Cable News Ratings for Friday, November 9, 2012

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1. Robbie

   Posted November 12, 2012 at 5:00 PM

   Well thank you Joe, doesn’t happen very often, to be called a coward by someone I have NEVER met!!

2. Sicilian Papa

   Posted November 12, 2012 at 5:02 PM

   Dems can’t cut spending. They will lose a good chunk of their base! When the checks stop coming they ain’t showing up to vote.

   Bank on it!

3. larrywitness

   Posted November 12, 2012 at 5:11 PM

   Darn chris Matthews is dragging down msnbc lineup. He has taken a major hit with his Hurricane Sandy was a good thing comment. ED show will never compete like OLberman did. Very laughable his only claim to fame is he can win during repeats.

4. Faith3

   Posted November 12, 2012 at 5:16 PM

   The biggest thing causing uncertainty in the business climate is having a consumer base.

5. Mark2

   Posted November 12, 2012 at 5:23 PM

   @TCZA

   20% cut in Defense is nowhere enough. Also a max of 25% for income tax is just silly. We’re sucking as it is with a 35% tax rate. We need to return to a period when things actually worked. These last 10 years of Bush tax cuts failed miserably.

   Low tax rates don’t work. Tax rates during the Clinton and Reagan years worked much better.

6. TZCA

   Posted November 12, 2012 at 5:29 PM

   @Mark2

   There are many, many issues supporting the prosperity witnessed in the mid 1990′s, one of which was a dot-com bubble that ended up collapsing at the end of Clinton’s term (and I don’t blame Clinton for this, directly).

   I don’t think a 25% maximum rate is silly, but that’s because I believe that in a stable less regulation-heavy environment, ‘trickle-down’ does work.

7. TZCA

   Posted November 12, 2012 at 5:32 PM

   @Mark2

   Also, in regards to the 20% cut in Defense, I often erroneously separate ‘Armed Forces’ from ‘Intelligence’ and the ‘Military Complex’ that makes up the Administrative corps of the Pentagon and the ‘Shadow Government.’ I suppose that when all those are coupled together, 30% is reasonable to me.

8. Mark2

   Posted November 12, 2012 at 5:33 PM

   @TZCA “‘trickle-down’ does work.”

   Really??? How has that worked for us in the last 10 years (Bush tax cuts). We’ve had the lowest tax rates in out history for 10 years now and all we have to show for it is another $10 Trillion in debt.

   Again, we’ve done way better with higher tax rates. Low tax rates have FAILED!!!

9. TZCA

   Posted November 12, 2012 at 5:41 PM

   Faith3
   Posted November 12, 2012 at 5:16 PM
   The biggest thing causing uncertainty in the business climate is having a consumer base.
   *******

   Agreed. But this is one of those “which came first, the chicken or the egg” arguments.

   I have a friend (more like a close acquaintance) who owns an elective surgery business in California. He is in the final stages of selling his business (eight months in the works) to move out of state. His business was and still is in the black (doing good). The regulatory environment has gotten so bad in the last two to three years (both in the legal form and cost form) that he is burned out, for lack of better choice of words. The buyer of his business has considered maintaining the staff, but has also indicated he may split the business, requiring people to move if they want to keep their job. Now, one could argue that Tom should keep his business for the sake of his employees and sense of patriotism, but then one can argue what incentive is there to run himself ragged, especially with more and larger regulations and cost inhibitors facing him in the future.

10. Mark2

    Posted November 12, 2012 at 5:46 PM

    Bernie Goldberg just stated on O’Reilly that he doesn’t believe we’re a Center-Right country. That’s what I’ve been saying. After looking at Fox News and CNN exit polls, I think we’re now a Center-Left Country.

11. TZCA

    Posted November 12, 2012 at 5:46 PM

    @Mark2

    In addition to Bush’s tax cuts, the tax code grew ever more complicated. The regulatory environment became ever more burdensome. We went into two wars that I supported in the beginning but they lasted way toooooooo long, and then the collapse of the Housing Bubble and the underlying Derivates Investments that were too complicated for even the investors to understand. This is not a climate of certainty to gauge the effectiveness of the ‘trickle down’ theory.

    Also, don’t think I’m supporting Bush. I thought Bush was a good hearted person, but he was a giant Donkey in an Elephant suit.

12. tony

    Posted November 12, 2012 at 6:15 PM

    @S.Papa–I’ve been thinking what you wrote–how can the Dems cut anything beside defense?There only way to raise revenue is through raising taxes…um um um!

13. Mark2

    Posted November 12, 2012 at 6:38 PM

    @Tony and SP

    Obama has offered spending cuts several times, as long Republicans are willing to raise revenues. However, when you have loons on the right who are afraid of the biggest loon, Grover Norquist, you’re never going to get anywhere. Obama is willing to put forth a blanced approach but the Republicans are not. This video says it all:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WKzGZj32LYc

14. Mark2

    Posted November 12, 2012 at 6:46 PM

    No wonder all these Republicans failed in becoming the President.

15. gspot

    Posted November 12, 2012 at 6:57 PM

    How can anyone in their right mind favor cuts to the US military??

    While the US Air Force may have the most aircraft on Earth, second place isn’t all that far behind. Can you guess who is in second place?

    Answer- The US Navy.

    But aside from that, we are only spending more on our military than the next 12 countries combined. I seriously can’t see any justification for trimming the defense budget….can you?

16. ninja

    Posted November 12, 2012 at 7:03 PM

    Mark2_ are you for real?

17. TZCA

    Posted November 12, 2012 at 7:11 PM

    @gspot

    To me, the amount we spend on military compared to another country is irrelevant. ‘Being Nice’ is not a realistic means to a peaceful end. Threat of force, not necessarily the use of force, is a more realistic means to that end as it’s an unfortunate consequence of the human condition.

    What concerns me is that there is an inability of leadership in the party to which I lean (the republicans) to even consider cuts to the military. Military contractors are a big strain on the federal budget. The standing joke of a $150 toilet seat isn’t a far stretch from the truth. Contractor inefficiencies (the ‘military complex’) are a big problem.

    I don’t want to see big cuts to the Armed Forces component of the Defense Budget.

18. Sam

    Posted November 12, 2012 at 7:12 PM

    WOW !

    The righties are actually SCARED that their taxes will be raised !
    Relax taxes will only be raised on the rich, unless all of you are bunch of billionaires !

    The most predominant argument on the right to reason their opposition to Obama is the so called “distribution of wealth”. That a boogeyman is stealing their money and handing it to bunch of lazy bums.

    One of the duties of a government is to run the wale-fare system. Now if you don’t believe in wale-fare, you probably don’t belong to the 21st century.

    If you want to live in the capitalist system, then you have to pay taxes. That’s the deal ! The government then uses the revenue from taxation to fulfill its duties which one of called wale-fare.

    To aid the unable and help those who fell behind until they are able to stand on their feet. You can’t be serious and tell me no let those people suffer and die !

19. Sam

    Posted November 12, 2012 at 7:19 PM

    Or maybe the righties ( Those who call themselves “pro-life” ) actually want people to die !

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PepQF7G-It0

20. Faith3

    Posted November 12, 2012 at 7:19 PM

    Sorry,

    Not buying the “chicken or the egg argument”.