Cable News Ratings for Tuesday, June 19, 2012

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1. d.d.

   Posted June 20, 2012 at 5:06 PM

   ICE agent’s family files wrongful death claim against Justice Dept.

   CBS News has learned that the family of ICE Special Agent Jaime Zapata has filed a claim for wrongful death against the Justice Dept. and other federal agencies. Zapata was gunned down by suspected drug cartel members in Mexico in Feb. 2011 with weapons later linked to an ATF case in the Texas area. Joining the claim is Zapata’s surviving partner in the attack: Victor Avila.

   Lawyers for the agents said the government’s practice of allowing U.S.-bought weapons to be taken into Mexico as part of broader gun trafficking investigations involving Mexican cartels allowed the weapons used in this case to be smuggled across the border.

   The practice, which has been highlighted in ongoing investigations of the ATF’s Operation Fast and Furious, has been widely criticized by lawmakers.

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   Rats,

   This was in a Congressional hearing this week.

   Obama administration program spent $10B to create 355 jobs per year

   According to testimony offered Tuesday before Congress by a Congressional Research Services expert:

   Asked by “how many jobs were created” in 2009 and 2010 under the 1603 renewable energy grant program authorized by the Obama administration, a CRS specialist in public finance admitted that $10 billion was spent to create 3,666 construction jobs over a two-year period–and only 355 jobs per year going forward.

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   Night all

2. Steve Perry

   Posted June 20, 2012 at 5:16 PM

   @Italian Mike…”I never though President Obama was a Muslim. I think he is pretty much a secular athiest. He goes to church once in a awhile but I think he does not believe much in that faithy Goddy thing.”

   -OK, now I’ve heard it all. He’s an extremist Muslim, he’s an Christian radical, and now he’s a secular Atheist? Seriously, I’m laughing out loud as I type. I remember the good ol’ days when you guys used to refer to him as ‘community organizer’. But before I knew it, he was the Antichrist…according to the Republican chain-letters that were floating around. Next thing you know, he became a Marxist, Communist, Fascist, Socialist…sometimes all in the same sentence…lol. And I won’t even touch on the birthers…bunch of loons. Boy, Fox News really did a number on you guys.

3. Italian Mike

   Posted June 20, 2012 at 5:18 PM

   @DD

   Yeah that is insanity. I am in the construction business. Creating jobs in this industry is simple. Businesses feel free to expand when they are making extra money and they feel secure about the future. For the homeowner it is when he or she is confident about their job. That is on a big scale or a small scale. From the middle class homeowner to the billionare building a skyscrapper. All the Government spending does not create any wealth. You take from Peter to put Paul to work.

4. Faith3

   Posted June 20, 2012 at 5:30 PM

   Good evening,

   Stopping by for a few minutes. PaulG,

   “I am puzzled by your first comment “Really? Government must not only subsidize and give tax breaks but must also provide an environment of risk taking for corporations?” It sounds as though you believe risk taking or investing capital,,which spurs growth in the economy and creates jobs,,isn’t something we should be encouraging in this country…”

   I was responding to your, “I agree,,but it’s up to local leaders,,state governors and our president to create an environment that fosters job growth at each level,,officials at the state and local level make use of tax and land incentives,,streamlining red tape in permiting and regulatory requirements,,to supplement their state or local area’s existing attribute’s when attracting new businesses and jobs..” comment. And the whooper, “It sounds as though you believe risk taking or investing capital,,which spurs growth in the economy and creates jobs,,isn’t something we should be encouraging in this country…”

   Crony capitalism is not the same as risk taking. It is the antithesis. We can create jobs without having to fund risk taking with subsidies and tax breaks or any kind of goodie bag. Capitalism is not the same thing as corporatism and should not be confused with it no matter what the newest talking point may be out of a politicians mouth or the corporate media. Corporate welfare is corporate welfare.

   “Your short diatribe about higher productivity resulting in fewer jobs and less benefits for workers should be a wake up call to the policies that would make us less competitive and stifle innovation”

   I have no idea what this point is suppose to mean Paul. Are you suggesting that this is a good thing?

   “Your comment that “Corporations are sitting on capital because it works for shareholders not necessarily for workers” is counterintuitive,,shareholders want a return on their investment,,and nothing pays less than cash right now”

   When productivity goes up as a company downsizes, the stocks go up. It is about profit not people.

   From: http://www.boston.com/business/articles/2012/04/08/wages_havent_kept_pace_with_recovery_study_finds/

   “Workers’ salaries and wages are generally stagnant amid high unemployment – even while the economy slowly generates new jobs, stock markets rebound, average worker productivity increases, and corporate profits soar.

   Indeed, the Northeastern study says that nearly 90 percent of the economy’s real income growth during the current recovery has gone into corporate profits, after companies slashed payrolls, kept wages down, and squeezed additional productivity out of existing employees.”

   Not a good trend. We are beginning to sound more and more like China then the USA. Yes, there are big benefits when slave labor is used BUT only to corporations not people. It should be about balance but its not. The priority is clearly no longer about workers wages, conditions or the community good or even about top notch consumer service but about profit in spite of all else. If people are willing to accept it then why would the model change? Not only do some people accept it but they actually have this false belief that only corporate welfare will produce jobs.

5. Italian Mike

   Posted June 20, 2012 at 5:48 PM

   @
   Steve Perry
   You are judged by the company you keep. He hung out with a lot of radical types. He started his political career in the home of Bill Ayers the terrorist.

   Hey President Obama has crushed a number of terorrists with the drone program. He ordered the raid on Bin Laden. I believe he loves his country.

   I believe he would like to see the USA transformed into a European type Socialist economy and society.

   As for FOX news or any other bogey man Rush Limbuagh or Sean Hannity, I formed my opinions long before I ever heard of them. You have to remember millions of us had these opinions long before any of those people came along. We all thought that we were alone but there were tens of millions of us. We knew the lib media was lying to us without being told by some radio guy.

6. Faith3

   Posted June 20, 2012 at 5:49 PM

   Hillbilly,

   “Not to mention the lack of enforcement to pay back the money borrowed. The fed govt taking over the program does nothing more to enforce collecting on the loans.”

   The private companies are not collecting the loans because they are government backed so therefore no shirt off their back when the students don’t pay them back.

7. 1nancy2

   Posted June 20, 2012 at 5:59 PM

   @faith3
   “Not a good trend. We are beginning to sound more and more like China than the USA.” Yes, and I think the corps just love the idea of slashing bennies, and reducing pay. People are losing their jobs or having their hours and wages reduced. They are having a difficult time surviving, with prices on everything going sky high. It does not look like the average American family has a rosy future and that’s a sad, sorry spectacle. I don’t think d’s or r’s will ‘get it done’ for them and just make little sounds, as they wring their hands, but zip, zero, nada, nothing will get accomplished for the 99%. Now, the 1%? You got it: Let the good times roll, faith 3. Let the good times roll and the sky’s the limit. You want it? You got it. No problemo, Mr. Billionaire.

8. Davey Boy

   Posted June 20, 2012 at 5:59 PM

   Can anyone tell me why the page listed S.Smith and O’Reily as both airing on FNC at the same time last night 8.p.m.?

9. Coffee Steve

   Posted June 20, 2012 at 6:03 PM

   @Davey Boy

   Last night a press conference was held and they blended together

10. Robert Seidman

    Posted June 20, 2012 at 6:03 PM

    @DaveyBoy: because atypically S.Smith ranover and both aired during the hour. We don’t post the durations or it probably would’ve been more obvious (S.Smith was 12 minutes and O’Reilly 48 minutes).

11. Coffee Steve

    Posted June 20, 2012 at 6:04 PM

    Greeting Earth TVBN people, I have returned, take me to your leader

12. Faith3

    Posted June 20, 2012 at 6:05 PM

    My last post keeps missing the filter. To recap quickly,

    “Now what you first said. (below) I posted the auction results for electric showing the cost rising because of plants having to shut down. So its OK to essentially raise taxes on the poor & middle class for “clean air & water”, but not for deficit reduction & help solve the safety net!?”

    Clean air is for the good of everyone no matter income.
    This is what I found as far as costs,
    “The draft Mercury and Air Toxics Standard proposed in March, which will likely mirror the final rule, would cost $10 billion to implement according to EPA estimates. But supporters say the 17,000 premature deaths avoided and $100 billion of health and environmental benefits realized annually would more than compensate for the $3 to $4 a month that EPA Administrator Lisa Jackson said the regulation will cost homeowners when it’s fully implemented.” -The Cutting Edge News

    As far as safety nets, the proposals I’ve mostly heard have to do with either cutting services or privatizing them or a combination of the two. I’d like to hear more about raising the cap. Privatizing hasn’t shown to save on costs as seen by the Medicare Advantage program the Republicans pushed through. Those costs are as much as 14% more than traditional costs.

13. Coffee Steve

    Posted June 20, 2012 at 6:06 PM

    I Like Robert’s answer better

14. Coffee Steve

    Posted June 20, 2012 at 6:08 PM

    @Faith3
    My last post keeps missing the filter.

    Howdy Girl

    Yep, mine gets caught all the time in my coffee filter LOL

15. Faith3

    Posted June 20, 2012 at 6:09 PM

    Hey Nancy,

    Instead of the old adage, a raising tides lift all boats the new mantra seems to center around the race to the bottom.

16. Faith3

    Posted June 20, 2012 at 6:10 PM

    LOL, Coffee! Nothing like a good coffee filter.

17. Coffee Steve

    Posted June 20, 2012 at 6:23 PM

    Goodnight Boys and Girls, I have an early breakfast in the am

    Peace

18. Davey Boy

    Posted June 20, 2012 at 6:41 PM

    The Five keeps getting stronger.

19. Love Potion 9

    Posted June 20, 2012 at 6:59 PM

    Combined MSNBC Ratings from 8-11pm P2+ 2,542

    O’Reilly Factor at 8pm alone P2+ 2,713

    When is Comcast going to set these MSNBC losers adrift?

20. Davey Boy

    Posted June 20, 2012 at 9:09 PM

    @ Coffee Steve
    @ Robert
    Thank you both for clearing yesterday’s numbers up. I was not at home last night & did not realize there was a show overlap at 8p.m.