NBC: 'Whitney' Won't Save 'Guys With Kids,' It'll Be Lucky To Save Itself

Categories: Cancel/Renew Index,Cancel/Renew NBC Shows

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November 20th, 2012

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Our Renew / Cancel Index predicts the network's decision on renewal or cancellation for scripted broadcast primetime shows by the end of the 2012-13 season in May, 2013. (includes results from September 17-November 18, 2012):

Program Status Renew/ Cancel Index
Animal Practice* canceled 0.66
30 Rock final season 0.67
Up All Night :cry: :cry: 0.71
Whitney :| :| :| 0.76
Guys With Kids :cry: :cry: 0.77
Grimm (F) :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: 0.91
Parks & Recreation :) :) :) :) 0.92
Chicago Fire :| :| :| 0.96
Law & Order: SVU :) :) :) :) 0.97
Parenthood :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: 0.99
The New Normal :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: 1.03
The Office final season 1.15
Go On :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: 1.39
Revolution :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: 1.72

Before Whitney premiered, there were a surprising number of our commenters counting on it to "save" Guys With Kids by boosting its ratings. That always seemed to be a bit of hopeful thinking, and after just a 1.4 premiere rating for Whitney, and no improvement for Guys With Kids, that hope should be laid to rest (among the sane). In fact, that premiere rating lands Whitney at the low end of the "toss up" range. The only question now is whether the show can save itself.

With the ratings for Chicago Fire and Law & Order:SVU converging, their prognosis may have to converge too. I'm currently giving SVU a more hopeful future because its a veteran show, that's already syndicated on USA, but it's also expensive, and airs at 9pm where there are more viewers watching TV. I may have to make both "toss ups" next week.

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*shows no longer on the air have their Renew/Cancel Index "frozen" at the point they left the schedule.


  • :oops: - certain to be cancelled by May, 2013
  • :cry: :cry:- more likely to be cancelled than renewed by May, 2013
  • :| :| :| - toss up between renewal or cancellation by May, 2013
  • :) :) :) :) - more likely to be renewed than cancelled by May, 2013
  • :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: - certain to be renewed by May, 2013

The Renew/Cancel Index is the ratio of a scripted show's new episode adults 18-49 ratings relative to the new episode ratings of the other scripted shows on its own network. It's calculated by dividing a show's new episode Live+Same Day adults 18-49 average rating by the Live+Same Day new episode average of all the new scripted show episodes on the show's own network. The network's average ratings in the calculation are not time weighted (ie. hour long shows are not weighted twice what 30 minute shows are).

(F) -Fridays: Shows airing on Fridays were renewed with significantly lower than average Indexes.

How would the Renew / Cancel Index Have Done Predicting Last Season's Scripted Show Fates? Check out how the Renew / Cancel Index predicted renewals and cancellations from past television seasons.

  • Martine

    NBC is actually coming along nicely. It does the unusual rather well. Revolution does very well, Grimm does well on Fridays. Those are the two shows of theirs I watch. I don’t watch anything on ABC, or I am watching 666 Park Ave until it goes away. I watch Person of Interest on CBS. Its definitely going for the number two spot over ABC and quickly. So I suppose NBC the network I watch the most.

  • Hades

    At the moment I’d say Guys with Kids,Whitney and Up All Night all cancelled and the rest will depend on how all the shows that havent aired this season yet do.

  • jowm

    Whiteny is one of the worst comedies on TV right now.. but Guys with Kids is even worse.

    The New Normal experiment will end soon, it has alot of goodwill among NDC execs because alot of them are homosexuals & it holds a place in their hearts — but soon the ratings & advertising reality will hit them.

  • Oliver

    NBC should renew Go On and Parks. The New Normal looks like it’s slowly inching towards cancellation. I’ll be surprised if 1600 Penn and Save Me succeed. I think it would be sensible to renew Community as mid-season spackle, assuming its ratings hold up, not least because its ratings may benefit from its syndication deal that begins next fall. NBC might be in the broader comedy business but having critics not crapping on the network every 30 seconds won’t do the network any harm.

    If NBC wants to be in the multicam business, NBC has two options: they can either keep their low-rated multicams and build around them, or start from scratch.

    There are compelling reasons for doing either.

    I’ve long felt that NBC should develop less shows each year, even if that means accepting low-ratings in the short-term. Having to overhaul half their network every season is not a recipe for success.

    On the other hand, they’re not great shows and their ratings are terrible, so it’s delaying the inevitable, and people may be less likely to check your new shows when it’s surrounded by crap.

    I have a feeling NBC are eyeballing renewing GWK and UAN. It’ll be pretty entertaining seeing how low they go if they do renew them.

  • David

    How awful is revolution? last remaining survivor shows have been hot recently and it seems like revolution is just hanging on by having a lot of interest in the pilot and NBC horrible rating average. It will get a 2nd season and continue to drop and still make a 3rd season and then get a 4th for “syndication” of a show that no one will want to re-watch and by the end it will be such a joke. I still dont get why bad shows get syndicated, if a show is so bad it only got a 4th season for syndication purposes why would anyone buy it to syndicate?

  • Miranda

    I like Guys With Kids and Up All Night! THIS IS NOT OK!

  • Bob Saget

    I am nervous for NBC. 2 of the 3 shows (P&R, 30 rock, Office) i watch every week are done. Up all night is decent but it’s probably going to be cancelled. I haven’t watched Go On looks strong, unfortunately i haven’t watched it yet (in my DVR) and Revolution is about to take a 3 month break.

    If I was NBC, i would just cancel Up All Night, Whitney and Guys with Kids. Let The Office and 30 rock end and come out next year with all new comedies. It’ll be interesting to see what they do next spring.

  • jowm

    Revolution has more bad episodes than good, but some shows improve in their second season — hoping revolution is one of those. it needs a more gritty look and feel to pretty much everything and rely less on self-contained episodes like the ones with the group of orphan kids straight out of a gap commercial or the dumb one where they ran out of air in a subway (wtf) which drag the overall story down.

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