TV By The Numbers Is More Powerful Than You Can Possibly Imagine...

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May 14th, 2012

While the claim that TV by the Numbers' predictions kill shows by influencing large numbers of viewers to stop watching* them are pretty routine in our comments, Harry's Law executive producer Bill D'Elia thinks we're a lot more powerful than we actually are too!


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*Conveniently ignored by the claimants is the fact that we make our predictions *after* the low ratings are in, and the adults 18-49 viewers that advertisers pay for have *already* stopped watching. Where's the hate for the critics who tell people to not watch in *advance*?

Update: italics added above for the particularly sensitive.

 
  • Holly

    From an earlier post:

    I get that D’Elia is upset and needs someone to blame, so this is less about him and more about the repeated accusation that TVBTN causes shows to fail.

    Why do people believe that this website is so much more powerful than all the other TV websites combined? The critics love Community, but that doesn’t attract enough people to the show to help its ratings. Several entertainment sites constantly rag on CBS shows, yet it doesn’t hurt their ratings any. But when TVBTN reports that a show has low ratings and is likely to be canceled, that supposedly causes people who like it to abandon it in such numbers that the ratings drop? And if you were a Nielsen viewer who liked a show, wouldn’t you realize that your viewing could actually save the show, making it more likely that you would watch rather than less?

  • SoundableObject

    Wow. Who cares about Fan Excuse Bingo. Now we have Executive Producer Excuse Bingo!

  • hammard

    I don’t know whether to laugh or cry…

  • hammard

    @SoundableObject
    As we saw the producers of Alcatraz doing it this year too, this really should be a game.

  • Brittney

    This guy is hilarious.

  • danny94

    Haha!! this is so funny…. what an idiot!

  • Jason

    The man is absolutely correct. Negative talk in the media fuels viewers to stop watching. Guess that’s your endgame, eh, TVBTN? You’re killing television.

  • Harris

    I would never stop watching a show I liked just because ratings were poor. That said, I might not start watching a show that was low rated.

    However, if I was a Nielsen family, I would watch every show I like, with commercials, regardless of its ratings, because every bit helps.

    The only people who aren’t watching shows because of TVBTN saying they are going to fail are people who don’t matter because they aren’t Nielsen families.

    Also, no offense to the people who run this site, but I doubt this site gets so much traffic that it could influence ratings in any significant way on any network other than perhaps the CW, where one or two Nielsen families is the difference between renewal and cancellation.

  • http://tvbythenumbers.com Bill Gorman

    “Why do people believe that this website is so much more powerful than all the other TV websites combined? “

    Legions of crazy fans, and one executive producer, can’t be wrong, can they?

    Can they?

    Muahahahaha! :twisted:

  • Melanie

    More powerful indeed.

    There’s no logic involved in that criticsm — if the show’s ratings go up, so do the chances of renewal in the prediction. Not to mention that you never comment on quality or even say ANYTHING about watching or not watching a show.

  • http://tvbythenumbers.com Bill Gorman

    “Also, no offense to the people who run this site, but I doubt this site gets so much traffic that it could influence ratings in any significant way on any network other than perhaps the CW, where one or two Nielsen families is the difference between renewal and cancellation.”

    No offense taken, of course, because that’s the truth!

  • Bunny

    i LOVE IT!

  • Jenny

    @ Bill Gorman @ Robert Seidman
    Congratulations.
    I had no idea tvbythenumbers and the cancellation bear was so famous and powerful.

    Having Academy Award winner Kathy Bates, the star of NBC’s Harry’s Law, and Executive Producer of Harry’s Law (“most viewed scripted drama on NBC”), Bill D’Elia call you out makes you famous and powerful. They took they cancellation bear to task in an EW.com article. http://insidetv.ew.com/2012/03/09/kathy-bates-harrys-law/

    ‘Harry’s Law’ Star & Producer Don’t Like The Way The TV Business Works, Nor Do They Like Being Reminded Of It
    http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2012/03/12/harrys-law-star-producer-dont-like-the-way-the-tv-business-works-nor-do-they-like-being-reminded-of-it/124101/

    By them venting publicly about you shows they think you are powerful. If they really thought you were not powerful they would have just ignored you. I am sure there are hundreds of twitter accounts and blogs out there that talk about their show and they choose to ignore them because they are powerless.

    I like your retort “Nobody cares what we think Mr. D’Elia. Problem is, the folks selling the advertising at NBC think the same way we do…”

    And to think, I came to this site because my friend recommend it to me as a cute site for entertainment and funsies. I can’t wait to tell her how famous and powerful this site is.

    As for Kathy Bates and NBC’s Harry’s Law, there is a reason for the saying “don’t poke the bear!”
    And the saying let sleeping dogs lie, also applies to bears.

  • Jenny

    @ SoundableObject “Wow. Who cares about Fan Excuse Bingo. Now we have Executive Producer Excuse Bingo!

    Great comment !

  • Ultima

    @Bill D’eila
    TVBTN Negativism fuels belief to not watch shows.He influences viewers to not watch something,self fulfilling his prophecy.Just awful

  • chase

    I will say this there are shows i stopped watching as much when i saw the ratings start sliding. Alcatraz is one of them. As the rating slide down further i stopped watching did not want to get deeper and deeper into a story just to have it not finished. I kinda do that with all the shows like that. If OUAT had come out big and then i saw a down trend i would have stopped watching it as well to spare the pain ha. But that is not your fault i would find the rating somewhere else if you did not have them.

  • HB

    hahah this is hilarious!

  • psychic

    TVBTN = Obi Wan Kenobi. If you strike it down, it shall become more powerful than you can possibly imagine.

  • Chris L

    If this is the case, then where was Bill D’Elia’s praise of TVBTN last year when the site predicted Harry’s Law would get a second season?

  • JC

    He might try blaming NBC. I refuse to watch anything they put on until I am sure they arent going to pull it 8 episodes in..

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