FOX: If 'Fringe' Is Renewed Here Are 7 Reasons That Had Nothing To Do With It

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April 24th, 2012

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Our Renew / Cancel Index predicts potential renewal or cancellation for scripted broadcast primetime shows by the end of the 2011-12 season in May, 2012. (includes results from January 2- April 22, 2012):

Program Status Renew/ Cancel Index
Fringe (F) :| :| :| 0.50
I Hate My Teenage Daughter* canceled 0.61
Breaking In canceled 0.66
The Cleveland Show renewed 0.67
Allen Gregory * canceled 0.72
The Finder (part F) :oops: 0.86
Raising Hope renewed 0.87
Bob's Burgers :| :| :| 0.88
Terra Nova * canceled 0.90
Alcatraz* :cry: :cry: 0.93
American Dad renewed 0.97
Napoleon Dynamite* :| :| :| 1.06
Bones renewed 1.05
House final season 1.10
The Simpsons renewed 1.23
Touch :) :) :) :) 1.27
New Girl renewed 1.35
Glee renewed 1.37
Family Guy renewed 1.39

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4/26 Update: Fringe renewed for a final 13 episode season.
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My partner in crime disagrees, but, as I have all season, I still have Fringe as a "toss up" for cancellation or renewal because of the ways syndication, or even *potential* syndication can effect the "normal" decision making process.

However, if Fringe is renewed, I'm sure fans will trumpet a variety of reasons why it happened, and FOX's formal and informal PR apparatus will do its best to reinforce some of those reasons, here are some reasons that will have had nothing to do with it:

  • Fox executives love the show! They love all their shows, even the ones they cancel.
  • Fox wants scripted shows on Friday! Right up until they announce a schedule with no scripted shows on Friday. Fox wants to make money on Friday's, they'll do that the best way they can at the time. The "We want scripted shows on Friday" is convenient Hollywood-friendly PR while they still *have* scripted shows on Friday.
  • Fox can't get any better ratings on Fridays! Tell that to Gordon Ramsay.
  • Fringe fans make people listen. They make people take notice. Have loud voices and are heard  That's just producer cheerleading. The only things that Fox execs "listen" to from the fans are the ratings.
  • The critics love Fringe! Lone Star.
  • It has great increases in DVR viewing! Big increases from a tiny base still equal tiny totals, compared to other Fox shows.
  • Anna Torv is tangentially related to Rupert Murdoch! Rupert Murdoch would cancel a show starring his mother if the numbers didn't add up.

What will be the real reason Fringe gets renewed if it happens? As I noted two weeks ago:

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Bonus update: Photo replaced with a screen cap from a syndicated airing of 'Til Death. Yes, doubters, if a ratings loser like 'Til Death can be syndicated, so can Fringe!
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The Renew / Cancel Index above includes results beginning January 2, 2012. How did FOX's shows stack up based on their Fall results? Click here.

*shows no longer on the air have their Renew/Cancel Index "frozen" at the point they left the schedule.

Notes:

  • :oops: - certain to be cancelled by May, 2012
  • :cry: :cry:- more likely to be cancelled than renewed by May, 2012
  • :| :| :| - toss up between renewal or cancellation by May, 2012
  • :) :) :) :) - more likely to be renewed than cancelled by May, 2012
  • :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: - certain to be renewed by May, 2012

The Renew/Cancel Index is the ratio of a scripted show's new episode adults 18-49 ratings relative to the new episode ratings of the other scripted shows on its own network. It's calculated by dividing a show's new episode Live+Same Day adults 18-49 average rating by the Live+Same Day new episode average of all the new scripted show episodes on the show's own network. The network's average ratings in the calculation are not time weighted (ex. hour long shows are not weighted twice what 30 minute shows are).

(F) -Fridays: Shows airing on Fridays were renewed with significantly lower than average Indexes.

How would the Renew / Cancel Index Have Done Predicting Last Season's Scripted Show Fates? Check out how the Renew / Cancel Index predicted renewals and cancellations from the 2010-11 broadcast television season.

 
  • PeterB

    lol idiot

  • were123

    FRINGE RENEWED!!!
    Take that Richard, you called me delusional! But I was right all along >=D

  • hcir

    Fringe just got renewed for a 13 episode 5th season! To all Fringe haters – suck it!

  • Meliwa

    Bill, you forgot one more reason Fox renewing Fringe–the ratings for most of their other new scripted shows (such as Alcatraz) sucked so badly, they had to have SOMETHING to fit in a time slot.

  • Meliwa

    @hcir–if it was actually big enough to suck, you wouldn’t have to command it.

  • hcir

    @Meliwa…disparage me as much as you want…I will enjoy my fifth season of Fringe.

  • Hustis Harper

    FRINGE – 71 (+3)
    RAISING HOPE – 22 (+2)
    ALCATRAZ – 34 (-2)
    TOUCH – 30 (-3)

    I guess Warner Brothers gave away Fringe for free. HALLELUJAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • Ultima

    @James
    As Fringe-renewed was trending worldwide,i thought id encourage the fans to drop by and chew the cud with Bill.”Ratings are all that matters” Whats happened here then?

    Congratulations goes to Bill for winning the “career ending article” award.
    You could change it to “7 reasons why Fringe was renewed” and then pretend it all goes away.

    See, this is why I never buy the “it’s too smart” excuse for shows. If an idiot like James can follow Fringe…

  • Mickey 1.0

    Here’s a video to help Fringe fans celebrate. (I haven’t watched it as it will surely contain spoilers for previously aired episodes, and I’m only on season 2.)

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gvWqOZL8JXA&feature=youtu.be

    @James
    Congratulations goes to Bill for winning the “career ending article” award.
    You could change it to “7 reasons why Fringe was renewed” and then pretend it all goes away.

    Bill is the one who has consistently said there is an equal chance Fringe would be renewed even though all the numbers said it was sure to be cancelled. And his article didn’t say “7 Reasons Why ‘Fringe’ Won’t Be Renewed.” It said “If ‘Fringe’ Is Renewed Here Are 7 Reasons That Had Nothing To Do With It.”

    Those are two entirely different things.

  • Fabio

    Hey fringe haters…can you dig it, suckaaaa??

  • http://tvbythenumbers.com Bill Gorman

    “As Fringe-renewed was trending worldwide,i thought id encourage the fans to drop by and chew the cud with Bill.”Ratings are all that matters” Whats happened here then? A Fringe event?

    A syndication related event as this post explains, that’s why I had the show predicted as a “toss up” all season, but perhaps that was a bit too complicated for you to understand.

    But thanks for sending your friends here.

  • http://tvbythenumbers.com Bill Gorman

    “Congratulations goes to Bill for winning the “career ending article” award.
    You could change it to “7 reasons why Fringe was renewed” and then pretend it all goes away.”

    Hardly. I was correct, Warner Brothers went low enough in their fee to make it worth Fox’s while. You were just (and still are) very confused. None of those 7 silly reasons mattered to the renewal,

  • tj

    already been renewed lol

    shows how much writer of this knows

  • alcalde

    “TVBTN may be factoring in the financial power of a fourth season for syndication in its predictions now, but I predict myself that soon they will need to factor a strange, unexplained culinary connection into the prediction process.”

    “That’s what I like. Out of the (lunch)box thinking!” -Bill

    Thank you, and the food factor has now achieved a (so scary I’m starting to actually believe it) 100% success rate! :-)

  • Stephen

    @ Bill

    Hardly. I was correct, Warner Brothers went low enough in their fee to make it worth Fox’s while. You were just (and still are) very confused. None of those 7 silly reasons mattered to the renewal

    With all due respect, this is about the most generic statement I have read on the internet in quite some time. You could caveat any cancellation prediction with the “but if the studio goes low enough in their fees…” and always be technically correct. Obviously, there is a fee even for a show like the Big Bang Theory where CBS would simply walk away. Basic economics.

    More to the point, though, do you have any real proof that WB lowered their fees substantially for season 5, or do you think this because it is the only explanation that fits into your viewpoint? Because personally, while the (short-term) economics is an important part of the equation, I believe there were probably several other factors that went into the decision as well.

  • Cory

    One good thing about this being announced as a final season is that I can look forward to fewer delusional Fringe fans ranting about their show next year and we can finally change the discussion to something worthwhile.

    Well, I guess the party will have to wait until next year. No, wait, I can still throw a “Fringe is finally coming to an end … next season” party.

    Also, to everyone ragging on Bill and TVBTN, it has been listed as a “toss up” all season which means it could have gone either way. There was no incorrect prediction on the part of Bill or TVBTN as everyone would like to think.

    @Bill Good job with the delusion fan poking! It has been very entertaining indeed.

  • Cory

    FRINGE – 68 (-3)
    RAISING HOPE – 24 (+2)
    ALCATRAZ – 37 (+3)
    TOUCH – 28 (-2)

  • Dennis

    Best television show ever created.
    Such high quality.
    fringe . :)

    FRINGE – 71 (+3)
    RAISING HOPE – 22 (-2)
    ALCATRAZ – 34 (-3)
    TOUCH – 30 (+2)

  • Hoose

    Lot of finger pointing at Bill for some reason, not sure why since I never saw him call it as anything other than toss-up.

    Now if only Alcatraz could garner a miracle renewal, it’d be a perfect viewing season for me to look forward to.

  • Mickey 1.0

    @Cory
    One good thing about this being announced as a final season

    Ah, that’s what I wanted to know. I’ve been stalled on the premiere of season 2, waiting to see if it would get a proper ending or not. Now that there’s an official final season, I can keep watching. Didn’t want it to be this Chuck-like thing where it keeps getting renewed 13-eps to 13-eps. The Chuck writers did a commendable job for a long time keeping the flow and pacing and storylines going in those tough conditions, except for the final 13 (imo). Better to go out with a well-written story in a defined time frame.

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