CBS: 'Rules Of Engagement' & 'Rob' Getting Canceled Or Renewed Likely Depends On More CBS Sitcom Time

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May 1st, 2012

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Our Renew / Cancel Index predicts potential renewal or cancellation for scripted broadcast primetime shows by the end of the 2011-12 season in May, 2012. (includes results from January 2- April 29, 2012):

Program Status Renew/ Cancel Index
A Gifted Man (F)* :oops: 0.45
NYC 22 :oops: 0.47
CSI:NY (F) :| :| :| 0.57
Blue Bloods (F) renewed 0.58
The Good Wife* renewed 0.68
CSI: Miami :| :| :| 0.73
Unforgettable :oops: 0.73
How To Be A Gentleman * canceled 0.74
The Mentalist renewed 0.90
Hawaii Five-0 renewed 0.93
CSI renewed 0.94
Rules of Engagement :| :| :| 1.02
NCIS: Los Angeles renewed 1.03
Person Of Interest renewed 1.06
Rob* :| :| :| 1.07
Criminal Minds renewed 1.08
Mike & Molly renewed 1.15
NCIS renewed 1.25
How I Met Your Mother renewed 1.27
2 Broke Girls renewed 1.35
Two and a Half Men :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: 1.39
Big Bang Theory renewed 1.75

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Nobody's happier than I am that the recycling of CBS topics and headlines in this weekly post is over after this week.

While I can imagine a scenario where CBS doesn't expand its sitcom time and Rules of Engagement gets renewed, I don't think that's a likely scenario. If CBS doesn't expand its sitcom time, I think it's likely that both Rules and Rob are canceled.

However if CBS does expand its sitcom time by an hour (which seems likely but not certain) then these are the outcomes I see in order of their decreasing likelihood.

  • Rules is renewed. Rob is canceled.
  • Both are renewed.
  • Both are canceled.
  • Rob is renewed. Rules is canceled. I view this as highly unlikely.

To make room for new dramas in next Fall's schedule, CBS will cancel at least one of the CSI offspring (NY or Miami), and maybe both. The conventional wisdom is that if its only one NY goes and Miami stays, but I don't think there's enough behind that conventional wisdom to trust it.

This is the last "regular" CBS Renew/Cancel Index post of the 2011-12 season. Next week Robert and I combine for our annual "Oddsmakers" final predictions for the season.

The Renew / Cancel Index above includes results beginning January 2, 2012. How did CBS' shows stack up based on their Fall results? Click here.

*shows no longer on the air have their Renew/Cancel Index "frozen" at the point they left the schedule.

Notes:

  • :oops: - certain to be cancelled by May, 2012
  • :cry: :cry:- more likely to be cancelled than renewed by May, 2012
  • :| :| :| - toss up between renewal or cancellation by May, 2012
  • :) :) :) :) - more likely to be renewed than cancelled by May, 2012
  • :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: - certain to be renewed by May, 2012

The Renew/Cancel Index is the ratio of a scripted show's new episode adults 18-49 ratings relative to the new episode ratings of the other scripted shows on its own network. It's calculated by dividing a show's new episode Live+Same Day adults 18-49 average rating by the Live+Same Day new episode average of all the new scripted show episodes on the show's own network. The network's average ratings in the calculation are not time weighted (ex. hour long shows are not weighted twice what 30 minute shows are).

(F) -Fridays: Shows airing on Fridays were renewed with significantly lower than average Indexes.

How would the Renew / Cancel Index Have Done Predicting Last Season's Scripted Show Fates? Check out how the Renew / Cancel Index predicted renewals and cancellations from the 2010-11 broadcast television season.

 
  • KJ Styles

    @Jens2488- I disagree with you. Besides, why does every show on a network have to be from the same cookie cutter? CBS doesn’t care about that. All they care about is ratings and Over & Out will at least perform well initially given Martin Lawrence’s popularity. If they air it after TBBT, I believe it’ll be a hit easily.

    And Deadline pilot buzz means absolutely NOTHING. Terra Nova, Prime Suspect, and Pan-Am got early buzz as well and they all got cancelled. I will give Over & Out a chance. It’s good seeing Martin back on TV. Like I said before, I don’t expect it to be as good as his FOX sitcom was, but I’m sure it’ll be worth watching.

  • Liz

    @KJ Styles

    And Deadline pilot buzz means absolutely NOTHING. Terra Nova, Prime Suspect, and Pan-Am got early buzz as well and they all got cancelled.

    Not that I disagree with you about Deadline, but their “buzz” is supposed to be about what’s going to get picked up, not what’s going to be picked up and then be a smash hit. All the shows you listed got picked up.

  • jens2488

    @ KJ Styles

    Of course not everyhting has to be the same, but CBS is the network that makes the least changes. We talk about the procedural network. Like I said it may be picked up, but there seems to be not much buzz, which does not mean that there is none. Maybe it was filmed late. Like Liz said I am not talking about how succesful shows will be, but which shows will be picked up, because that is the first step if being succesful.

    I never said that Martin Lawrence is not talented, I just do not like the premise of the show. Martin Lawrence may be a star, but a big name alone canot carry a show (in most cases). All the things you say about Over and Out could have been said about Rob!. Rob Schneider is a big name, it aired after TBBT and did fare initially very well, but faded.

  • ProViewershipNumbers

    Sunday
    7 60 MINUTES
    8 Ben Falcone/Larry Dorf Project
    8:30 Super Fun Night|ROB (MARCH 2013)
    9 THE MENTALIST
    10 HAWAII FIVE-0

    Monday
    8 Greg Malins/Greg Berlanti Project
    8:30 TWO BROKE GIRLS
    9 TWO AND A HALF MEN
    9:30 MIKE & MOLLY
    10 Ralph Lamb Project

    Tuesday
    8 NCIS
    9 NCIS: LOS ANGELES
    10 CRIMINAL MINDS

    Wednesday
    8 HOW I MET YOUR MOTHER
    8:30 Entry Level
    9 CSI
    10 Baby Big Shot

    Thursday
    8 THE BIG BANG THEORY
    8:30 Entry Level
    9 PERSON OF INTEREST
    10 THE GOOD WIFE

    Friday
    8 Applebaum
    9 UNFORGETABLE
    10 BLUE BLOODS

    Saturday
    8 SURVIVOR 25|UNDERCOVER BOSS (DECEMBER)|SURVIOR 26 (APRIL 2013)
    9 THE GOOD WIFE (SEASON 1 & 2)
    10 PERSON OF INTEREST (SEASON 1)

  • Ralph Hahn

    @Bill Gorman: >>> Networks do not “surprise” announce whether a finale is season or series finale in promos. <<<

    Nor do networks go out of their way to over-promote the final episodes of a "doomed" program, if they already had made up their minds to cancel the series.

    The U/F showrunner who posted here a couple of weeks ago said the show was still very much in the running for renewal. I believe him.

  • Ralph Hahn

    @KJ Styles: >>> I tried watching Unforgettable (mainly because Poppy Montgomery is HOT) but the show just bores me. <<< You're definitely spot-on regarding Poppy. I said months before that Poppy needs a different supporting cast, a transfer to another precinct or back to Syracuse. But, I wouldn't go out of my way to say that the show, overall, is boring.

    I don't see the chemistry Poppy has with her present cast as she had on "Without A Trace." She and Anthony LaPaglia were so good together that fans like me were happy that "Jack" was cheating on his wife with Poppy until they ended that affair at the end of season 2.

  • The Other Tony

    My proposed CBS fall schedule for 2012-13:

    ** obviously, any fall entry that bombs would be canceled right away (ala HTBAG) whereas any fall entry that pulls in great numbers would be given a Back-Nine order for the winter/spring

    MONDAY
    8:00 – 2 Broke Girls
    8:30 – Mike & Molly (fall/spring) / Untitled CK and Feresten Project (midseason – 8 episodes)
    9:00 – Two and a Half Men
    9:30 – Over and Out (fall) / Untitled Falcon & Dorf Project (midseason – 8 episodes)
    10:00 – The Mentalist

    TUESDAY
    8:00 – NCIS
    9:00 – NCIS: Los Angeles
    10:00 – Hawaii Five-O

    WEDNESDAY
    8:00 – Survivor (fall/spring) / Undercover Boss (midseason)
    9:00 – Criminal Minds
    10:00 – The Widow Detective (fall) / Trooper (midseason – 13 episodes)

    THURSDAY
    8:00 – How I Met Your Mother
    8:30 – Oh F—, It’s You (fall) / My Idiotic Twenties (midseason – 13 episodes)
    9:00 – The Big Bang Theory
    9:30 – Super Fun Night (fall) / Partners (midseason – 13 episodes)
    10:00 – Person of Interest

    FRIDAY
    8:00 – CSI: Miami
    9:00 – The Good Wife
    10:00 – Blue Bloods

    SATURDAY
    8:00 – Rules of Engagement
    8:30 – Rob!
    9:00 – ENCORES
    10:00 – 48 Hours Mystery

    SUNDAY
    8:00 – The Amazing Race / Ralph Lamb (midseason – 13 episodes)
    9:00 – Applebaum (fall) / Elementary (midseason – 13 episodes)
    10:00 – CSI

  • http://tvbythenumbers.com Bill Gorman

    “Nor do networks go out of their way to over-promote the final episodes of a “doomed” program, if they already had made up their minds to cancel the series.”

    “Overpromote”? There’s a desperate fan interpretation, if I ever saw one.

    “The U/F showrunner who posted here a couple of weeks ago said the show was still very much in the running for renewal. I believe him.”

    I didn’t see that, but even if it was from the real deal, people involved in shows are *always* optimistic in public. There simply is no incentive for them to be otherwise. If a star or producer ever said “Well, yes, the show’s doomed” in public, THAT would be news.

  • David Howell

    I’d order a 13-episode final season of Rules (getting it to a nice round syndication-friendly 100), and keep it on the bench. If it’s needed as quickly as it was last season with HaTeBAG, there might then be a gap for something else, although CBS might just use that slot for TBBT reruns and still get ratings higher than any non-sport programming on NBC, The Voice included…

    The case for expanding the sitcom time looks pretty overwhelming. The only argument against it: PoI could become a massively profitable franchise for CBS, and shifting it out of 9pm Thursday could hurt it big time. Given that CBS’s business model for the last decade has been nurturing crime procedural franchises that turn into syndication monsters, they must be hugely loathe to expand their comedy time into that hour, and it’s no wonder they did a TGIF experiment last month – that was to see if they could choose both more comedies and no POI disruption. The NBC numbers they got out of that block confirms they can’t.

    Hmm. Radical idea: CSI Miami gets a 13 episode final season. It gets replaced midseason by a comedy block, comprising of one new show (that gets premiered at 11pm on Super Bowl Sunday with a lead-in from a post-game TBBT) and a 13 episode final season of Rules. Won’t happen. Might not be the worst thing CBS could do.

  • MJDB

    Possible 2012-13 Primetime Schedule:

    Sunday:

    7:00-60 Minutes
    8:00-The Amazing Race (2 Seasons)
    9:00-CSI: Miami (Final Season)
    10:00-The Good Wife (Final Season)

    Monday:

    8:00-How I Met Your Mother (Final Season)
    8:30-New Comedy

    9:00-Two and a Half Men

    9:30-Mike and Molly

    10:00-Hawaii Five-0

    Tuesday:

    8:00-NCIS
    9:00-NCIS: Los Angeles
    10:00-Person of Interest

    Wednesday:

    8:00-Survivor (2 Seasons)
    9:00-Criminal Minds
    10:00-CSI: Crime Scene Investigation

    Thursday:

    8:00-2 Broke Girls
    8:30-New Comedy
    9:00-The Big Bang Theory
    9:30-Rob
    10:00-The Mentalist

    Friday:

    8:00-Undercover Boss
    9:00-New Drama
    10:00-Blue Bloods

    Saturday:

    8:00-Drama Rerun
    9:00-Drama Rerun
    10:00-48 Hours Mystery

  • MJDB

    Possible 2012-13 Primetime Schedule:

    7:00-60 Minutes
    8:00-The Amazing Race (2 Seasons)
    9:00-CSI: Miami (Final Season)
    10:00-The Good Wife (Final Season)

    Monday:

    8:00-How I Met Your Mother (Final Season)
    8:30-New Comedy
    9:00-Two and a Half Men
    9:30-Mike and Molly
    10:00-Hawaii Five-0

    Tuesday:

    8:00-NCIS
    9:00-NCIS: Los Angeles
    10:00-Person of Interest

    Wednesday:

    8:00-Survivor (2 Seasons)
    9:00-Criminal Minds
    10:00-CSI: Crime Scene Investigation

    Thursday:

    8:00-2 Broke Girls
    8:30-New Comedy
    9:00-The Big Bang Theory
    9:30-Rob
    10:00-The Mentalist

    Friday:

    8:00-Undercover Boss
    9:00-New Drama
    10:00-Blue Bloods

    Saturday:

    8:00-Comedy Rerun
    8:30-Comedy Rerun
    9:00-Drama Rerun
    10:00-48 Hours Mystery

  • Ginger

    Sunday
    8:00 – The Amazing Race
    9:00 – Elementary (new drama)
    10:00 – The Mentalist (new time)

    Monday
    8:00 – How I Met Your Mother
    8:30 – Louis C.K./Spike Feresten Project (new comedy)
    9:00 – Two and a Half Men
    9:30 – Mike & Molly
    10:00 – Ralph Lamb (new drama)

    Tuesday
    8:00 – NCIS
    9:00 – NCIS:LA
    10:00– Hawaii 5-0 (new time)

    Wednesday
    8:00 – Survivor
    9:00 – Criminal Minds
    10:00 – CSI

    Thursday
    8:00 – The Big Bang Theory
    8:30 – Super Fun Night (new comedy)
    9:00 – 2 Broke Girls (new time)
    9:30 – Partners (new comedy)
    10:00 – Person of Interest (new time)

    Friday
    8:00 – The Good Wife (new time)
    9:00 – CSI: Miami (new time)
    10:00 – Blue Bloods

    Midseason Replacements
    Martin Lawrence Comedy (new comedy)
    Rob! (returning comedy)
    Rules of Engagements (returning comedy)
    Trooper (new drama)

  • John A

    People think Unforgettable has a chance? Why wasnt it renewed last month along with the other shows? People its dead.

  • Tom

    I think one final 13 episode spackle order of Rules makes a lot of sense, even if CBS doesn’t expand their comedy hours.

    I think CBS, with the number of comedy pilots they have, will find enough to expand to 4 hours. Which makes a Rules renewal even more likely.

    Rob, on the other hand, requires CBS expanding to four hours AND wanting a lot of backup material. A longshot.

  • ToXiX

    CBS really doesn’t have any good pilots for next season. A Gifted Man sounds better than ALL of the drama pilots.

    Monday’s

    8:00 How I Met Your Mother
    8:30 Untitled Martin Lawrence Or Louis CK Project
    9:00 Two And A Half Men
    9:30 Mike & Molly
    10:00 Hawaaii Five O

    Tuesday’s

    8:00 NCIS
    9:00 NCIS LA
    10:00 Widow Detective

    Wednesday

    8:00 Person Of Interest
    9:00 Criminal Minds
    10:00 CSI

    Thursday

    8:00 The Big Bang Theory
    8:30 Rob!
    9:00 2 Broke Girls
    9:30 Super Fun Tonight
    10:00 The Mentalist

    Friday.

    8:00 Undercover Boss
    9:00 Applebaum
    10:00 Blue Bloods

    Saturday

    8:00 Rules Of Engagement
    830 How To Be A Gentlemen (remaining episode burn off). Lol. Just kiddin. Doubt we see them in the summer.
    9:00 Person Of Interest Repeats
    10:00 48 Hours Mystery

    Sunday

    7:00 60 Minutes
    8:00 Survivor
    9:00 The Amazing Race
    10:00 The Good Wife

  • KJ Styles

    @Liz and Jenz2488- I haven’t read about which shows have and haven’t been picked up, but I think it would be wise for CBS to pick up Over & Out if they haven’t already. Martin Lawrence is a bigger star than Rob Schneider, and it would be the first African American sitcom on a major network since My Wife & Kids. Blacks would most definitely watch, and that’d be GREAT PR for CBS which is already America’s Most Watched Network.

    From what I heard though, Martin was working on other ideas for sitcoms for CBS before settling on this one, so I think that’s a positive sign for it getting picked up. We shall see though. I hope it does. If Rob can get picked up despite being critically panned, I don’t see why they wouldn’t pick up Over & Out.

  • rob60990

    Monday
    8:00- How I Met Your Mother
    8:30- Partners (NEW COMEDY)
    9:00- Two and a Half Men
    9:30- Mike & Molly
    10:00- Hawaii 5-0

    Tuesday
    8:00- NCIS
    9:00- NCIS: LA
    10:00- Untitled Ralph Lamb Project (NEW DRAMA)

    Wednesday
    8:00- Survivor
    9:00- Criminal Minds
    10:00- CSI

    Thursday
    8:00- 2 Broke Girls (NEW NIGHT & TIME)
    8:30- Rules of Engagement
    9:00- Big Bang Theory (NEW TIME)
    9:30- Super Fun Night (NEW COMEDY)
    10:00- Person of Interest (NEW TIME)

    Friday
    8:00- Elementary (NEW DRAMA)
    9:00- The Mentalist (NEW NIGHT & TIME)
    10:00- Blue Bloods

    Sunday
    7:00- 60 Minutes
    8:00- Amazing Race
    9:00- CSI: Miami (final season) (NEW TIME)
    10:00- The Good Wife (NEW TIME)

  • KJ Styles

    Here’s my CBS fantasy schedule….

    Mondays

    8:00 2 Broke Girls
    8:30 Partners
    9:00 Two & A Half Men
    9:30 Mike & Molly
    10:00 Ralph Lamb

    Tuesdays

    8:00 NCIS
    9:00 NCIS Los Angeles
    10:00 Hawaii Five-O

    Wednesday

    8:00 Survivor
    9:00 Criminal Minds
    10:00 The Mentalist

    Thursday

    8:00 Big Bang Theory
    8:30 Over & Out
    9:00 How I Met Your Mother (final season)
    9:30 Super Fun Night
    10:00 Person Of Interest

    Friday

    8:00 CSI Miami (final season)/Undercover Boss
    9:00- The Good Wife (final season)
    10:00- Blue Bloods

    Sunday

    8:00 Amazing Race
    9:00 CSI
    10:00 The Widow Detective

  • Ralph Hahn

    @Bill Gorman: >>> “Overpromote”? There’s a desperate fan interpretation, if I ever saw one. <<<

    "Desperate fan?" Bill, just because that I disagreed with your assertion that "Unforgettable" is "certain" to be cancelled when there's been NO official word, you need not minimize my comments and characterize me as a "desperate fan." Perhaps, you're not used to someone on your board disagree with you, but you could be a bit more kinder in response to my comments.

  • http://tvbythenumbers.com Bill Gorman

    @Ralph Hahn, I can assure you that I am no stranger to disagreement here.

    Grasping at straws like a show being “overpromoted” as some sort of positive sign is exactly what desperate fans do.

    And of course there has been no official word on Unforgettable, but you’ll get it when it’s not on the CBS schedule announced in two weeks.

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