Cable News Ratings for Tuesday, November 20, 2012

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1. Bobbyv

   Posted November 21, 2012 at 4:41 PM

   Robbie,

   It is easy to be nasty behind a keyboard, regardless of your side. Best just to ignore.

2. AppleStinx

   Posted November 21, 2012 at 4:53 PM

   Jeff wrote: “…If the red states want succession?? I say let the traitors go! But cut off their food stamps and all other welfare handouts first and watch crawl back.”

   If there is a secession, I think that the welfare crowd will move from red states to blue states, where food stamps and handouts would be more plentiful. JMHO.

3. UpAndOver

   Posted November 21, 2012 at 5:07 PM

   @Jeff
   “If the red states want succession?? I say let the traitors go! But cut off their food stamps and all other welfare handouts first and watch crawl back”

   Let me enlighten you Jeff:

   92% of all welfare in the ‘red states’ goes to the democrat controlled urban/city…

   Atlanta, Birmingham, Montgomery, Memphis, New Orleans, Houston, Dallas…

   Get the picture….

4. Gabriel

   Posted November 21, 2012 at 5:14 PM

   Ratboy
   Posted November 21, 2012 at 3:08 PM
   @ Very solid in the ratings

   VERY solid ratings do not flucuate as much as MSNBC! They are in fact happy because they are nothing more than the OBAMA BROACASTING NETWORK so they just keep preaching to the same group and do not need new material therefore it is cheap to produce!
   =======================

   True. But this is exactly how I also feel about Fox News.

5. Ratboy

   Posted November 21, 2012 at 5:14 PM

   Hey Apple and upandover
   All ya gotta do is repeat after me…………YOU CAN’T FIX STUPID!!!!

   Happy Thanksgiving you two!

6. Jeff

   Posted November 21, 2012 at 5:18 PM

   Come out from under the rock!! This is not new news.

   Moochers Against Welfare

   Even Critics of Safety Net Increasingly Depend on It
   Modern Republicans are very, very conservative; you might even (if you were Mitt Romney) say, severely conservative. Political scientists who use Congressional votes to measure such things find that the current G.O.P. majority is the most conservative since 1879, which is as far back as their estimates go.

   And what these severe conservatives hate, above all, is reliance on government programs. Rick Santorum declares that President Obama is getting America hooked on “the narcotic of dependency.” Mr. Romney warns that government programs “foster passivity and sloth.” Representative Paul Ryan, the chairman of the House Budget Committee, requires that staffers read Ayn Rand’s “Atlas Shrugged,” in which heroic capitalists struggle against the “moochers” trying to steal their totally deserved wealth, a struggle the heroes win by withdrawing their productive effort and giving interminable speeches.

   Many readers of The Times were, therefore, surprised to learn, from an excellent article published last weekend, that the regions of America most hooked on Mr. Santorum’s narcotic — the regions in which government programs account for the largest share of personal income — are precisely the regions electing those severe conservatives. Wasn’t Red America supposed to be the land of traditional values, where people don’t eat Thai food and don’t rely on handouts?

   The article made its case with maps showing the distribution of dependency, but you get the same story from a more formal comparison. Aaron Carroll of Indiana University tells us that in 2010, residents of the 10 states Gallup ranks as “most conservative” received 21.2 percent of their income in government transfers, while the number for the 10 most liberal states was only 17.1 percent.

   Now, there’s no mystery about red-state reliance on government programs. These states are relatively poor, which means both that people have fewer sources of income other than safety-net programs and that more of them qualify for “means-tested” programs such as Medicaid.

   By the way, the same logic explains why there has been a jump in dependency since 2008. Contrary to what Mr. Santorum and Mr. Romney suggest, Mr. Obama has not radically expanded the safety net. Rather, the dire state of the economy has reduced incomes and made more people eligible for benefits, especially unemployment benefits. Basically, the safety net is the same, but more people are falling into it.

   But why do regions that rely on the safety net elect politicians who want to tear it down? I’ve seen three main explanations.

   First, there is Thomas Frank’s thesis in his book “What’s the Matter With Kansas?”: working-class Americans are induced to vote against their own interests by the G.O.P.’s exploitation of social issues. And it’s true that, for example, Americans who regularly attend church are much more likely to vote Republican, at any given level of income, than those who don’t.

   Still, as Columbia University’s Andrew Gelman points out, the really striking red-blue voting divide is among the affluent: High-income residents of red states are overwhelmingly Republican; high-income residents of blue states only mildly more Republican than their poorer neighbors. Like Mr. Frank, Mr. Gelman invokes social issues, but in the opposite direction. Affluent voters in the Northeast tend to be social liberals who would benefit from tax cuts but are repelled by things like the G.O.P.’s war on contraception.

   Finally, Cornell University’s Suzanne Mettler points out that many beneficiaries of government programs seem confused about their own place in the system. She tells us that 44 percent of Social Security recipients, 43 percent of those receiving unemployment benefits, and 40 percent of those on Medicare say that they “have not used a government program.”

   Presumably, then, voters imagine that pledges to slash government spending mean cutting programs for the idle poor, not things they themselves count on. And this is a confusion politicians deliberately encourage. For example, when Mr. Romney responded to the new Obama budget, he condemned Mr. Obama for not taking on entitlement spending — and, in the very next breath, attacked him for cutting Medicare.

   The truth, of course, is that the vast bulk of entitlement spending goes to the elderly, the disabled, and working families, so any significant cuts would have to fall largely on people who believe that they don’t use any government program.

   The message I take from all this is that pundits who describe America as a fundamentally conservative country are wrong. Yes, voters sent some severe conservatives to Washington. But those voters would be both shocked and angry if such politicians actually imposed their small-government agenda.

7. Ralph Hahn

   Posted November 21, 2012 at 5:21 PM

   Just read the above numbers, specifically the 9PM est hour. Ahhh…Rachel who???

   Those of you trashing Hannity should remember that Sean has the second most-listened to radio program in the nation, right behind Rush Limbaugh. I don’t always agree on every thing Hannity says, unlike the MSNBCBots who will defend to the death even that moron Chris Matthews, but they have a very spay-shell relationship with Mr. Maddow. And, just what ARE those things hanging off her neck? lol.

   The Earth is back on its axis. Fox News is clearly #1 in total audience, 25-54 and 35-64. Some of you who say they are only the old folks forget that the demos do begin with 25 and 35 year olds.

   I echo the poster who asked why is Matthews is off for an hour and his show is run again. Why doesn’t MSNBC just GIVE Obama an hour-long primetime show? It simply cuts down on the middle-man. lol

8. Jeff

   Posted November 21, 2012 at 5:22 PM

   “Can’t fix stupid” is code word for being caught lying, and making up sh-t, yet again.

   “King” Obama??, President Obama was reelected in a landslide victory dumb dumb. Stop making sh*t up!

9. Jeff

   Posted November 21, 2012 at 5:24 PM

   Ralphie is back and has been playing with the blue water in the porta potty again. Taking comments and “information” from other sites and people and passing it off as his own. Not too bright!!

10. Ratboy

    Posted November 21, 2012 at 5:28 PM

    so Solyndra DIDNT cost us a half a billion bucks, and Obama DIDNT invoke executive privledge in the fast and furious investigation and Obam ahas told us all balut what when on in Bengazi and why Susan Rice said it was the video and why no one was sent to help save the four Americans that are dead?? Making WHAT UP!!!

    Caaaaaaaaaaaaant Fix STUPID!!!!!!!!

    One too many loons on the lake tonight!
    Happy happy all!
    Good Night!

11. Michael

    Posted November 21, 2012 at 5:31 PM

    Jeff
    Do you know the the meaning of succession? From what you posted you don’t understand what succession mean. I could explain it to you , but i’m not going to waste my time explaining the meaning to you.

12. Jeff

    Posted November 21, 2012 at 5:34 PM

    No findings, no charges regarding solyndra, now moved into desperation mode, listing failed accusations …. still not too bright!!

13. Jeff

    Posted November 21, 2012 at 5:36 PM

    @michael, you certainly explained what a brain fart is……thanks for sharing!

14. Sam

    Posted November 21, 2012 at 6:19 PM

    @ Betty,

    “@ sam…let not your heart be Troubled…Mr. Sean Hannity is sitting pretty
    VERY pretty! Do you know what his SALARY happens to be? If you knew you’d
    be on a suicide watch! Let not your heart be troulbled. Peace be with you”

    hahaha exactly my point. I just wrote yesterday that Hannity doesn’t care about the GOP or Obama … he only cares about how fat his pocket is and want others to do his dirty work for him. Bottom line is he wants tax cuts for the super wealthy because if Obama taxes him his fair share he will no longer be able to wipe his a$$ with $100 bills anymore because he’ll need them to pay his ” dog behaviorist “.

15. Sam

    Posted November 21, 2012 at 6:20 PM

    Fox’s obsession with ratings on the expense of facts :

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_8Xi3fv3gZw

16. ninja

    Posted November 21, 2012 at 7:00 PM

    If Hannity only cared about money, why does he a give such a largr percent of it to charities. Unlike most libs, Obama being one of them?

17. ninja

    Posted November 21, 2012 at 7:13 PM

    Ones succes if your on fox shouldn’t be rewarded, but if you’re in the movie business or a pro athlete and a lib it’s ok.

18. MT Rick

    Posted November 21, 2012 at 7:14 PM

    A Cooper is down to 10% and 12% of the audience and other CNN programing continues to drift down in % of the audience. Blitzed, Wolfy seems to be the high point of CNNs line up.
    All of the MSMBC programing is down between 20 and 30%, so MSNBC contiues to drift down. Rachel Maddow is the high point for MSNBC.
    O’Reilly is hitting 60 and 54% of the audience so he is still the main attraction of FCN. Hannity and Greta are 47 and 48% of the audience which is still below the lower 50s that they had early last summer, but they continue to increase their %.

    Politically it looks like we still have the same BS as we did before the election. Everybody had the opportunity to say something that atates their public stance then everybody went on vacation. Sounds like it is status quo in Washington.

    In the mean time life goes on.

19. MT Rick

    Posted November 21, 2012 at 7:20 PM

    Every body have a happy Thanksgiving. Please spend it with family, eating, watching the turckey day football games and shooting the breeze. Do not go to Walmart. Retail therapy can wait until friday.
    For me it is retail torture unless it is in the sporting goods store, but even then it is only good for about an hour or so.

20. Mark

    Posted November 21, 2012 at 7:48 PM

    @Ratboy
    ——————
    So if you watch MSNBC what can you tell us about Fast and Furious and Solyndra and Bengai
    ——————

    F&F – a program very similar to one Bush created(Operation Wide Receiver) where the US gives guns to Mexicans Drug Cartels to try get a read what’s going on. One fo the guns in F&F is used to kill a border patrol, Obama(or Holder) is the worst person int he world, but I guess all the guns in Wide Receiver were never used to do bad things.

    Solyndra – 500M is given to a Solar panel company to try help a startup new energy company that folded. Constantly brought up by FOX news as if it was the only place Obama gave money to in his new energy initiative and while they complain about Solyndra they seem to have absolutely no issue with the billions in substities we give to Oil companies at the same time.

    Bengazi – one of 26 embassies attacked since 1983, an Ambassador died in the process but unlike the other 25 embassy attacks, FOX claims this is worse then Watergate.