CBS: Sunglasses vs. Sinise, Which Of 'CSI:Miami' Or 'CSI:NY' Gets Canceled? (Poll)

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April 24th, 2012

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Our Renew / Cancel Index predicts potential renewal or cancellation for scripted broadcast primetime shows by the end of the 2011-12 season in May, 2012. (includes results from January 2- April 22, 2012):

Program Status Renew/ Cancel Index
A Gifted Man (F)* :oops: 0.45
NYC 22 :oops: 0.49
CSI:NY (F) :| :| :| 0.57
Blue Bloods (F) renewed 0.58
The Good Wife renewed 0.68
CSI: Miami :| :| :| 0.72
Unforgettable :oops: 0.72
How To Be A Gentleman * canceled 0.74
The Mentalist renewed 0.90
Hawaii Five-0 renewed 0.92
CSI renewed 0.93
Rules of Engagement :| :| :| 1.02
NCIS: Los Angeles renewed 1.02
Criminal Minds renewed 1.07
Rob* :| :| :| 1.07
Person Of Interest renewed 1.08
Mike & Molly renewed 1.14
NCIS renewed 1.24
How I Met Your Mother renewed 1.25
2 Broke Girls renewed 1.33
Two and a Half Men :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: 1.37
Big Bang Theory renewed 1.76

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Bored with the recycling of topics in the CBS renew/cancel posts? Me too. Blame Les Moonves for renewing all those shows early!

To make room for new dramas in next Fall's schedule, CBS will cancel at least one of the CSI offspring (NY or Miami), and maybe both. The conventional wisdom is that if its only one NY goes and Miami stays, but I don't think there's enough behind that conventional wisdom to trust it.

Those imagining that CBS will keep them both with some sort of timeslot share or Saturday timeslot have very vivid imaginations.

What do you think?

More sitcom time could save Rules of Engagement and/or Rob, but without it, they're both likely gone too. Two and a Half Men will be renewed, unless something freakish happens and Ashton Kutcher's salary demands aren't met.

The Renew / Cancel Index above includes results beginning January 2, 2012. How did CBS' shows stack up based on their Fall results? Click here.

*shows no longer on the air have their Renew/Cancel Index "frozen" at the point they left the schedule.

Notes:

  • :oops: - certain to be cancelled by May, 2012
  • :cry: :cry:- more likely to be cancelled than renewed by May, 2012
  • :| :| :| - toss up between renewal or cancellation by May, 2012
  • :) :) :) :) - more likely to be renewed than cancelled by May, 2012
  • :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: - certain to be renewed by May, 2012

The Renew/Cancel Index is the ratio of a scripted show's new episode adults 18-49 ratings relative to the new episode ratings of the other scripted shows on its own network. It's calculated by dividing a show's new episode Live+Same Day adults 18-49 average rating by the Live+Same Day new episode average of all the new scripted show episodes on the show's own network. The network's average ratings in the calculation are not time weighted (ex. hour long shows are not weighted twice what 30 minute shows are).

(F) -Fridays: Shows airing on Fridays were renewed with significantly lower than average Indexes.

How would the Renew / Cancel Index Have Done Predicting Last Season's Scripted Show Fates? Check out how the Renew / Cancel Index predicted renewals and cancellations from the 2010-11 broadcast television season.

 
  • tvfreak

    @One: But I still say CBS should at least attempt one more returning series in that timeslot before giving over to a fall run for UB.

  • court

    CBS last give csi:ny other season It lot better then CSI:Miami. list bill you say make moeny will went keep take way shows fan like ….

  • Ultima

    @Cody
    Read the post their not talking about Saturday

    No, but you were. By suggesting that both CSI spinoffs get final seaons on Friday, CBS would need to schedule a drama on Saturday.

    Assuming no sitcom expansion and Undercover Boss held for midseason, you would still have 11 dramas, 3 hours of sitcoms, 3 hours of new scripted shows, 60 Minutes, Survivor and Amazing Race; that’s 20 hours and there’s only 19 available Sunday through Friday.

    I know CBS is considering Mentalist on Friday, but I would like to see it be a filler in between Survivors.

    An 8-episode run during the holidays?

  • MJDB

    @Bill Gorman

    If it comes down to CBS picking either Rob or Rules of Engagement to renew, which do you think they’d proabably end up renewing come May?

  • Nancy

    Keep Sinese. He’s an actor.

  • http://tvbythenumbers.com Bill Gorman

    “If it comes down to CBS picking either Rob or Rules of Engagement to renew, which do you think they’d proabably end up renewing come May?”

    Most to least likely outcomes, which incorporates my guess that CBS will expand its sitcoms by one hour:

    Most
    1. Rules renewed, Rob canceled.
    2. Both renewed.
    3. Both canceled.
    4. Rob renewed, Rules canceled.
    Least

    If CBS does not expand their sitcom time by an hour, the only likely outcome is both canceled.

  • tvfreak

    @Justin121: I’m sorry but do you really have to advertise Revenge on non-ABC threads?

  • KJ Styles

    CSI NY is dead for certain. It wouldn’t surprise me if they got rid of Miami as well but it has a chance unlike NY.

    Personally, I think NY 22 is a better show than both of them, but it has no chance.

  • http://tvbythenumbers.com Bill Gorman

    “@Justin121: I’m sorry but do you really have to advertise Revenge on non-ABC threads?”

    Agreed. Any more spamming and you’re done here.

  • robby

    @ bob
    i agree with you about the 13 episode final season for both i would like to see that happen but cbs does not see it that way. they will go by the ratings more than likely just like they did a few years ago with without a trace and cold case. and if you remember it was cold case that had the higher ratings without a trace got cancelled and cold case renewed for its 8th season which turned out to be cold cases final season. it will be interesting to see what happens next month.

  • Justin121

    @Bill @tvfreak

    SORRY.

  • hardline_pro

    I find all these comments raging at CSI: Miami, claiming it to be “bad” and “stupid”, hilarious. A show that was once the world’s most watched TV show, and all you see is a man with sunglasses. There is so much more to it. If you had actually taken some time to watch it and see its full potential, you would see it’s actually a lot more original than other shows on TV. Oh, The Good Wife is so original? Plenty of legal dramas out there. But David Caruso had the guts to make a COMPLETELY original and COMPLETELY unique character, with nobody else like him on TV… and you know what? (and this is the part that I LOVE) He succeeded! DAVID CARUSO 4 EVER. :)

  • Justin121

    Most likely outcome

    1- CSI: M renewed
    2- Both renewed
    3- Both cancelled
    4- CSI: NY renewed

    least likely outcome

  • Wombat Watcher

    CSI NY is considerably cheaper to produce than Miami. There above the line is significantly less as are their hard below the line costs. Truth is both shows have patterns that far exceed those of newer dramas but that comes with age. Point is, if the CBS decision were only based on production costs — CSI NY has the advantage. It’s cheaper to make. Both shows have rich syndication deals and both still have strong regional support overseas. Let’s not shed any tears for CBS — they continue to make money hand over fist on both shows. I will say, it’s sad to see people here revel in the cancellation of any show. Please remember that even if you hate a show, there are many hardworking people committed to making it. When a show goes down, those people lose their jobs. The entertainment industry is not all limos and caviar. Yes shows get cancelled all the time. That’s the cycle. But let’s not find joy in people being unemployed.

  • bluejays

    CSI Miami will probably stay. I hate it as I can’t stand Caruso personally but it will stay I think. I kind of hope it does as it has some crazy fans, unlike NY fans who seem adjusted, and they will not stop going on about it for millenia if it gets cancelled (or at least next year).

  • RMH

    I say both get a 13-episode order in case the new dramas fail miserably.

  • bluejays

    @hardline-pro. How is it original? i mean Caruso might have created an original character I’ll give you that, love or hate him he’s made an iconic character. But the show itself? Not original at all. In the slightest.

    I read a funny thing in Esquire a while ago about caruso. asking how the ‘worst actor in the world’ had managed to get a job on a hit show for years. And the critics interviewed made a good point, they said his style might really annoy a lot of people but he has created an unforgettable character. I don’t like it when people slate an actor because its more down to a question of taste rather than an actor being ‘good’ or ‘bad’.

  • http://tvbythenumbers.com Bill Gorman

    “2- Both renewed”

    This alternative has 0% chance of happening unless CBS’s broadcast schedule magically expands above 21 hours.

  • William

    why not just do final half season orders for both and air one in fall and one in spring? Is that likely?

  • Ultima

    @William
    why not just do final half season orders for both and air one in fall and one in spring? Is that likely?

    No, because one is very likely to be more profitable than the other in which case they’d give a full-ish season to the former and cancel the latter.

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