CBS: Ignore The Crazy Actor, CBS Will Renew 'Two & A Half Men' If It Can

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November 27th, 2012

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Our Renew / Cancel Index predicts the network's decision on renewal or cancellation for scripted broadcast primetime shows by the end of the 2012-13 season in May, 2013. (includes results from September 17-November 25, 2012):

Program Status Renew/ Cancel Index
Made In Jersey (F)* canceled 0.36
CSI:NY (F) :| :| :| 0.52
Blue Bloods (F) :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: 0.53
The Good Wife :| :| :| 0.67
The Mentalist :| :| :| 0.68
Vegas :cry: :cry: 0.72
Hawaii Five-0 :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: 0.77
Partners* canceled 0.79
CSI :) :) :) :) 0.92
Elementary :) :) :) :) 0.92
Person Of Interest :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: 1.11
Mike & Molly :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: 1.11
NCIS: Los Angeles :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: 1.13
Criminal Minds :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: 1.14
How I Met Your Mother** :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: 1.19
2 Broke Girls :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: 1.29
NCIS :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: 1.30
Two and a Half Men** :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: 1.43
Big Bang Theory already renewed 1.91

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What is it in the water at the Two and a Half Men set that makes its actors bite the hands that pay them millions of dollars a year?

While it's amusing to see yet another highly paid actor misplace his marbles, it's probably irrelevant to the future of the show. TAAHM is CBS' #2 rated show this season, and they'll pull out all the stops to keep it on the air, that's why it will remain "certain to be renewed". As always, my predictions do not attempt to take into account the showrunner or producer deciding "to heck with these whackjob actors, I'm done!"  and walk away from his own pile of money. Insistent commenters are free to do so, of course.

CBS has debuted three new dramas every Fall since 2006-7. I'd expect them to do the same next Fall. So unless they have some schedule wizardry up their sleeves I haven't seen before (holding back Undercover Boss won't help!) they'll need to cancel three of their Fall 2012 dramas to make room for three more next Fall. With Made In Jersey gone, and Vegas a likely cancellation, that means one more Fall drama must go. It's virtually certain that CBS will cancel one of CSI:NYThe Good Wife, or The Mentalist.  And if spring drama Golden Boy is renewed, two from that list will need to be canceled.

Why are Hawaii Five-0 and Blue Bloods "certain to be renewed"? Both dramas are in their third seasons and need a fourth to reach the "magic" 88 episodes for stripped syndication. Both are "certain to be renewed" for their fourth seasons next year. Read more about that here.

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*shows no longer on the air have their Renew/Cancel Index "frozen" at the point they left the schedule.

** The Renew/Cancel Index does not attempt to predict shows ending because the cast or production company chooses to end them. These shows have the ratings for renewal, but rumored cast/production company moves may end the shows.

Notes:

  • :oops: - certain to be cancelled by May, 2013
  • :cry: :cry:- more likely to be cancelled than renewed by May, 2013
  • :| :| :| - toss up between renewal or cancellation by May, 2013
  • :) :) :) :) - more likely to be renewed than cancelled by May, 2013
  • :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: - certain to be renewed by May, 2013

The Renew/Cancel Index is the ratio of a scripted show's new episode adults 18-49 ratings relative to the new episode ratings of the other scripted shows on its own network. It's calculated by dividing a show's new episode Live+Same Day adults 18-49 average rating by the Live+Same Day new episode average of all the new scripted show episodes on the show's own network. The network's average ratings in the calculation are not time weighted (ex. hour long shows are not weighted twice what 30 minute shows are).

(F) -Fridays: Shows airing on Fridays were renewed with significantly lower than average Indexes.

How would the Renew / Cancel Index Have Done Predicting Last Season's Scripted Show Fates? Check out how the Renew / Cancel Index predicted renewals and cancellations from past television seasons.

 
  • Captiosus

    I tend to agree that TAHHM is filth but only because I don’t particularly find the subject matter all that amusing. It’s too chauvinistic for my tastes. But millions disagree with me and keep watching so I’m clearly in the minority and I have no doubt the show will continue on unless all of the other actors implode over the coming months. Anything’s possible with this cast, it seems!

    That said, I do have to completely back Bill on this one. I find it extremely distasteful that Angus trashed the show that has made him rich in such a manner.

    Additionally, as someone of faith (just not the Christian one – Buddhist, if one is curious), Angus’ hypocrisy really stinks. If he truly found spirituality and religion in his life, good for him. However, if he truly believed what he said about the show being so filthy he should NOT have backpedaled later to save face. I seem to recall lots of passages from my church going days about not putting monetary gain ahead of spiritual gain. If he truly believes that the show is destructive to others and runs contrary to his [newly found] faith, he would have broken his contract.

    Instead, he rushed out a PR filled mea culpa to ensure he’ll keep getting checks on a show he just tried to paint as sinful and shameful.

  • miles silverberg

    Slight headline change:

    “CBS: Ignore The LATEST Crazy Actor, CBS Will Renew ‘Two & A Half Men’ If It Can”

  • David Howell

    Philip2: CBS’s drama development hasn’t gone to plan lately, you’re right. Two cancellations (counting Unforgettable) last season, probably two again this season (and they’re absolutely betting the farm on Elementary – I’d have thought POI might have been a better recipient of the post-SB sampling boost, but CBS obviously see more upside in Elementary). When I suggested that two from the three bubble dramas could go, I was anticipating possibly more comedy time to replace it.

    This would be a good strategy if, and probably only if, HIMYM and/or (preferably and) 2.5 Men carried on for one more season and only one more season. Then the new hour of comedy vacated by cancelling an extra drama is a one-time extension for potentially finding new hit comedies to replace the outgoing veterans.

    CBS have four top-of-the-hour-worthy sitcoms, but two of them are sure to be done by 2014. If they both go in 2013, CBS has no choice but to do something like this:

    Monday: 8 2BG, 8:30 new sitcom, 9 Mike & Molly, 9:30 new sitcom
    Thursday: 8 TBBT, 8:30 new sitcom

    Is M&M top-of-the-hour-worthy? On any other network, yes – only one off-CBS comedy beats it! But on CBS? Not unless you have to. Which, in that spot, you do. If 2.5 Men stays and Mother goes, I think 2.5 Men returns to the 9pm Monday slot and M&M stays at 9:30. If vice versa, the schedule can stay as it is (so 2BG stays at 9 rather than moving to 8), but with a new sitcom replacing 2.5 Men. If both come back, CBS should treat them as final seasons, and temporarily extend their comedy time for one season only:

    Monday: 8 HIMYM, 8:30 new sitcom, 9 Mike & Molly, 9:30 new sitcom
    Thursday: 8 TBBT, 8:30 new sitcom, 9 2.5 Men, 9:30 new sitcom

    (One of these “new sitcoms” might be Friend Me. But I doubt it. One of these “new sitcoms” might be Rules. That’s somewhat less unlikely.)

    Then, the Thursday 9pm hour can revert to drama in 2014-15, with the best of the 2013-14 freshman pack getting a top-of-the-hour slot in its sophomore year. In that scenario, only one of TGW/TM/CSI NY gets renewed for 2013-14.

    The other way CBS cancel two of those shows is an admission of defeat in the Friday Night Death Slot by handing it to Undercover Boss for as long as there’s enough gullible workplaces to keep filming it, then (assuming CBS can’t find an unscripted hit in that time, which strikes me as probable) to 20/20.

    Could CBS even cancel all three bubble dramas if both comedies survive renegotation and the Friday Night Death Slot is abandoned? Don’t forget, we’re talking about “bubble shows” on R/C Index numbers in the 0.6s. That’s not the bubble, that’s certain-to-be-cancelled territory in any other context. But then again, CBS veteran dramas probably make less of their revenue from first-run ad revenue than any other shows in television (ever?). I’m tempted to post international (or at least UK) ratings for the CBS bubble shows, they might be a better guide to their renewal prospects than their ratings on CBS!

  • Petar Ivanov

    People you are again making fool of you. This is second year in a row. CBS won’t give POI post SB slot, BUT CBS won’t move it (POI) from there, get over it. Thursday is BEST CBS day and POI is ONLY CBS show (with TBBT) that is in uptrend and growing and right now is CBS #2 Drama after aging NCIS. If CBS start moving things around than they must find new place for POI may be as lead-in in wednesdays, but CBS are so conservative that is almost imposible to make so many changes for one season. They will NEVER EVER premiere 3 new comedies, not to mention how hard is to promote 8 comedies 3 of them new. What drugs you take….New comedy after TBBT almsot 99% is FAILED comedy. That is why they move TAHM there at least this veteran show holding well. Come on i know that nobody of us will be ever TV CEO or scheduling boss but at least try to be a litle be reality. CBS are very easy to predict by the way. They are most conservative network. I will make you easy for you with few JOKERS:

    CBS always premiere new drama at tuesday at 10.
    CBS always premiere new comedy at monday at 8:30.
    CBS always premiere new drama at friday at 9.

    CBS always cancel lowest rated comedy and 3 dramas. They premiere 3 new dramas at these places and 1 new comedy. They try few years with new comedy after TBBT, but after failed 100% they stop it this season. Its so simple. For these who still think CBS will start moving things around like crazy – good luck with that.

  • Roco

    Sorry Bill Gorman, I really don’t like your title, crazy actor, so he’s crazy because he suddenly found religion. That is a great thing, God trumps greed, no amount of money will make me sell my soul. Good for Angus, hope more young adults follow in your footsteps…

  • http://tvbythenumbers.com Bill Gorman

    “Sorry Bill Gorman, I really don’t like your title, crazy actor, so he’s crazy because he suddenly found religion. That is a great thing, God trumps greed, no amount of money will make me sell my soul. Good for Angus, hope more young adults follow in your footsteps…”

    As noted in earlier comments, it has nothing to do with religion, and everything to do with trashing the people who’ve paid him tens of millions of dollars over his acting career on the show.

    Had he simply said “My new religious beliefs are incompatible with the show, I am leaving at the end of my contract” it’s completely a non-event!

    He could be religious without being an ungrateful chucklehead.

  • The End

    @Bill Gorman

    Which is entirely correct. Two and a Half Men made his career, and if he isn’t careful, could break his career too. Without Two and a Half Men, he would be a nameless actor, that very few people would of heard of.

    Showing a bit of respect in that regard would of done him a lot of favors.

  • NE1

    I can’t believe I’m saying this.. I’m finally warming up to Ashton in Two and a Half Men.. Took me a while, but it’s a decent show. The one liners from the kid weren’t adding that much anyway.

  • Adam Decker

    We wouldn’t be losing anything by losing Vegas. As for Two and a Half Men, I never liked the Charlie Harper version and think that it is better now than it was before. I’m not sure if Angus is thinking clearly because Walden could very easily have a son that he would know nothing about until the next potential season. At least Jon Cryer is still sain.

  • The End

    There’s a pretty funny Matthew Perry video mocking Angus going around, then you have Jared Padalecki(Supernatural guy) making comments that he should donate his earnings to charity if the show offends him now. His credibility as an actor is being called into question with some of the more outspoken people in the industry putting him down.

  • KJ Styles

    I can’t believe that CBS is wasting the post SB-slot on a boring show like Elementary. Person Of Interest is much better and higher rated. CBS obviously loves the show just as Fox loves Glee, ABC loves MF, and NBC loves Grimm so POI should have gotten the slot. Ratings would go through the roof and it may even beat Grey’s Anatomy a few times. I think it’s only beaten it once, but airing it after the SB would help it’s audience grow even more.

  • stacy

    do not cnacel good wife and the mentalist !! They are awesome shows !!

  • Justin121

    Bold prediction:

    One out of The Good Wife, Vegas, CSI: NY, The Mentalist

    Will become a summer series.

  • daniel c w

    Thanks, Conspirancy Brother

    I must have misremembered their rose d’or award, i thought it was a minor, technical award they got, but actually rose d’or has only big awards, my bad :)

    I don’t know much about TV in most countries, but it looks like Pan Am is airing on minor channels in mnay places, or even just on Sony’s own channels.
    In the UK Pan Am’s ratings declined, it had strong competition, though.
    And in Germany (or other German speaking countries) it has not aired yet.

  • Networkman

    Angus is 19 years old and I feel that he may disagree about what the producers are now asking of him. The producers have brought Miley to the set and they may be creating a storyline with him becoming more serious with her and other women. They want to explore his coming of age and Angus simply may not be comfortable with that. I must admit it seems the show has become all about relationship and sex. The writers lack creativity. I would like to see Holland Taylor return. I love the interaction between her and Jon Cryer. Right now, the show is too mature for the 8pm hour. It should air at 9pm because it is too risky for family viewing.

  • Networkman

    Two & A Half Men needs to air at 9pm next season. I feel 2 Broke Girls would grow stronger on Thursday next season following a new episode of The Big Bang Theory. So that means Two & A Half Men should return to Monday for its finale season. I wish that CBS would try it after a drama with comedic undertones next season.

    Monday
    8pm Beverly Hills Cop
    9pm Two & A Half Men
    9:30pm New Comedy
    10pm Elementary

    Thursday
    8pm Big Bang Theory
    8:30 New Comedy
    9pm 2 Broke Girls
    9:30pm Mike & Molly
    10pm Person of Interest

    I feel HIMYM should definately end this season.

  • Steve96

    @Conspiracy Brother: Reading comprehension for the win. The article said that “in all but one, Pan Am was the most-watched new U.S. drama premiere this fall.”

    Pan Am’s premiere did well among new shows that fall. That means something entirely different than being among the two most-watched shows internationally–something that Pan Am most likely never was.

    When we’re talking about international hits, we’re talking about TBBT, TAAHM, NCIS, TM, CM, CSI or The Simpsons among others.

  • John

    Why do you have Vegas as a Likely Cancellation? CBS keeps promoting it as Their #1 New show. Why would they keep doing that if they were going to cancel it? Also, Vegas is a good show, something different for CBS. I’m sick of
    The CSI type shows and Vegas is great!!

  • Philip2

    @John:

    1) What CBS honestly thinks and what their PR department tells us can be two completely different things. There’s no important category where Vegas is CBS’s #1 new show anymore.

    2) Whether a show is good or not doesn’t matter much when it comes to renewing or canceling it. Unless there are multiple awards on the horizon (see TGW), quality doesn’t matter.

    3) At this point, calling Vegas “certain to be canceled” would be more realistic than calling it “likely to be canceled.”

  • The End

    @Philip2

    Spot on. Network promotion means nothing.

    @In general

    People don’t need to worry about Two and a Half Men at all. CBS will 100 percent throw money at the show again. Cancelation, or even saying next season will be the ‘final’ is entirely incorrect. It will be back, even if another actor is brought in to replace Angus for Season 11.

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