dc:creator>tvmegafan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Nov 2009 03:23:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Also Why doesnt this site, post the Tv to dvd sales ratings anymore? I wanna see True Bloods DVD sales again, I bet there rising even more now with christmas coming up!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Also Why doesnt this site, post the Tv to dvd sales ratings anymore? I wanna see True Bloods DVD sales again, I bet there rising even more now with christmas coming up!!!</p>
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		<title>By: tvmegafan</title>
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		<dc:creator>tvmegafan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Nov 2009 03:17:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I used to watch UB but I stopped, I kinda miss it sometimes but Oh well. I Cannot wait for Dollhouse to come back, OMG I freakin love it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I used to watch UB but I stopped, I kinda miss it sometimes but Oh well. I Cannot wait for Dollhouse to come back, OMG I freakin love it.</p>
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		<title>By: ABCHasProblems</title>
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		<dc:creator>ABCHasProblems</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Nov 2009 03:15:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Since Castle proved to all of us this week that it can hold its own audience, it would do fine on Sundays at 8 after Extreme Makeover: Home Edition. They just need to move the latter show up to 7pm so it can anchor the night. I can guarantee you that another Samantha Who?-like cancellation won&#039;t happen again if they move Castle away from Monday night.

ABC needs to slot True Beauty at 10pm after The Bachelor since it can&#039;t hold its own like Castle. (Anyone remember the special Tuesday 10pm airing of True Beauty earlier in the year?)

Episodes of AFV from 2001-present are syndicated on local broadcast stations and WGN; ABC does make back-end money from that show. First-run episodes of AFV would do fine on Fridays at 8pm and would outrate Supernanny in the demo and total viewers, but having AFV as a lead-in wouldn&#039;t do much for UB since it&#039;s serialized. That&#039;s why Supernanny and Wife Swap should share the post-AFV slot at 9pm.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Since Castle proved to all of us this week that it can hold its own audience, it would do fine on Sundays at 8 after Extreme Makeover: Home Edition. They just need to move the latter show up to 7pm so it can anchor the night. I can guarantee you that another Samantha Who?-like cancellation won&#8217;t happen again if they move Castle away from Monday night.</p>
<p>ABC needs to slot True Beauty at 10pm after The Bachelor since it can&#8217;t hold its own like Castle. (Anyone remember the special Tuesday 10pm airing of True Beauty earlier in the year?)</p>
<p>Episodes of AFV from 2001-present are syndicated on local broadcast stations and WGN; ABC does make back-end money from that show. First-run episodes of AFV would do fine on Fridays at 8pm and would outrate Supernanny in the demo and total viewers, but having AFV as a lead-in wouldn&#8217;t do much for UB since it&#8217;s serialized. That&#8217;s why Supernanny and Wife Swap should share the post-AFV slot at 9pm.</p>
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