CBS: Sunglasses vs. Sinise, Which Of 'CSI:Miami' Or 'CSI:NY' Gets Canceled? (Poll)

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April 24th, 2012

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Our Renew / Cancel Index predicts potential renewal or cancellation for scripted broadcast primetime shows by the end of the 2011-12 season in May, 2012. (includes results from January 2- April 22, 2012):

Program Status Renew/ Cancel Index
A Gifted Man (F)* :oops: 0.45
NYC 22 :oops: 0.49
CSI:NY (F) :| :| :| 0.57
Blue Bloods (F) renewed 0.58
The Good Wife renewed 0.68
CSI: Miami :| :| :| 0.72
Unforgettable :oops: 0.72
How To Be A Gentleman * canceled 0.74
The Mentalist renewed 0.90
Hawaii Five-0 renewed 0.92
CSI renewed 0.93
Rules of Engagement :| :| :| 1.02
NCIS: Los Angeles renewed 1.02
Criminal Minds renewed 1.07
Rob* :| :| :| 1.07
Person Of Interest renewed 1.08
Mike & Molly renewed 1.14
NCIS renewed 1.24
How I Met Your Mother renewed 1.25
2 Broke Girls renewed 1.33
Two and a Half Men :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: 1.37
Big Bang Theory renewed 1.76

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Bored with the recycling of topics in the CBS renew/cancel posts? Me too. Blame Les Moonves for renewing all those shows early!

To make room for new dramas in next Fall's schedule, CBS will cancel at least one of the CSI offspring (NY or Miami), and maybe both. The conventional wisdom is that if its only one NY goes and Miami stays, but I don't think there's enough behind that conventional wisdom to trust it.

Those imagining that CBS will keep them both with some sort of timeslot share or Saturday timeslot have very vivid imaginations.

What do you think?

More sitcom time could save Rules of Engagement and/or Rob, but without it, they're both likely gone too. Two and a Half Men will be renewed, unless something freakish happens and Ashton Kutcher's salary demands aren't met.

The Renew / Cancel Index above includes results beginning January 2, 2012. How did CBS' shows stack up based on their Fall results? Click here.

*shows no longer on the air have their Renew/Cancel Index "frozen" at the point they left the schedule.

Notes:

  • :oops: - certain to be cancelled by May, 2012
  • :cry: :cry:- more likely to be cancelled than renewed by May, 2012
  • :| :| :| - toss up between renewal or cancellation by May, 2012
  • :) :) :) :) - more likely to be renewed than cancelled by May, 2012
  • :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: - certain to be renewed by May, 2012

The Renew/Cancel Index is the ratio of a scripted show's new episode adults 18-49 ratings relative to the new episode ratings of the other scripted shows on its own network. It's calculated by dividing a show's new episode Live+Same Day adults 18-49 average rating by the Live+Same Day new episode average of all the new scripted show episodes on the show's own network. The network's average ratings in the calculation are not time weighted (ex. hour long shows are not weighted twice what 30 minute shows are).

(F) -Fridays: Shows airing on Fridays were renewed with significantly lower than average Indexes.

How would the Renew / Cancel Index Have Done Predicting Last Season's Scripted Show Fates? Check out how the Renew / Cancel Index predicted renewals and cancellations from the 2010-11 broadcast television season.

 
  • JJF

    I say can both. Both were underperforming this year. CBS needs room for new dramas. Miama didn’t end on a cliffhanger, I understand. So no worries on pulling it now. They need to clean some house and can both.

  • tvfreak

    @Justin121: If you wanna advertise Revenge, use the quote from 2 Broke Girls mentioning it (SJ said 2BG made a Revenge reference at some point).

    THE MENTALIST – 15
    PERSON OF INTEREST – 32 (-2) (Don’t get the wrong idea, I had to. :( )
    NCIS – 6 (+2)
    HOW I MET YOUR MOTHER – 41 (-3)
    THE BIG BANG THEORY – 100 (+3) WE HAVE A VICTOR!

    Next person to play, remove TBBT from the list, please. Now it is time to eliminate all other shows and determine which one will face off against TBBT for the status of ultimate winner!

    Eliminated:

    20. The Good Wife (4-12, 9:35am)
    19. Unforgettable (4-12, 12:14pm)
    18. Rob (4-12, 9:04pm)
    17. Two and a Half Men (4-13, 8:24am)
    16. A Gifted Man (4-13, 12:04pm)
    15. Criminal Minds (4-13, 3:00pm)
    14. CSI: Miami (4-13, 3:00pm)
    13. 2 Broke Girls (4-13, 5:22pm)
    12. CSI: NY (4-14, 4:30pm)
    11. Rules of Engagement (4-14, 8:40 pm)
    10. Blue Bloods (4-15, 2:48pm)
    9. NCIS: Los Angeles (4-15, 4:05pm)
    8. CSI (4-16, 9:03am)
    7. Hawaii Five-0 (4-18, 9:29am)
    6. Mike & Molly (4-18, 4:28pm)

    Victor’s Village:
    1. The Big Bang Theory (4-24, 4:23pm)

    From NCIS: Los Angeles episode 2.09 “Absolution” –
    French Intelligence Operative: Federal agents! Don’t move!
    Deeks: LAPD!
    French Intelligence Operative: NSA!
    Kensi: NCIS!
    Deeks: M O U S E!
    [Everyone flashes badges and then puts their guns away]
    French Intelligence Operative: What are you doing here?
    Kensi: This is our case.
    French Intelligence Operative: Sebastian Renner was a foreign national with information considered a threat to the United States of America.
    Kensi: Still our case.
    French Intelligence Operative: We don’t have to be adversaries, after all we are on the same side. Perhaps we can work together. Have you found anything that might be….[Kensi kicks him in the 'nads]
    Deeks: WHOA!!!!!! [Kensi then knees the guy's face and Deeks fights with the guy's partner and wins by body slaming him into a table leaving the partner unconscious] What are you doing? You heard the guy! We’re on the same side!!
    Kensi: I’m pretty sure they’re not NSA.
    Deeks: Pretty sure? Because you teed off on him like you were kicking a field goal!
    Kensi: Deeks! I’ve got a hunch they’re foreign operatives, ok?
    Deeks: A hunch! You don’t kick a guy in his junk on a hunch. Geez! Sometimes I don’t even know you! Who does that?

  • hardline_pro

    @bluejays – Um, it was one of the first cop shows that are still on CBS today. All the other shows just copy from CSI and Law and Order, combining elements from both shows…

    And if you think David Caruso is a bad actor then you obviously haven’t seen NYPD Blue…

  • MS

    Honestly, and no disrespect to the NY fans, but NY should be going. This current season was NY’s second chance and they failed to perform any better than last year. What’s more, the season finale of NY was written to give the fans and show closure, Miami’s season finale was not. For Miami, there are many loose ends that still need to be tied up and the fans deserve proper closure after 10 years on the air. Miami continues to perform well on a night with HUGE delays and places well in the demos and was given a syndication deal with AMC up to season 12. It’s Miami’s turn to have a second chance and be given a proper final season send off.

  • steve

    Id Like NY to stay and Miami to go but think itll be miami to get a final season of 13 episodes and NY bye bye

  • Alli

    Can’t stand Sela Ward. I seriously can’t stand her. I hope to see both shows return, but only because I’,m not going to say cancel someone else’s show. I love all of the characters on CSINY and could take Sela Ward if she was on a lot less. She’s over the top crazy, but the rest of the cast honestly couldn’t be better.

  • Alli

    MS, to some point I agree, but that’s the fault of CSI Miami writers. They should have written a better ending. I doubt it would fare better on Fridays. And if CBS wanted a demo bathing in facebook followers and Neilson 20 year olds they should have cast a woman 20 year olds relate to and put it on a night where the mass of facebook followers are watching television.

  • MS

    Alli, i agree its completely the writers’ fault, but thats not to say they shouldnt be given a chance to redeem themselves…and I have to say I completely disagree that women cant relate to Calleigh/Emily (if thats who you mean)…she’s incredibly smart, strong and a great character…I’m 26 and I along with many others can relate to her…she’s been my and many others fav since ssn 1 and i wouldnt dream of having them cast anyone else

  • Nick

    THE MENTALIST – 13 (-2)
    PERSON OF INTEREST – 35 (+3)
    NCIS – 3 (-3)
    HOW I MET YOUR MOTHER – 42 (+2)

  • Michael

    Bill, shouldn’t CSI:Miami have an asterix next to it?

  • TVDude

    I wouldn’t be shocked if both CSI’s got canceled, but I think Miami is more likely to stick around between the two.

    Technically speaking, Rob and Rules should both be canceled. Their ratings are both noticeably below the other comedies. I think if either sticks around, it’ll be Rules, but not because of ratings, but because Sony wants more episodes and gives it to CBS for another small order. From what I’ve heard, Rules is still in the running for another season, so I wouldn’t give up hope yet. It really will come down to the pilots and how confident CBS is in them.

  • Hugh

    I think there’s a 75% chance of renewal for Miami.

    And a 45% chance that NY will be picked up, possibly for a short season.

  • Sayo

    Miami has been hard to watch b/c the timeslot they’re in but they should’ve just gotten it over with and canceled NY long ago and put Miami in its timeslot! NY’s timeslot is better but Miami is the better show. It’s even better than the original was back when it was actually popular.

  • The Other Tony

    I still don’t understand why people are so gung-ho about CBS moving The Mentalist to Fridays at 9pm? It’s only finishing its fourth season, and I doubt CBS would get three more seasons out of it on Fridays.

    If any veteran show would be a logical choice to move to Fridays at 9, it would be The Good Wife.

  • Jon

    I love CSI Miami and the original CSI because of the characters. I never did like NY, as the show seems much less interesting, and the characters are often dull and cold, especially Sineese.

  • Justin121

    “2- Both renewed”

    “This alternative has 0% chance of happening unless CBS’s broadcast schedule magically expands above 21 hours”

    I know CBS doesn’t do timeshare but I thought they might make an exception to the CSI family. They also don’t do final seasons but again I think the flagship franchise gets that treatment.

    @tvfreak,

    I didn’t see @SJ’s comment. Where was that? I’ll have to catch up on 2 Broke Girls. I think it’s cool when CBS/NBC shows refrence shows that are on another network. It comes off more realistic than the cross-pormotion-only nonesense (i.e, only refrencing shows on the same network).

  • tvfreak

    @Justin121: It was actually on the ABC thread.

  • Kay

    Keep both of the shows their both better then NY 222, Unforgettable and Gifted Man!!!!!

  • Liz

    @The Other Tony

    I still don’t understand why people are so gung-ho about CBS moving The Mentalist to Fridays at 9pm? It’s only finishing its fourth season, and I doubt CBS would get three more seasons out of it on Fridays.

    The new episode that aired on Fridays a few weeks ago got a 2.0 with not much promotion. There’s no reason that with an advertised time slot change over the summer, it couldn’t easily match or exceed CSI:NY’s numbers on Friday. Not to mention that Ghost Whisperer ran, what, five years on Fridays? And Blue Bloods is going to run at least four.

    For this kind of show, Friday isn’t the death sentence that you seem to think it is.

  • Steven O.

    CSI Miami is the one that should go. CSI NY actually pulls in pretty good demos for a Friday night times slot. CSI Miami has been very cartoonish with Scooby-Doo storylines and predictable plots with little suprise. CSI-NY is actually more realistic than Miami. I don’t know too many labs that can afford holograms and all touch displays like they use in Sci-Fy Miami.

    The plots in CSI-NY have been far more realistic and Sinse is a far more realistic character than Horatio who seems to pause for colorful tags lines. CBS would be better off to get rid of both in the end. There’s more than enough episodes of each drama to fulfill any syndication deal.

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