How I Met Your Mother and The Voice were adjusted up two tenths, Mike and Molly and Bones were adjusted up a single tenth, Castle was adjusted down four tenths, Dancing with the Stars adjusted down two tenths, and Revolution, the LA Complex, and Hawaii Five-0 all adjusted down a single tenth among adults 18-49 versus Monday's preliminary ratings.
Final Monday broadcast primetime ratings for Monday, September 17, 2012
| Time | Net | Show | 18-49 rating | 18-49 Share | Viewers Live+SD (million) |
| 8:00PM | NBC | The Voice (8-10PM) | 4.4 | 11 | 12.18 |
| CBS | How I Met Your Mother | 3.6 | 11 | 8.84 | |
| ABC | Dancing with the Stars: All Stars (8-10PM) | 2.5 | 7 | 14.11 | |
| FOX | Bones | 2.3 | 6 | 7.61 | |
| CW | The LA Complex | 0.2 | 1 | 0.57 | |
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| 8:30 PM | CBS | Partners -P | 2.4 | 6 | 6.56 |
| 9:00PM | CBS | 2 Broke Girls | 3.7 | 9 | 10.14 |
| FOX | The Mob Doctor | 1.3 | 3 | 3.85 | |
| CW | The LA Complex | 0.2 | 0 | 0.39 | |
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| 9:30PM | CBS | Mike & Molly | 3.1 | 7 | 9.45 |
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| 10:00PM | NBC | Revolution | 3.4 | 9 | 9.21 |
| ABC | Castle | 2.1 | 6 | 10.45 | |
| CBS | Hawaii Five-0 | 1.8 | 5 | 8.06 | |
Nielsen TV Ratings Data: ©2012 The Nielsen Company. All Rights Reserved.
2 Broke Girls: 3.5/3.9
Yes! At least 2BG grew in the last 15-minutes.
@Raykov
CBS could cancel CSI: NY by May 2013 and move H5O to Fridays or could dump The Mentalist by next May and move H5O to Sundays. It is basically a battle between CSI: NY and The Mentalist for renewal. I don’t see H5O being beaten by CSI: NY nor The Mentalist (especially with the NFL delays). The chance of H5O airing on TNT for its 4th season instead of CBS is low.
Like most posters around here, I was surprised about the drop that H5O took. I did expect that a “male friendly” show like Revolution would steal some of the viewers from H5O but didn’t expect Castle to tumble from last season’s premiere.
There are two reasons why H5O started so poorly this season. First, NBC didn’t air The Voice during the fall of 2011. There was less competition between the networks from 8 pm – 10 pm which helped CBS a lot. So I thought H5O would start with ratings closer to the Spring of 2012 rather than the fall of 2011. The second reason is that Revolution is much more “male friendly” than Smash and more popular than The Playboy Club.
Looks like CBS is forsaking Monday nights for the more lucrative Thursdays. If TBBT, 2 1/2 Men, POI and Elementary start off like gangbusters, CBS will not care about these numbers cause of the cash it’ll be making on Thursdays.
Please can Bill or Robert answer the questions about HFO and the syndication. Surely the sydnication can’t save it if these sorts of ratings are going to be regular and aren’t just some weird freakish event? Surely the deal can be gotten out of due to bad ratings?
Here are the numbers for the premiere and finale of tonight’s CBS shows.
Season Premiere 9/21/201
8:00 CBS NCIS (Season Premiere) 4.3/12 19.96
9:00 FOX New Girl (Series Premiere) 4.8/12 10.28
CBS NCIS: Los Angeles (Season Premiere) 3.6/9 16.71
ABC Dancing with the Stars Results 2.9/7 14.79
9:30 FOX Raising Hope (Season Premiere) 3.1/8 6.73
10:00 CBS Unforgettable (Series Premiere) 2.9/8 14.09
ABC Body Of Proof (Season Premiere) 2.2/6 9.41
NBC Parenthood 2.1/6 5.28
Season Finale (CBS) 5/16/2012
8:00 CBS NCIS (Season Finale) 3.6/11 19.05
9:00 CBS NCIS: Los Angeles (9-11PM) (Season Finale) 3.0/8 15.19
If the two NCIS shows fall, we know there is something going on. I can see NCIS doing a 3.0 with NCIS:LA in the 2.5.
@Ultima
ME: Fair point. I take it. Although 2 BG is BIG hit show and think everybody expect much bigger ratings but this flope before hurt 2BG ratings.
@Ultima who said:
Do people not know that broadcast ratings have been declining for decades?
In 2000-2001, the big four averaged a 4.4 season average live adults 18-49 rating.
In 2011-2012, the big four averaged a 2.8 season average live+7 adults 18-49 rating.
That’s a massive decline. Stop expecting the ratings to go up and just accept reality.
ME: May be you need to make special page or whatever call them for that on tv bay the numbers site. I mean seriously people do not know these things/information. And even after ratings are so much down only in couple of months time….is even more shocking.
CBS is in more trouble than they think.
With Partners being DOA, and assuming Friend Me is no big hit, not 1 new comedy will return next year. And with the almost sure ending of HIMYM and 2.5 Men, what does CBS have?:
2 Broke Girls, which returned way weaker than expected
TBBT on Thursdays
M&M, which is waning in ratings and appears to be insanely lead-in reliant
and ROE, the ultimate utility player.
What this means is, assuming that they’re not moving TBBT back to Mondays (why would they when it’s Thursday’s entire anchor?), is that already CBS will be having to order 3 or 4 new comedies. What would make sense:
Mondays: 8- ROE, 8:30- NEW, 9- 2BG, 9:30- M&M
Thursdays: 8- TBBT, 8:30- NEW. And then 2 left over for the inevitable failiure(s).
What could also happen, which might make some sense too, is to make M&M the new utility player, and launch a new show in the fall after 2BG. So who knows really. All we know is that this Monday night isn’t working.
I find the 15-minutes finales extremely interesting for CBS comedys. 2BG rose 0.4 so – Ultima – if the anchor was led by any higher rated show it would be able to break the 4.0 plateu. CBS should air 1 hour of HIMYM last night. 2nd episode would score at least 3.8, and as somebody pointed out, 2BG usually had been scoring 0.2 better than the Mother.
@bluejays
What normally happens is that shows rebound from their spring lows in the fall premier season but don’t get as high as they got in the fall the previous season. So a drop of a good few demo points from the previous fall is expected. That is not what we’ve seen last night.
That is EXACTLY what happened last night.
There are going to be exceptions. Clearly Hawaii Five-0 is significantly down.
Dancing with the Stars is also down (which is not at all surprising) and subsequently Castle only managed to tie its spring lows.
However, the following shows are up from their spring lows – How I Met Your Mother, 2 Broke Girls, Mike & Molly, Bones, and The Voice.
Looks normal to me.
The quarter hours suggest people deliberately turned off Partners and missed the start of 2BG. Ouch.
Why does everyone think 2BG did badly? It had a 3.7! That’s 0.5 bigger than their season finale! And it grew to 3.9 in the last 15 minutes, if that’s not a good omen, I don’t know what it is. Just because TBBT can pull 5s doesn’t mean everything else has to, 2BG will probably the 3rd highest rated show, it won’t be cancelled or anything, so why the anxiety? Even Mike & Molly is safe as long as it keeps posting 3 or high 2s!
As long as everyone in that 10PM hour went down pretty much equally, I’ll take it.
As long as “DWTS” runs over into the 10PM hour (wish they’d fix that problem!) and certain markets pre-empt ABC shows for Monday Night Football there’s always going to be adjustments down in the final tally for “Castle.” Just have to accept it.
People can’t compare 2 Broke Girls HUGE lead in last year which was 2.5 Men with Ashton Kutcher to this years lead in which was Partners. Considering how poorly Partners did..2 Broke Girls held up considerably well.
Sad for Castle, but i have no fear it does not get a full season, as it needs all 22 for its 100.
It’s time for ABC to move Monday Night Football off ESPN and back to ABC. Run only one edition of Dancing with the Stars in the second half of the season and partner it with another cheap reality program at 10:00.
That would take care of your whole Monday night line up.
@bluejays
Please can Bill or Robert answer the questions about HFO and the syndication. Surely the sydnication can’t save it if these sorts of ratings are going to be regular and aren’t just some weird freakish event? Surely the deal can be gotten out of due to bad ratings?
CBS produces Hawaii Five-0, so if there is a too few episodes clause in the syndication deal, they’re going to eat a loss no matter what (either low ratings or compensating whoever bought it).
Although, even with low ratings, CBS is likely still making money off of Hawaii Five-0. They’ll likely want to move it to one of the low-rated warehouse slots (Friday/Sunday) to free up what is one of their better 10pm timeslots. Maybe they move it for midseason, definitely they move it in May.
Where can I see the late night ratings?
Disney makes more money from MNF on ESPN via cable subscriber fees than they would ever make from it being on ABC.
k:Alex: there are no final daily late-night ratings. The only finals we see come out in weekly form on Thursdays for the previous week. Preliminary late night ratings (at least for Mon-Thur) are in the preliminary broadcast #s:
http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/category/overnight-tv-ratings/tv-ratings-nielsen-overnight-tv-show-ratings/
I read while ago syndication doesn’t mean 100 episodes anymore. Deals can be reached with less episodes, 75-80. Probably depends on the ratings numbers.
What it is clear is that Hawaii 50 is not the 10 seasons show CBS/ Alex O. were hoping for when CBS filmed that expensive pilot.