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Wednesday Final Ratings:'The X Factor', 'Survivor' Adjusted Up; 'Animal Practice', 'Guys With Kids' & 'The Neighbors' Adjusted Down Plus Final Debate Numbers

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October 4th, 2012

 

The X Factor and Survivor were each adjusted up a tenth while Animal Practice and Guys With Kids were adjusted down two tenths and The Neighbors was adjusted down one tenth  among adults 18-49 versus the preliminary Wednesday broadcast ratings. Nielsen is not releasing final numbers for the actual Presidential Debate because it aired without commercials, but final numbers for the post-debate coverage are below.

 

Final broadcast primetime ratings for Wednesday, October 3, 2012:

Time Net Show 18-49 Rating/Sh Viewers (millions)
8:00 FOX The X Factor 3.5/11 9.71
CBS Survivor: Philippines 3.0/9 10.38
ABC The Middle 2.2/7 7.72
NBC Animal Practice 1.3/4 4.56
CW Oh Sit! 0.3/1 0.91
8:30 ABC The Neighbors 1.9/5 6.32
NBC Guys With Kids 1.6/5 4.76
9:00 NBC Presidential Debate (9-11PM) Live NA NA
CBS Presidential Debate (9-11PM) Live NA NA
ABC Presidential Debate (9-11PM) Live NA NA
FOX Presidential Debate (9-11PM) Live NA NA
CW Supernatural (Season Premiere) 0.8/2 1.85
10:30 NBC Post-Debate Coverage 2.8/7 8.72
ABC Post-Debate Coverage 2.5/6 8.86
CBS Post-Debate Coverage 2.1/5 7.01

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Nielsen TV Ratings: ©2012 The Nielsen Company. All Rights Reserved.

 
  • http://tvbythenumbers.com Bill Gorman

    “NBC has an average sitcom of 2.0, ABC has an average sitcom of 2.5, thus lower rated sitcoms on NBC could survive where they would be cancelled on ABC? Just wondering…”

    Yep. Read the post linked in these words: cancellation bear.

  • http://tvbythenumbers.com Bill Gorman

    “Then you did your mother a disservice – let her enjoy it while it’s on – letting ratings guide your watching habits is foolish and defeats the purpose of entertainment”

    Different people feel differently about this.

    My attitude is yours. If you like a show, watch it as long as you like it. If it gets canceled, well, you liked what you watched.

    Judging by our comments, plenty of people “don’t want to invest in a show that’s getting canceled”, or feel betrayed so much by an abrupt conclusion that they *retroactively* decide to hate the entire experience of watching the show.

  • John_M

    My attitude is yours. If you like a show, watch it as long as you like it. If it gets canceled, well, you liked what you watched.
    Judging by our comments, plenty of people “don’t want to invest in a show that’s getting canceled”, or feel betrayed so much by an abrupt conclusion that they *retroactively* decide to hate the entire experience of watching the show.

    As I’ve said before, I’m kind of old (I’m 40) and I’ve been watching shows that I loved, that critics may have liked, (or not) that maybe didn’t last more than 6 episodes. I didn’t care, I loved every episode of misfits of science, or brooklyn bridge, my so called love, the insiders, and I could go on and on…I like statistics, I follow them, I enjoy debate in general (as may have been noticed) but really – a shows bad or good ratings have no influence on what I watch.

    However, at the same time, I don’t understand emotional attachment to any show the way some people post here – i mean – i get how the system works – and unless it’s firefly – i’ve never really cared what other people think of a show – but man some of your posters need thorazine – or perspective.

    Even though I’m a huge fan of the genres that ‘create’ fanboys – i’ve never really been a fanboy except where whedon (and felicia day) are concerned – but even then – the percentage of ‘my show is awesome your show sucks’ posts here are fascinating – – maybe it’s the adhd

  • 4wrestling

    Very interested if anyone has the WWE Main Event rating from Ion TV (8-9pm et).

  • John_M

    Very interested if anyone has the WWE Main Event rating from Ion TV (8-9pm et).

    Yes, since you’ve asked four times or so – it’s obvious you’re interested

    Maybe you should wait until the cable ratings post and ask in there – since – well – it’s relevant to cable and not broadcast?

  • http://tvbythenumbers.com Bill Gorman

    “Very interested if anyone has the WWE Main Event rating from Ion TV (8-9pm et).”

    Just posted the press release: http://bit.ly/Pdv7FW

    “Maybe you should wait until the cable ratings post and ask in there – since – well – it’s relevant to cable and not broadcast?”

    Maybe you should realize that ION is a broadcast network. ;) However, when I was your age, I was equally impulsive.

  • luisl

    A 0.8 demos for Supernatural isn’t disaster. We were doing 0.7 by the end of last year. Whoever thought that we would do a 1.0 or more was crazy, no series wins viewers in its eight season.

    With these ratings we can get easily to season 10.

  • Geordiegirl1967

    @Silvio
    Re Supernaturals ratings
    “1) 0.8 with no competition is disaster”

    Er – no this is not a disaster. They are level with last seasons premiere and that is up against the debates which – albeit spread over several channels – got 49m viewers, 31 in the demo (according to Rentrak). This is far more than would usually watch what is on those other channels (Mod Family, X Factor etc). So I hardly think a presidential debate can be called ‘no competition’.

    Regardless of the debate, a 0.8 was a very good demo for CW last year, and the lead in was only a 0.3 for Oh Sit. If lead in matters (and we are told by Bill et al that it does) it should benefit next week from Arrow.

  • Erin

    @Bill and @John
    To clarify I asked my mother if she would be incredibly upset if the show didn’t run. Had she said she didn’t care I would have kept my mouth shut. She told me she would be really upset, so I advised her not to watch. I generally don’t care, but I also tend to pick up shows that are later in their run. Of the 5 or 6 shows that I started watching last fall only one was in it’s freshman season. And as much as I am a fan of Supernatural, I only started watching in December.

    As for the comparison of Last Resort, Hunt for Red October, and Crimson Tide, I compared them only because that seemed to be what the promos were going for. I’ve yet to watch or read the pilot so I genuinely have no idea where they take the story. For what its worth I don’t remember finding HfRO or Crimson Tide all that similar. Sorry if I offended you in some way.

  • Geordiegirl1967

    I need to correct by previous post (was an edit button too radical a step to have introduced during those lean summer months?). TVBTN just posted the official ratings for the debates (not Rentraks estimates) and 67m people watched. So yes I think it was competition for Supernatural.

  • Ultima

    @MattM
    Are You There Chelsea (RIP) did better than these flops.

    Chelsea’s averaged a 1.3 over its final six episodes (with a low of 1.1) – why do you think it would be doing better than that now?

  • Ultima

    @Brian J
    Why not bust out “White Elephant” with Howie Mandel sooner rather than later?

    Because it is a holiday themed, limited series?

  • Wendy

    Wow, I think this is the softest start to a Fall TV Season in at least a few years. Even established “hit” shows seemed to have premiered down. (I’m sure there are exceptions: Wasn’t BBT close to its prior numbers?)

    Either way, all of the networks must be shaking their heads, a little bit.

  • Trey

    “Then you did your mother a disservice – let her enjoy it while it’s on – letting ratings guide your watching habits is foolish and defeats the purpose of entertainment – and last resort was excellent.”

    How do you italicize words?

    I disagree with this. Would you start reading a book if you knew someone was going to come along and rip it away from you before you got to the ending? Would you start watching a movie if you knew it was going to cut off and never come back on before the ending? No and No. Why would it be any different for TV shows? I don’t want to get into a TV show that I know is going to be cancelled. Why do that to myself?

    There are some exceptions to the rule obviously, some shows are self contained within a season, so it really doesn’t matter if it gets cancelled because you got to read the story from beginning to the end, and each new season is like reading a new book or watching a new movie. But most of the serialized shows aren’t like that. They end the season on huge cliff hangers, so I’m not about to get into a show that I know is going to get cancelled seeing how it’s just going to end on a cliff hanger and anger me.

  • Ultima

    @Silvio
    Please, look into dictionary for word competition.

    Pretty sure a 17.8 Adults 18-34 rating is competition for Supernatural.

    Those watching presidential debates are
    A) mostly over 55 years old

    Swing and a miss. Only 45.9% of the viewers were 55+.

    B) mostly people not usually watching broadcast, regardless of age

    And that was silly (and ignorant) even without the final numbers.

  • Freyja

    no series wins viewers in its eight season.

    Wrong wanna talk to NCIS about that ;)

  • John_M

    How do you italicize words?
    I use my knowledge of html – w3schools.com will teach it to you quickly – you use with an i in between them to start it and with /i to end it (no spaces) I have no idea if the ascii code would work.

    ION is a broadcast network with how much national penetration?


    I disagree with this. Would you start reading a book if you knew someone was going to come along and rip it away from you before you got to the ending? Would you start watching a movie if you knew it was going to cut off and never come back on before the ending? No and No. Why would it be any different for TV shows? I don’t want to get into a TV show that I know is going to be cancelled. Why do that to myself?

    That’s fine – you disagree – how many times have you had a book ripped out of your hands before you finished it – or a movie turned off and told yo ucan never see it again.

    The comparison to television shows doesn’t doesn’t hold water as the medium and intents are different.

  • thesnowleopard

    @Silvio
    I see you struggle with the concept of the Cancellation Bear.

    Taking out your Reverse Fan Excuse Bingo, let’s look at what we have so far for comparison. SPN’s season premiere last fall got a 0.8/2 demo and 202 thousand, only 170 thousand more than this year on a rating that has little to do with renewal chances. It did 0.1 better than the season finale last May.

    Now, let’s compare it to other shows on the CW. Not a lot of data, yet, but SPN stands head and shoulders above. It’s 8pm lead-in had a 0.3 and half the audience of SPN. Hart of Dixie premiered its second season Tuesday with a 0.7 and 1.53 million viewers. IHeartRadio got a 0.6 and 1.21 million on Monday. ANTM got a 0.5 and 1.19 million.

    Might the new shows do better? Lord, I hope so, or at least as well. But Nikita, 90210 and Gossip Girl haven’t seen a 0.8 in yonks and aren’t likely to see one any time soon. And TVD will probably do a bit better, still. But that’s in the future and even the more optimistic projections for the new shows don’t put SPN in any danger with a season start like that.

  • http://tvbythenumbers.com Bill Gorman

    “ION is a broadcast network with how much national penetration?”

    Yes. Unknown.

  • John_M

    PS

    Looking at ION’s schedule (as I don’t have ION on my cable provider) it doesn’t look like a ‘boradcast network’ as I define it – it looks like a regional channel like we had growing up that was mostly reruns and would show some shows that were shown ONLY in syndication (you know, like the star trek spin offs before UPN, knight rider and the a-team after they got cancelled by networks)

    I didn’t consider WGN9 and WPIX11 broadcast networks either (if they are now affiliated with FOX or the CW – that’s different but I don’t know if they are or not) when I had them on my cable box.

    To me ION and ‘my return’ or whatever the hell it’s called are the same thing

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