CBS: Sunglasses vs. Sinise, Which Of 'CSI:Miami' Or 'CSI:NY' Gets Canceled? (Poll)

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April 24th, 2012

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Our Renew / Cancel Index predicts potential renewal or cancellation for scripted broadcast primetime shows by the end of the 2011-12 season in May, 2012. (includes results from January 2- April 22, 2012):

Program Status Renew/ Cancel Index
A Gifted Man (F)* :oops: 0.45
NYC 22 :oops: 0.49
CSI:NY (F) :| :| :| 0.57
Blue Bloods (F) renewed 0.58
The Good Wife renewed 0.68
CSI: Miami :| :| :| 0.72
Unforgettable :oops: 0.72
How To Be A Gentleman * canceled 0.74
The Mentalist renewed 0.90
Hawaii Five-0 renewed 0.92
CSI renewed 0.93
Rules of Engagement :| :| :| 1.02
NCIS: Los Angeles renewed 1.02
Criminal Minds renewed 1.07
Rob* :| :| :| 1.07
Person Of Interest renewed 1.08
Mike & Molly renewed 1.14
NCIS renewed 1.24
How I Met Your Mother renewed 1.25
2 Broke Girls renewed 1.33
Two and a Half Men :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: 1.37
Big Bang Theory renewed 1.76

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Bored with the recycling of topics in the CBS renew/cancel posts? Me too. Blame Les Moonves for renewing all those shows early!

To make room for new dramas in next Fall's schedule, CBS will cancel at least one of the CSI offspring (NY or Miami), and maybe both. The conventional wisdom is that if its only one NY goes and Miami stays, but I don't think there's enough behind that conventional wisdom to trust it.

Those imagining that CBS will keep them both with some sort of timeslot share or Saturday timeslot have very vivid imaginations.

What do you think?

More sitcom time could save Rules of Engagement and/or Rob, but without it, they're both likely gone too. Two and a Half Men will be renewed, unless something freakish happens and Ashton Kutcher's salary demands aren't met.

The Renew / Cancel Index above includes results beginning January 2, 2012. How did CBS' shows stack up based on their Fall results? Click here.

*shows no longer on the air have their Renew/Cancel Index "frozen" at the point they left the schedule.

Notes:

  • :oops: - certain to be cancelled by May, 2012
  • :cry: :cry:- more likely to be cancelled than renewed by May, 2012
  • :| :| :| - toss up between renewal or cancellation by May, 2012
  • :) :) :) :) - more likely to be renewed than cancelled by May, 2012
  • :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: - certain to be renewed by May, 2012

The Renew/Cancel Index is the ratio of a scripted show's new episode adults 18-49 ratings relative to the new episode ratings of the other scripted shows on its own network. It's calculated by dividing a show's new episode Live+Same Day adults 18-49 average rating by the Live+Same Day new episode average of all the new scripted show episodes on the show's own network. The network's average ratings in the calculation are not time weighted (ex. hour long shows are not weighted twice what 30 minute shows are).

(F) -Fridays: Shows airing on Fridays were renewed with significantly lower than average Indexes.

How would the Renew / Cancel Index Have Done Predicting Last Season's Scripted Show Fates? Check out how the Renew / Cancel Index predicted renewals and cancellations from the 2010-11 broadcast television season.

 
  • John A

    Its so mean to cancel any CSI without a proper announcement. I think Medium was the only CBS show to get a proper announcement.

  • John A

    I just dont see Rules being renewed when its episode order was cut. I wonder where TGW will be next season? Im guessing friday?

  • http://tvbythenumbers.com Bill Gorman

    “I wonder where TGW will be next season? Im guessing friday?”

    My guess is either 8pm Friday or 10pm Sunday. Although if CSI:Miami is renewed I could see Sunday night staying as it is for another Fall. CBS will put it where it will do the least ratings damage to the rest of their schedule.

  • Chief

    I voted for both but if I had to make a choice I would keep Miami. I like it a little better but I think they should both go. They are getting very stale. In fact, I don’t watch NY anymore anyway. What I can’t figure out is if CBS is in the business of making money why do they keep TGW and Bue Bloods which both have terrible ratings. For fans of these shows this is not an attack on those shows, I am merely writing about ratings.

  • SailorPsy

    Shouldn’t CSI: Miami have its index frozen with an asterisk by it (since it has left the schedule)?

  • Gregg

    Would it be economically feasible to keep both shows but order just 13-15 episodes each and have them share a timeslot? That way, CBS has a gauranteed 26-30 new episodes to pad out their schedule without exhausting either cast/crew of the shows, plus they’d have a nice variety for fans. Maybe run one in Fall and the other in Spring, or mix them up together; kind of a CSI Variety Pack.

    That would take care of a single “problem” timeslot. They’ll know what kind of rating to expect here, so they can concentrate their efforts on shoring up some other weakness in their schedule.

  • The Other Tony

    @ Liz

    Thank you — you’re the first person who actually gave a rating/number for TM’s Friday outing from several weeks back…I was wondering how it had done at the special day & time there.

    I suppose it’s not out of the realm of possibility for The Mentalist to potentially improve over CSI:NY’s numbers, although I do wonder how compatible it would be leading into Blue Bloods? The Mentalist would probably be cheaper, overall (at least, for the near future), than CSI:NY is, so I suppose it has that going for it too.

  • RISE ABOVE HATE

    “not to “make everyone happy”.

    And your how old.

    CBS is a business to make money yes. Its also a business where they wanna see the CBS Network fan base happy as well.

    You remind me of a guy that doesn’t even know what he is even talking about and just wants some attention from his comments

    Grow up dude. Everything you say are rumors anyways.

    CSI Miami is going to be renewed who knows about CSI New York.

    If you notice in Season 10 finale. It was all around Ryan Wolf and Samantha Cole.

    Caine was hardly even in the finale. CBS Wouldn’t want it to go out that way. They would have went out on another limb

    Season 11 is going to be based around Cailligh and Eric getting married and becoming a family with Caine as Eric’s best man.

    Really dude…Dont you know anything. They left it open. and besides. They sure as wouldn’t end the series in a freaking bar drinking. They would have ended it a totally different way.

  • RISE ABOVE HATE

    My guess is either 8pm Friday or 10pm Sunday. Although if CSI:Miami is renewed I could see Sunday night staying as it is for another Fall. CBS will put it where it will do the least ratings damage to the rest of their schedule.”

    It will go to Friday Nights.

  • Montecore

    I would prefer both shows since they are an insult to crime scene investigators!

  • Rebecca

    THE MENTALIST – 11 (-2)
    PERSON OF INTEREST – 37 (+2)
    NCIS – 0 (-3) eliminated, sorry fans – had to do it
    HOW I MET YOUR MOTHER – 45 (+3)

    quote from HIMYM [7.15]:
    Robin: It’s like Sun Tzu said, “Never give up. Never surrender.”
    Ted: That’s Tim Allen from “Galaxy Quest.”

  • Rebecca

    Next person who votes can take NCIS off the list…and now I guess we’ll just be voting +3 and -3 since there are just three shows left on the list.

  • David Howell

    I think Miami will stay because an unannounced series finale for a long-running show is one thing, but an unannounced series finale at practically 11pm ET is quite another.

    Cancelling NY will lead to less flak. It goes, unless the international syndication economics mean it makes financial sense to do one final season airing on Saturday nights in the US purely as an international money-maker. Which I *presume* it doesn’t, but we all know CBS is all about the syndication dollars…

  • nikita

    2 broke girls was renewed? I saw like 1 episode and then it never came on again. That one episode wasn’t all that great either.

  • Riff Rafferty

    I’m ready to say goodbye to “NY” and I was ready to say goodbye to “Miami” on Day 1.

    Wouldn’t surprise me if neither one returns but if “Miami” returns, I fully expect it to be on Saturdays. And of course if it does return, the cast and crew should all chip in to send gift baskets to AMC for saving it.

  • MJDB

    Here’s what I think will be renewed and cancelled:

    Renewed:

    CSI: Miami (Final Season)
    Rob
    Two and a Half Men

    Cancelled:

    A Gifted Man
    CSI: NY
    How to Be a Gentleman
    Rules of Engagement
    Unforgettable

    I think that Rob will get renewed for many reasons that no one is looking at:

    1. Higher ratings than Rules of Engagement.
    2. A chance to grow with more promotion.
    3. Has had a 3.3. demo average, while RoE is like 2.9-3.1 at best (as a SEASON whole)
    4. To Rob, the BBT lead-in makes it stronger, but RoE is always the same (weak) with the lead-in.
    5. Sure, the 2 most recent episodes of Rob didn’g have terrific ratings, but RoE is getting one or two tenths less than that steady.
    6. Rob was up against Idol all that time (with the exception of the pilot), imagine what its ratings could be at 9:30 with less competition?
    7.Rules already has enough for syndication, as channels don’t care if it’s one or a couple off (ex. Till Death). Rules has already had its chance to grow, while Rob has a bright future ahead.

    Two and a Half Men will certainly get renewed, (I was a little worried when it wasn’t on the early renewal list), because Ashton and Co. have to sign their contracts. I don’t like any of the CSIs, but I think that they’ll give a final season renewal to Miami due to higher ratings, and a better syndication deal. Also, I think that next year will be How I Met Your Mother’s last, as the ratings aren’t great. It’s funny actually, because none of the CBS shows I watch were on that mega-renewal list (I only watch in primetime Rob and Two and a Half Men). That is my belief.

  • Linda E.

    I hope CSI-NY stays. Gary Sinise and company are a lot easier to take than Caruso.

  • Nadine

    Isn’t it time to get ride of these?? CSN Miami particularly, has been sooooo creaky for years…. isn’t everyone just so tired of Caruso’s endless vamping?

  • TVDude

    “Rob will get renewed for many reasons that no one is looking at”

    No one is looking at those because Rules isn’t the show for Rob to compare itself to. If Rules gets renewed, it’s because of syndication. If Rules only had 7 episodes, I think CBS would cancel it without question. So, let’s pretend Rules only has seven episodes. Is a show in cancellation territory really something you want to compare your show to? Probably not.

    Rob needs to be able to compare its self to The Big Bang Theory, Two Broke Girls, Two and a Half Men, How I Met Your Mother, and, to a smaller extent, Mike and Molly. AND it falls short compared to those. Rules does too, but it has something aside from ratings to rely on (is that enough?, idk).

    If renewed, it’s unlikely that Rob will grow. Could it? Of course. Will it? Unlikely. It’ll probably do about the same. BUT, without Rules to throw trash at, where will that put Rob next spring when it’s time to renew or cancel? Then CBS wasted money on an entire season when they could have found a new hit or got Rules on the cheap.

    My point is, I wouldn’t hold my breath for Rob’s renewal. I wouldn’t be necessarily shocked if it came back, but I would be surprised if it came back instead of Rules (for the reasons I already stated). Rules doesn’t rate better, but if it comes back, it’ll be a lot cheaper.

  • hardline_pro

    As a CSI fan I want another crossover event between all 3 shows. Too bad it probably won’t happen again. :(

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