FOX: 'Glee' Will Be Renewed, Fans Need Not Worry

Categories: Cancel/Renew Fox Shows,Cancel/Renew Index

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November 20th, 2012

Click this link for the latest FOX renewal / cancellation information:

Our Renew / Cancel Index predicts the network's decision on renewal or cancellation for scripted broadcast primetime shows by the end of the 2012-13 season in May, 2013. (includes results from September 17-November 18, 2012):

Program Status Renew/ Cancel Index
Fringe (F) final season 0.48
The Mob Doctor :oops: 0.54
Ben And Kate :oops: 0.74
Raising Hope :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: 0.85
The Mindy Project :| :| :| 0.94
The Cleveland Show :) :) :) :) 0.96
Bones :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: 1.06
Bob's Burgers renewed 1.10
American Dad already renewed 1.13
Glee :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: 1.25
New Girl :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: 1.31
Family Guy already renewed 1.41
The Simpsons already renewed 1.57

Few fan reactions surprise me after five years of working on the site, so while the worry from some Glee fans didn't surprise me, it did prompt me to write this post.

Yes, Glee ratings are well below their heyday, but the show is still Fox's #2 rated live action scripted show this Fall. Unless the cast or producers decide to call it quits (which I don't try to predict), it's coming back next season.

The observant will note that Ben & Kate is now predicted as certain to be canceled as its ratings slowly descend. I wanted to get Glee in the headline this week, so expect Ben & Kate in the headline next week.

Two years ago when Fox's Lone Star, "Lone Star'd" its premiere rating (1.3) it was yanked after its second episode (which had a 1.0). This season, The Mob Doctor has been nearly as woeful (1.5, 1.3, 1.0, 0.9, 1.0, 0.8) and yet looks like it will air most or all of its 13 episode order before vanishing.

Raising Hope is predicted as "certain to be renewed" even with its somewhat weak early ratings. While the syndication gods ruling Fox aren't quite as predictable as those ruling CBS, it would take nothing short of a cataclysm to prevent the show from getting a fourth season. Read more about it here.

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*shows no longer on the air have their Renew/Cancel Index "frozen" at the point they left the schedule.


  • :oops: - certain to be cancelled by May, 2013
  • :cry: :cry:- more likely to be cancelled than renewed by May, 2013
  • :| :| :| - toss up between renewal or cancellation by May, 2013
  • :) :) :) :) - more likely to be renewed than cancelled by May, 2013
  • :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: - certain to be renewed by May, 2013

The Renew/Cancel Index is the ratio of a scripted show's new episode adults 18-49 ratings relative to the new episode ratings of the other scripted shows on its own network. It's calculated by dividing a show's new episode Live+Same Day adults 18-49 average rating by the Live+Same Day new episode average of all the new scripted show episodes on the show's own network. The network's average ratings in the calculation are not time weighted (ex. hour long shows are not weighted twice what 30 minute shows are).

(F) -Fridays: Shows airing on Fridays were renewed with significantly lower than average Indexes.

How would the Renew / Cancel Index Have Done Predicting Last Season's Scripted Show Fates? Check out how the Renew / Cancel Index predicted renewals and cancellations from past television seasons.

  • Jim

    If they are going to keep skipping over the NYC side of glee than go ahead an cancel it.

    The new kids aren’t interesting I just want to see what the the grads they are following will do.

  • noro

    with the way glee is going this season at the moment alot of fans have tuned out because of the storylines so how is it gonna last another season?????????

  • DragonsDream

    I find it funny that people *on this site* who should know better, make comments like “I stopped watching Glee so it should be canceled” or “Glee sucks and should be canceled” or even “Glee’s ratings are down and thus should be canceled”

    This is “TV by the numbers” and your personal assessment of its quality is wholly irrelevant to Fox’s decision to keep it around. Season 5 (22 eps) is nearly guaranteed and unless there is a dramatic decline in ratings, expect a season 6 as well, as the current (S1-3) cast is phased out and the newcomers take over

  • Dan S

    Fox used to be my favorite number 1 network. Home of great dramas like 24, House & The X-Files are no more. The only new show I can get excited about & expect to do well is The Following in Jan. These days I’d sooner watch the CW with shows like The Arrow & SPN.

  • Jc

    Glee movie was a flop. Every week Glee is hitting a series low. Songs are not selling, they don’t even make the top 100 song charts on itunes. No Glee Tour this year. A lot of new characters and bunch of guest stars. Yes, Glee is an expensive show and it’s not making money as it used to be. Even Ryan Murphy is tired of writing for Glee. Quoting Ryan Murphy on his latest interview: “Glee is a royal mess”

    Murphy once described his inspiration for “American Horror Story” by saying, “I can’t write any more nice speeches for these ‘Glee’ kids about love and tolerance and togetherness. I’ll kill myself.” Instead, he built a stage for perverted nightmares, with a pilot designed to offend.

    Cancel this show that is going to get worse ratings and more important there is no more story to tell.

  • Justin121

    FOX hihgest rated shows barely get 2.0.

    Mob Doc ain’t far behind.

  • a p garcia

    What surprised me is that Glee has found an audience and is doing better than expected. I think it did better when it was on Tuesday vs Thursday.

  • Jc

    @a p garcia : do you mean season 3?
    because in season the ratings really started to tank

  • Jared

    Fox is having a horrible Fall. There isn’t one new show comedy or drama that has hit for the network. Fox better pray that The Following does something huge when it premieres.

  • Patrick G.

    “Glee” isn’t going anywhere – YET! Even with lower ratings, costs have been trimmed as other posters have listed. Much of the original cast is only in a handful of episodes this year. Even Matthew Morrison is going on storyline sabbatical now. And, while the NY side of the show has been a huge change and refreshing departure for the show, I think it is alienating the core viewership. Clearly FOX wasn’t ready to do a spin-off and opted for this “test” instead, but it’s hurting the Mothership show. Spin off the NY story into its own series already, or get rid of it altogether. It doesn’t belong in a series about a high-school glee club. And, on that note, the new cast members are quite good, IMO, so stop the transition from old to new, flush the original cast, get on with your new, cheaper cast and get back to SONGS!! The DVD and CD sales also keep this show alive beyond mere ratings, but with less singing, the whole thing just sinks. Yes, “Glee” will see season 5, but if they don’t make these changes, it won’t see any more!

  • TheOppositeOfYou

    @Patrick G.

    See, viewers are weird, because I feel exactly the opposite. I very much enjoyed seasons 1 and 2, pretty much hated the bulk of season 3 for storyline idiocy, but was still looking forward to season 4. I’ve watched every episode, and the only bits I’ve like were those related to core characters from the very beginning. The new characters are meh. The newest, the winner of the glee project, is much better to me than the other noobs, but none capture me in any way. Marley is dullsville, Kitty is a more obnoxious version of Quinn with less talent, and Puck’s brother (whose name I never remember) is just terrible. Wade is only there to be the “shocker,” now that no one cares about all the gay characters. It’s old and getting older.

  • Doug

    I think Mob Doctor still being on the air is just a product of the rest of Fox’s line-up sucking so hard. With The X-Factor scraping the low 2s, American Idol is really going to be make-or-break for them this season. I wouldn’t be surprised to see it spend all season in the low 3s at this point.

    That’s also why I think that Fox’s Tuesday line-up, despite mostly doing terrible ratings, will be on for the duration of the season.

  • Joe

    I’ve read here that some say glee has trimmed costs but aint their current cast bigger than previous seasons?. I also imagine ppl like kate hudson and Sarah Jessica Parker get paid quite a lot.

    Glee obviously will be renewed but the producers need to sit down and ask what is happening with their show because their ratings and song sales keep falling. They need to find a way to keep their current viewers interested since it seems they aint getting new ones.

  • Alan 59

    Lyndle worried about “Glee” being too expensive. Let’s break down the elements.

    (1) The Music. I’m confident that those that are profiting from the music are paying the licensing fee for song use. The show doesn’t have to pay an outrageous sum to have the music recorded because, trust me, it makes lots of music out in the world of iTunes and such… it just doesn’t make money for Fox, which annoys them greatly.

    (2) The Cast. I expect that the cast has seen some pay upgrades, as generally happens on a hit show, but that should be very controllable. None of them are established stars apart from “Glee,” and there is no other series in television where their talents would be in greater demand. Any ambitious agent presenting huge salary demands could easily be shut down, as no single actor is essential to the ensemble.

    (3) The Guests. This is also fully in the producers’ control. If “The Good Wife” can get away with paying scale, then I have to believe that “Glee,” which is sometimes offering TV work to Broadway players with limited TV options, could do the same.

    The bottom line is that “Glee” is only prohitively expensive if the producers have foolishly allowed it to be. Don’t worry, Lyndle.

  • Alan 59

    Despite the evidence above, I do know how to spell “prohibitively.” What I lack is the patience to proofread properly.

  • Trew

    Glee will definitely be renewed but it doesn’t deserve it. I used to love the show when it started, but by the end of last season, I just hung on to watch the graduation. Last season was horrible and this season is even worse. What made Glee a breakout hit when it first came on, doesn’t even exist anymore on that show.

  • were123

    What is the avarage for scripted shows in FOX right now? Would they renew something below 2.0-1.9? Just curious, I want to see if FOX has truly become the new NBC

  • Anthony Parello (AP076)


    “What is the avarage for scripted shows in FOX right now? Would they renew something below 2.0-1.9? Just curious, I want to see if FOX has truly become the new NBC”

    Renewing Fringe year after year despite catastrophic ratings may be single handedly getting them there.

    *NBC being the only network that is up overall since last season obviously.

  • a p garcia

    I am glad to read that Glee will probably be renewed. I believe FOX made a bad mistake moving Glee from Tuesday to Thrusday because Glee had higher ratings on Tuesday.

  • Rachel

    Ben and Kate had so much potential. The little girl is the only cast member that isn’t annoying.

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