Comments on: TV Ratings: CBS Wins Friday Again; Two New Hours of Smallville Are Better than One for CW

By: Dany

Dany — Tue, 09 Feb 2010 16:29:02 +0000

CONGRATULATIONS SMALLVILLE!!! Well done!

By: Prime Time Geek » PTG Episode 90: Absolute Smallville

Prime Time Geek » PTG Episode 90: Absolute Smallville — Tue, 09 Feb 2010 15:47:38 +0000

[...] and Medium drawing 8.77 million and 9.10 million viewers, respectively. Also, according to TVbytheNumbers, reruns of “Law and Order” and “House” beat out “Smallville: Absolute [...]

By: WingsStef

WingsStef — Tue, 09 Feb 2010 04:19:55 +0000

Looks like Numb3rs had the most viewers all night. Sweet.

By: Robert

Robert — Tue, 09 Feb 2010 04:19:51 +0000

Smallville: Absolute Justice (Society & Legends) 2 hour Movie was awsome, spectacular, amazing!!! I watched it live and then after went to my DVR and watched it 3 more times. OMG Smallville is the best. Tom Welling (Clark/Superman) was great as always. And not only was he on set acting he also Directed the 2nd half, dang the guy can act an direct, oh ya he also is a executive producer for the show to. WOW. . . What an terrific job from him and the rest of the Smallville team. Tom Welling needs to be our next and last Superman. He needs to carrie on where Christopher Reeve (One and only Superman) left off.

Come on Warner Brother’s and come on CW Network. Bring on a Season 10 and in the series finally Put him in the Christopher Reeve Superman suit from either his first movie or seconed movie.
Then when Smallville is done make him our new Superman, in a series of movies with powerfull / legendary villians like Mongul, Darkside and Of course DOOMSDAY!!!

Then bring on a JLA movie before Superman vs Doomsday,… Go along with the comics it will be the best movie ever, not only heroes but all movies!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

This is Robert signing off and telling everyone to look up in the sky, and you will believe a man can fly~!

By: Smallville #1 Fan

Smallville #1 Fan — Tue, 09 Feb 2010 00:15:17 +0000

Oh yes! I wanted to thank Robert Seidman for posting a picture of Smallville as the front cover and also for including Smallville in the title section!

Thank’s a lot.. ! It makes me happy to see Smallville recognized!

By: Smallville #1 Fan

Smallville #1 Fan — Tue, 09 Feb 2010 00:14:19 +0000

Haha the word Smallville was said 119 times on this comments section…

By: kwhy8strm

kwhy8strm — Tue, 09 Feb 2010 00:11:26 +0000

Unfortunately, my wife and I must be the only ones watching Shark Tank, we do tivo Medium however.

By: Joshua

Joshua — Mon, 08 Feb 2010 22:42:20 +0000

Now if Smallville will just stay down that same path they WILL see more followers. Good job with the movie.

By: X-R.G.

X-R.G. — Mon, 08 Feb 2010 18:56:48 +0000

Wow…good for Smallville…but I still thought it would have done a little better…well I guess it’s still an improvement… :/

By: tooltip86

tooltip86 — Mon, 08 Feb 2010 16:09:36 +0000

i love smallvile

By: El episodio especial de Smallville, Absolute Justice, bate record de audiencia - Series Adictos

Mon, 08 Feb 2010 11:50:19 +0000

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By: Patrick

Patrick — Mon, 08 Feb 2010 07:03:27 +0000

Feb. 5 was a really funny, inventive and overall great episode of Medium! Very satisfying to see that so many folks watched it.

By: Acey

Acey — Mon, 08 Feb 2010 06:20:13 +0000

LOL Joe. Seeking out Nielsen households. That’s dedication.

By: Shimbo

Shimbo — Mon, 08 Feb 2010 03:42:51 +0000

Does it even matter if people watch a specific show at a specific time? Or does Neilesen’s number not factor that in at all?

By: Tumbleweeds

Tumbleweeds — Mon, 08 Feb 2010 02:01:53 +0000

Let’s not get carried away with the 20,000 sets. Let’s remember how polls are done. For example Rasmussen in 2004 called only 5,000 residents country wide for the presidential election and his poll had it 50.2%-48.5% Bush, the election was 50.7%-48.3% Bush. These people can predict with great accuracy with very little actual participation.

By: Smallville #1 Fan

Smallville #1 Fan — Sun, 07 Feb 2010 22:34:33 +0000

Thanks for the clarification Robert.
“ATTENTION SMALLVILLE FANS!!!!!

Based on the above calculations. If we can find 174 Nielsen households (an impossible task as I have never met a Nielsen participant) that currently do not watch Smallville and force them by any means necessary to watch Smallville, we can increase Smallville’s viewership by roughly 1,000,000 viewers!!!!! I’m in, so if we can get another 173 of you to track down one nielsen family and make them watch Friday at 8pm, we can secure almost 4 million in viewership. Robert, you in? LOL

Again, thanks for the clarification.”

Haha Joe you are a genius! I’M IN! Why don’t we aim for around 10,000 households instead? 50 million viewers watching Smallville.. LOL!! It would be a two hour movie episode EVERY WEEK!! Haha

By: Kitty from Ohio

Kitty from Ohio — Sun, 07 Feb 2010 21:11:26 +0000

I kept having brownouts for the last 15 mins. of Smallville. Bought the Amazon tho. Glad the ratings are fine!

By: Joe

Joe — Sun, 07 Feb 2010 20:29:09 +0000

Thanks for the clarification Robert.

ATTENTION SMALLVILLE FANS!!!!!

Again, thanks for the clarification.

By: Smallville # 1 Fan

Smallville # 1 Fan — Sun, 07 Feb 2010 20:18:25 +0000

I don’t understand how this system can work..

By: Robert Seidman

Robert Seidman — Sun, 07 Feb 2010 18:08:09 +0000

Joe, Nielsen projects their sample out to their universe estimates. Those estimates are very detailed, but the # of TV households is 114.9 million and the number of P2+ (people age 2 and up) is just over 292 million. The 20,000/60,000 are estimates on my part. It could be 19,500/54,864 for all I know, but based on Nielsen’s own universe estimates there are on average 2.54 viewers per TV household. So at 20,000 homes that would be closer to 50,000 than 60,000 (50,833). So one household would project out to about 5,745 households, and same for viewers. Every show has a different average viewers per household, but it’s usually closer to 1.25/HH than 2.

On average 10,000 Nielsen viewers watching would generate a huge number (over 57 million) but it’s not really that simple because different age groups have different populations so some viewers of some ages would project out to more viewers than others.

By: Joe

Joe — Sun, 07 Feb 2010 17:21:20 +0000

So 20,000 Nielsen homes, 60,000 people in total from those 20,000 homes. That’s where all these numbers come from? So for example if 5,000 of the homes are watching a particular show and there are two poeple in each of those homes watching (10,000 people…. not that you couldn’t do that math… but for some of the others on this site…LOL) what would the rating be for that show on this site… a 25 share and how many million viewers?

By: Robert Seidman

Robert Seidman — Sun, 07 Feb 2010 17:10:05 +0000

Joe, no. There are only around 20,000 Nielsen homes (about 60,000 people) in the national panel equipped with people meters. Pretty much all of the ratings you see on this site are from that national panel. There are other panels, and people not equipped with people meters who use diaries, but mostly that is for local markets. Again, all of the ratings we post are from the national People Meter panel.

By: Joe

Joe — Sun, 07 Feb 2010 17:05:39 +0000

So wait. There are only 20,000 neilsen members in the whole country? Thats what the ratings are based on?

By: Shimbo

Shimbo — Sun, 07 Feb 2010 16:59:46 +0000

Thank you Bill!
How does one become a member of the Nielsen family? I just thought different stations know how many TV’s are set to one station at any given time. I did not know you had to push a button before the show starts. Lets say you push it 5 minutes into the show?
I have been keeping up with this site for the past 2 years to see how shows are doing, but never really inquired any of the questions I asked above!

By: Dean

Dean — Sun, 07 Feb 2010 16:35:10 +0000

I usually like Smallville, but I just wanted to kick Hawkman in his little birdie balls every time he opened his mouth. Painfully bad acting.

By: steve

steve — Sun, 07 Feb 2010 14:37:52 +0000

woohoo a 2.0 for Numb3rs my guess would be GW & Medium come back and if miami medical tanks numb3rs gets an order of 13 as a mid season replacement.

By: Robert Seidman

Robert Seidman — Sun, 07 Feb 2010 07:01:04 +0000

vsaint, if you live alone that approach would work. Otherwise, in any decade, you’re going to need a way to identify individual members of the household.

By: vsaint

vsaint — Sun, 07 Feb 2010 06:49:26 +0000

What? You have to push a button to record your watching?
Shouldn’t it be like a cable/dvr box that turns on with your tv & records all data.
It is 2010 after all.

By: Acey

Acey — Sun, 07 Feb 2010 05:50:29 +0000

@Alec Total viewers has never mattered to CBS. They will not hesitate to cancel a show that is winning its timeslot.

By: Dee

Dee — Sun, 07 Feb 2010 05:38:01 +0000

I just read that the top job at Lifetime is open again. Someone should urge Lady Dawn to dump her CW gig and go for it. That would make things better for everyone. It is now utterly clear that the network’s brighter future is in genre adventure shows and not in the bimbo soap operas she is so fond of.

By: Robert Seidman

Robert Seidman — Sun, 07 Feb 2010 04:55:59 +0000

Joan, you might have read that article here. I’ve written about it a few times. Nielsen online measurement is still a ways off though, probably more than a year before it will count for ad sales.

Smallville has never been the most DVR’d show, but it has often been among the shows with the highest percentage of viewing coming from DVRs.

By: joan

joan — Sun, 07 Feb 2010 04:32:07 +0000

I read an article on variety said that Nielsen is finally going to start counting online viewing. But the only bad thing is advertisers want the same amount of commercials, of course that’s not setting well with online viewers. Dammm advertisers always have to ruining everything. They don’t like DVR and TIVO can cut out or zoom through commercials, they really piss me off. Smallville is really a good show now wasn’t it the most DVR’d show?

By: Sammy Boy

Sammy Boy — Sun, 07 Feb 2010 03:48:48 +0000

That is a horrible system!!

By: Bill Gorman

Bill Gorman — Sun, 07 Feb 2010 03:35:45 +0000

Bah, indeed.

By: Robert Seidman

Robert Seidman — Sun, 07 Feb 2010 03:27:01 +0000

900? More like ~3100

(18m/115m)*20,000

By: Bill Gorman

Bill Gorman — Sun, 07 Feb 2010 03:21:37 +0000

Sammy Boy, I’m sure that Nielsen includes all the major TV service providers in its sample, and I know they include over the air only families. Could there be small cable companies without a Nielsen family? Quite possibly, I don’t know.

My understanding is that those 20,000 US households mirror the US TV population as best Nielsen can, so that DirectTV’s ~18 million subscribers would translate into something around ~~900~~ 3100 Nielsen families.

By: Sammy Boy

Sammy Boy — Sun, 07 Feb 2010 03:14:35 +0000

Bill.. does Dish network take part of the nielson family?

By: Bill Gorman

Bill Gorman — Sun, 07 Feb 2010 03:11:49 +0000

Shimbo, if you’re a member of a Nielsen family with a people meter (~20,000 US households) each member of the family has a button on the people meter to push when they start watching TV and Nielsen then tracks what’s watched on that TV and puts it together with the indicated family member(s).

The reason that only adults 18-49 “count” for broadcast primetime shows is that’s how advertising is priced. More adults 18-49 mean higher advertising prices. Viewers older than 49 watch in such great numbers they are effectively free for advertisers to reach. Viewers under 18 are targeted by many cable networks as well as broadcast shows in other time periods (like Saturday morning), but for primetime all the money is made from adults 18-49.

By: Shimbo

Shimbo — Sun, 07 Feb 2010 03:04:51 +0000

I know I am going to sound stupid, but why does the age range from 18-49 only count? How about younger and older people who enjoy these shows?
Also, how does Nielsen’s Rating know it performed well with that demographic? Lets say 4 people are living in a house and 2 are below 18 and 2 are in that age range, how does the rating system know those 2 people (in the 18-49) demographic watched the show and not the 2 younger people?

By: TigersWood

TigersWood — Sun, 07 Feb 2010 02:36:45 +0000

Hats off to ABC’s brilliant executive Chaning Dungy:

More bad news for the ratings-challenged FlashForward: Variety reports that showrunner/co-creator David Goyer is leaving the ABC series.

Goyer was the second showrunner to serve on the series (after Mark Guggenheim).

FlashForward’s audience dropped from 12.5 million to 7.07 million in just three months.

ABC has had an equally tough time launching its other high-concept show, V – which lost 35% of its audience (14.3 million to 9.3 million) over just four airings last fall.

***Channing has an eye for “hits”. Let’s not forget:

1- “Eastwick”
2- “The Deep End”
3- “The Forgotten”

PS- Chaning…you may want to consider “teaching” full time…tee he!

By: Sammy Boy

Sammy Boy — Sun, 07 Feb 2010 02:11:52 +0000

They are not bringing in Wonder Women. They are simply doing a nod towards Wonder Women.. Lois Lane is wearing a costume… which she calls an “Amazonian Princess” costume.

By: Craig

Craig — Sun, 07 Feb 2010 02:09:59 +0000

I love Smallville I’ve watched it from the beginning I’m from Kansas I almost stopped watching it when Jimmy was killed off. Just when I think can’t go anywhere it does. I like there bringing in the other super heroes, like to see Wonder Woman, haven’t seen her in years. But no one will take Linda Cater place.

By: Sammy Boy

Sammy Boy — Sun, 07 Feb 2010 01:48:06 +0000

Smallville is getting a tenth season! Awesome!

I’m so glad, the show deserves it! I’m glad that Smallville is joining the ranks of the double digit seasons shows! Smallville is an incredible show that I love!

By: Don

Don — Sun, 07 Feb 2010 01:42:11 +0000

I think Smallville should get a tenth season and allow them to give SV the finish they want.

But if they get the tenth PLAN closure guys.

By: Stud

Stud — Sun, 07 Feb 2010 01:19:29 +0000

Jasmine is just jealous the leads of The Vampire Diaries don’t have laser vision, super breath: the ability to extinguish fires in less then 2 seconds flat, the ability to jump super high, the ability to move faster then the human eyes can move, the ability to withstand a nuclear bomb, the ability to hold huge amounts of weights, x-ray vision, Telescopic and Microscopic Vision, the power to hear objects 10 miles away, and the ability to speed read.

By: Ben Thompson

Ben Thompson — Sun, 07 Feb 2010 00:18:43 +0000

@Jasmine
Are you crazy why would they get rid of their second highest rated show, you really need to look at things properly. VD does good for the CW but so does Smallville

By: Stud

Stud — Sun, 07 Feb 2010 00:00:06 +0000

“I am happy for the Smallville cast and crew. Many thought it would go to Friday nights to die. Not so fast…. Did I hear a Lex Luthor reference during the second hour? Is Michael Rosenbaum returning??”
Yeah! Dr. Fate talked about Lex Luthor being Clark’s nemesis in the future!!

By: Trad

Trad — Sat, 06 Feb 2010 23:59:18 +0000

“Smallville is still on the air!!! Damn, that’s 3 million people who have nothing better to do on a Friday night than watch this show. Kinda sad!”
This show is awesome!

By: Trad

Trad — Sat, 06 Feb 2010 23:58:51 +0000

Smallville rocks! I watched it!

By: justme24

justme24 — Sat, 06 Feb 2010 23:09:28 +0000

Smallville is still on the air!!! Damn, that’s 3 million people who have nothing better to do on a Friday night than watch this show. Kinda sad!