Cable News Ratings for Thursday, November 8, 2012

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1. Ratboy

   Posted November 12, 2012 at 12:31 PM

   @ Mark2
   Posted November 12, 2012 at 12:19 PM
   @Tony “The 50-48 victory by Obama…”

   By the way, it’s now 51% to 48% and Obama has now passed the 62 Million mark.

   Also, keep in mind that there are still millions of votes to be counted and Obama has a real chance to pass the 65 Million mark.

   Hey guys, He won, and he won by a lot, soooooooo how about we deal with the real issue and that is how he is going to do or not do his job going forward. So far it has been very uneventful. Wed off/travel day, thursday off (as he said on friday, chance to get some sleep to Joe Biden) Friday, meeting with Joe and Hillary and a comment session to a bunch of cheerleaders for the party, Sat Golf, holiday today so not much going on for gov employees, will he hit it hard tomorrow???

   Lets see, no comment on Petreius, no comment on the Iran shots at our drone, certainly no comments on Bengazi, and not a word uttered about what is going on in the aftermath of SANDY. Ok, we will see.

2. TZCA

   Posted November 12, 2012 at 12:31 PM

   @Faith3

   Stating a fact is simply that: stating a fact. However, when you state a fact and link that fact to a previous claim, then you are making a solid ’cause-effect’ statement. In this case, the fact is still a fact, and your claim is your opinion, and the link between the two is now what is in question. If agree with your fact, but I don’t share your opinion, then the link connecting the two is not mutually understood. This then becomes anecdotal in nature. Just because your statements were in most part generalized, and mine were in most part personal, the anecdotal quality is still there in both cases.

3. TZCA

   Posted November 12, 2012 at 12:33 PM

   I am now having horrible flashbacks from ‘Classical Argumentation 101.’

   Calgon take me away!

4. Mark2

   Posted November 12, 2012 at 12:36 PM

   @Ratboy

   Eric Cantor knew about Petraus back in October. I wonder why he kept it a secret? What else does Cantor know about? Cantor could be in lots of trouble.

5. Faith3

   Posted November 12, 2012 at 12:38 PM

   Example would be nice. I’ll wait.

6. 1966

   Posted November 12, 2012 at 12:40 PM

   http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=UKDLQWEvubc
   to all our veterns.

7. TZCA

   Posted November 12, 2012 at 12:41 PM

   @Mark2

   Eric Cantor is an elitist who should be punished if he hid information.

   Though Faith3 wants to believe that I am a die-hard republican, I am not. I am a conservative independent whose values are too far removed from the Democratic Party to be a democrat, and therefore I default to the Republican party. That said, Eric Cantor being a Republican means nothing to me. Any elitist who plays childish games like I’ve seen Cantor do should be called out on it.

8. Ratboy

   Posted November 12, 2012 at 12:42 PM

   @ Mark2
   Posted November 12, 2012 at 12:36 PM
   @Ratboy

   Eric Cantor knew about Petraus back in October. I wonder why he kept it a secret? What else does Cantor know about? Cantor could be in lots of trouble.

   You guys are a trip! If Cantor new then Obama should have known so why didnt Obama the LEADER do something? Does the left EVER take ANY responsability for ANYTHING?? It is always point and blame, blame and point.

   So if Cantor ” could be in lots of trouble” then I woudl assume that Obama “could be in lots of trouble” RIGHT?

9. Mark2

   Posted November 12, 2012 at 12:45 PM

   @lbsles

   Again, Food Stamps are actually good for the economy. Food stamps are considered the best fiscal multiplier. And yes, economists used MATH to figure this out.

10. Mark2

    Posted November 12, 2012 at 12:46 PM

    @Ratboy

    Why didn’t Cantor tell the President? Why was he keeping it a secret?

11. Mark2

    Posted November 12, 2012 at 12:49 PM

    Why is it that all these Military Generals are always getting in trouble?

12. Ratboy

    Posted November 12, 2012 at 12:49 PM

    @Mark2
    Posted November 12, 2012 at 12:46 PM
    @Ratboy

    Why didn’t Cantor tell the President? Why was he keeping it a secret?

    Geez man! Why didnt the FBI tell the president? Why is it that this president does not have to know about jack sh#$ ? He didnt know about Bengazi, he didnt know about fast and furious, he didnt know about the Iranians firing on a drone, WHAT THE HELL DOES HE KNOW???

13. TZCA

    Posted November 12, 2012 at 12:49 PM

    @Faith3

    You’ll be waiting a very long time. I’m not going back through old posts to try to pick through and show this. But, one area that I didn’t want to sidetrack on during our earlier conversation was your mention of Latin America a couple of times and how you linked Latin America’s turmoil be a sole consequence of austerity. Fact: several Latin American countries have transitioned from relative peace to downright social chaos over the last thirty years. Opinion: These transitions are a direct consequence of austerity. This generalized statement, and the link which is not mutally agreed, is the other numerous factors, such as perpetual civil war and blood lusts during which perceived peace was short lived, as one possible factor.

14. Letmethink

    Posted November 12, 2012 at 12:51 PM

    In the spider-web of facts, many a truth is strangled.
    Paul Eldridge
    @Mark2 Why didn’t Cantor tell the President? Why was he keeping it a secret?
    What a hoot—got a snort and a guffaw from me and I’m not in that great a mood today–

15. Faith3

    Posted November 12, 2012 at 12:57 PM

    What!? Excuse me but never once did I mention austerity.

16. Mark2

    Posted November 12, 2012 at 12:59 PM

    U.S. to become biggest oil producer by 2017.

    “LONDON, Nov 12 (Reuters) – The United States will overtake Saudi Arabia and Russia as the world’s top oil producer by 2017, the West’s energy agency said on Monday, predicting Washington will come very close to achieving a previously unthinkable energy self-sufficiency.”

    Ouch!!! That’s gotta Hurt! I guess President Obama was right and the Republicans were wrong!!!

17. dana

    Posted November 12, 2012 at 1:00 PM

    I Dont Get IT ::: MSNBC must never give their potential talk show hosts any screen tests…these people they hire are so hard to understand…Millisa Perry has a lisp, now they are rumored to be given Ezra Klein a show with his very prominant lisp, Chris Mathews who is constantly spilling saliva and drooling, and lets talk about the Rev. Jackson, who yells every sentence as if your deaf or as if he is on the podium sermonizing his flock not to mention his grammar that comes out of the pages of Gone With THe Wind…its tough man, its tough

18. TZCA

    Posted November 12, 2012 at 1:02 PM

    @Mark2

    Statistics is not arithmetic, as Bill Clinton wants us all to believe.

    The USDA calculations of $5 in new benefits will result in $9.20 of new community spending (or more specifically community economic activity) are based upon statistical probabilities that assume

    (1) The $5 in benefits can be supported by $5 of revenue, or that the bond issued to support it will not drive the US Debt larger than the GDP it anticipates to stimulate

    (2) The $5 in benefit spent by the user of the benefit will be received by the store, paid to the store employees in wages and in turn respent, that the produce received by the user of the benefit will be replaced by the store, thus requiring new produce to be grown/manufactured, and money will need to be spent on fuel in so doing (and this is the reason so many agricultural lobbyist support it…money in their pockets).

    This sounds a whole lot like a ‘trickling’ effect that liberals denounce with such regularity. It also requires alot of faith that it will actually work. Kind of like right-wingers have faith that without so much regulation, ‘trickle-down’ would actually work.

    Arithmetic, Statistics, and down right having faith are significantly different, man. This is why your repetition of Bill Clintons “basic arithmetic” is funny.

19. ninja

    Posted November 12, 2012 at 1:02 PM

    I’m all for helping the economie, tomorrow file for food stamps, tell everyone you know. Thanks Mark2 it will keep me from feeling guilty.

20. Mark2

    Posted November 12, 2012 at 1:03 PM

    And to think that the Republican Party was considering Petraus for their VP pick.

    I think Cantor didn’t tell anybody because he’s involved.