Bubble Watch: With ‘Fringe’ Renewed, What Does That Mean for ‘V,’ ‘Chuck,’ ‘Lie to Me’ and Others?
When it comes to bubble status, like the Renew/Cancel Index we’re focusing on the likelihood that a show will be renewed for next season (2011-12). Certain shows are toss-ups where based on the ratings, the renewal decisions could go either way and not be surprising.
In the wake of Fringe’s 22 episode fourth season renewal, there are unsurprisingly some questions about what that means for other shows, even other shows that are not on Fox!
What Does Fringe’s Renewal Mean for V?
My guess is it means nothing.
I laughed out loud at some of the comments that suggested perhaps Fox only renewed Fringe to goad ABC into renewing V (presumably so that an ABC that is already far behind Fox would do exactly the sort of thing sure to keep it far behind Fox).
Some have suggested that all science fiction shows should be “on the bubble” regardless of their ratings. I’m not ready to go there, but V isn’t way outside of the bubble. I think it’s a little more likely to be canceled than renewed, but it isn’t in certain cancellation range. I don’t think Fringe’s renewal indicates anything about V’s renewal prospects though.
Yep, it’s also a Warner Bros produced show, but I’m not buying into the “it shows Warner Bros wants to deeply discount its science fiction shows” chatter. The landscapes for V and Fringe are different, both at the networks they air on and for the show themselves..
We don’t see enough DVD sales data to be definitive, but Fringe seems to have relatively good DVD sales compared to V, both by revenue and by unit sales. Of course when it comes to revenue, V couldn’t charge as much simply because it had far fewer episodes in its season.
After two seasons, V only has 22 episodes, nowhere near what it needs for a juicy syndication deal, were such a thing to exist for a science fiction show. Regardless, 88 episodes seems to be the new standard (down from 100) for shows that can be “stripped” Mon-Fri in syndication, and traditionally shows that can be stripped get more lucrative deals than shows that can’t. V is nowhere near that level and wouldn’t be even with two full season pickups.
What Does Fringe’s Renewal Mean for Chuck?
Again, my guess is nothing. Yep, Chuck too is a Warner Bros production, but its past history is what has it on the bubble, not Fringe’s renewal. Warner Bros is obviously willing to negotiate on Chuck’s price, but it may have gone as low as it can go. Chuck’s grasp on the bubble is tenuous and I thought about downgrading it this week to slightly more likely to be canceled than renewed. But Chuck’s past history and that it’s relatively cheap, say compared to The Event. Even at series lows, Chuck still out-rated the most recent The Event by 25%. NBC might keep it around as schedule filler .
Chuck will have nearly 80 episodes (78) at the end of the season. I’m not sure another 13-22 episodes really change Chuck’s syndication value much, but it’s possible that Warner Bros is willing to discount it even further to make a better case for syndication. If so, that will have everything to do with Chuck and nothing to do with Fringe.
What does Fringe’s Renewal Mean for Lie to Me, The Chicago Code and other Fox shows?
Bill is on the record that Fox might pick up one of its marginally rated shows, but not two. Fringe has been renewed now so… I agree with Bill’s assessment but that was predicated on a few assumptions (which Bill was making as well) like that Fox was counting on Terra Nova to be ready and that The X-Factor would take up three hours a week of the schedule in the fall. Those assumptions could still be correct, but the timing of the Fringe renewal plus it being a full 22 episode order have me wondering.
It’s possible Fox still will want some just-in-case scripted schedule spackle, even after Fringe’s renewal, so I’m leaving Lie to Me on the bubble for now. It’s an in-house production. But for all the talk of its syndication prospects, even a full-season order of 22 episodes would only get it to 70 episodes. Still not enough episodes for a more lucrative deal that involves “stripping.” But it was good for Fox to have around this year when Lone Star failed. Some will say they can just use Fringe for that, but based on how Fox has positioned Fringe, I think Fox really wants to keep it on Fridays. For now, I’m less optimistic for The Chicago Code and much less optimistic for Human Target.
Bob’s Burgers Now on the Bubble
Bob’s Burgers numbers improved last week even though it aired after a repeat of The Simpsons last week. Some have suggested that it would do at least as well as The Cleveland Show if it aired after Family Guy. Perhaps. “Cleveland” has already been renewed along with all the other Sunday animations, so Bob’s Burgers it would only be renewed if it, or one of the other renewed shows is slotted in the 7:30pm slot. But if its ratings are stable (or grow), I could see Fox taking another shot at it.
Perfect Couples Effectively Canceled
Perfect Couples will have some unaired episodes when The Paul Reiser show takes over its time slot on April 14. That spells canceled, just like The Cape, whose finale was available only online, is canceled. But to appease the whiners, both are listed as “Effectively Already Canceled” rather than “Already Canceled.”
Note: only scripted shows that have aired at least one episode are in the table below.
|My Generation||ABC||Already Canceled|
|The Whole Truth||ABC||Already Canceled|
|Life Unexpected||CW||Already Canceled|
|Lone Star||Fox||Already Canceled|
|Running Wilde||Fox||Already Canceled|
|The Good Guys||Fox||Already Canceled|
|Perfect Couples||NBC||Effectively Already Canceled|
|The Cape||NBC||Effectively Already Canceled|
|Detroit 1-8-7||ABC||Certain To Be Canceled|
|No Ordinary Family||ABC||Certain To Be Canceled|
|Off The Map||ABC||Certain To Be Canceled|
|The Defenders||CBS||Certain To Be Canceled|
|Traffic Light||Fox||Certain To Be Canceled|
|The Event||NBC||Certain To Be Canceled|
|Better With You||ABC||Likely To Be Canceled|
|Brothers & Sisters||ABC||Likely To Be Canceled|
|V||ABC||Likely To Be Canceled|
|$#*! My Dad Says||CBS||Likely To Be Canceled|
|Mad Love||CBS||Likely To Be Canceled|
|Human Target||Fox||Likely To Be Canceled|
|The Chicago Code||Fox||Likely To Be Canceled|
|Outsourced||NBC||Likely To Be Canceled|
|Mr. Sunshine||ABC||On The Bubble|
|Blue Bloods||CBS||On The Bubble|
|Criminal Minds: Suspect Behavior||CBS||On The Bubble|
|CSI: Miami||CBS||On The Bubble|
|CSI: NY||CBS||On The Bubble|
|The Good Wife||CBS||On The Bubble|
|Hellcats||CW||On The Bubble|
|Bob’s Burgers||Fox||On The Bubble|
|Lie To Me||Fox||On The Bubble|
|Chuck||NBC||On The Bubble|
|Law & Order: Los Angeles||NBC||On The Bubble|
|Hawaii Five-0||CBS||Likely To Be Renewed|
|Rules of Engagement||CBS||Likely To Be Renewed|
|90210′||CW||Likely To Be Renewed|
|Gossip Girl||CW||Likely To Be Renewed|
|Nikita||CW||Likely To Be Renewed|
|One Tree Hill||CW||Likely To Be Renewed|
|Harry’s Law||NBC||Likely To Be Renewed|
|Parenthood||NBC||Likely To Be Renewed|
|Desperate Housewives||ABC||Certain To Be Renewed|
|Criminal Minds||CBS||Certain To Be Renewed|
|CSI||CBS||Certain To Be Renewed|
|Mike & Molly||CBS||Certain To Be Renewed|
|NCIS: Los Angeles||CBS||Certain To Be Renewed|
|The Mentalist||CBS||Certain To Be Renewed|
|Supernatural||CW||Certain To Be Renewed|
|Vampire Diaries||CW||Certain To Be Renewed|
|Bones||Fox||Certain To Be Renewed|
|House||Fox||Certain To Be Renewed|
|Law & Order: SVU||NBC||Certain To Be Renewed|
|Cougar Town||ABC||Already Renewed|
|Grey’s Anatomy||ABC||Already Renewed|
|Modern Family||ABC||Already Renewed|
|Private Practice||ABC||Already Renewed|
|The Middle||ABC||Already Renewed|
|How I Met Your Mother||CBS||Already Renewed|
|The Big Bang Theory||CBS||Already Renewed|
|American Dad||Fox||Already Renewed|
|Family Guy||Fox||Already Renewed|
|Raising Hope||Fox||Already Renewed|
|The Cleveland Show||Fox||Already Renewed|
|The Simpsons||Fox||Already Renewed|
|30 Rock||NBC||Already Renewed|
|Parks & Recreation||NBC||Already Renewed|
|The Office||NBC||Already Renewed|
|Two and a Half Men||CBS||Already Renewed, But…|