Cable News Ratings for Monday, December 10, 2012

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1. cathy

   Posted December 12, 2012 at 7:57 AM

   What a news day yesterday!

   1) Michigan becomes a right to work state. Stop blaming Republicans for passing this against the voters wishes. Inside Michigan Politics survey in Michigan showed that 58 percent of likely voters support right-to-work. Opposition among Michigan voters participating in the survey was at 37 percent. Even in the Leaning Forward ABC poll of Nov 29th shows 54% majority said they generally favor right-to-work laws, with 40% opposed. But asked how they feel about Michigan becoming a right-to-work state, opinions were almost evenly split, with 47% saying they were in favor and 46% opposed. In Nov 6th, voters turned down prop 2 58 percent to 42 percent.

   2) North Korea launches a long range rocket successfully. The following song was heard coming from the North Korean’s leaders palace and many military bases:
   “California, here I come
   Right back where I started from
   Where bowers of flowers
   Bloom in the spring
   Each morning, at dawning
   Birdies sing and everything
   A sun-kissed miss said, “Don’t be late”
   That’s why I can hardly wait
   Open up that Golden Gate
   California, here I come”
   OK, I lied about the singing.

   3) A madman shots up a mall in Portland. Wow, this man walked through the mall with his gun out for all to see and no one did anything. Of course gun control supporters are saying more laws are needed. However having a loaded gun in a public place is already illegal. Maybe if citizens were allowed to be armed in Portland, someone would have stopped this man before he started to shoot.

2. BevAG

   Posted December 12, 2012 at 8:18 AM

   Cathy:

   Great post!!

   If I was in that mall and saw that man with a gun, I would have immediately called 911 while I was following him because anyone carrying a gun for all to see is up to no good unless they’re at a firing range. The second he started to lift to shoot, I would have shot him.

   I’m sure the families of those victims and the others who were shot wished someone had been there to take this lunatic out before he could hurt someone.

3. Moncon

   Posted December 12, 2012 at 8:22 AM

   @ Cathy
   Goes to show those who wish to do harm will do so with or without gun laws. They talk gun culture in this country but only in a Urban sense. Come to Alaska and the gun culture involves subsistence and family bonding. My husband took our son on his first moose hunt this year. They did not get anything but my son talked to me about how his Dad and him had nice conversations and he learned how proud his Dad is of him. No phones, no technology. 2 of my kids took the hunter certification course with their Dad. We participate in community hunts too. Our freezer is full of moose, salmon & halibut. No mention of that gun culture anywhere.

4. cathy

   Posted December 12, 2012 at 8:26 AM

   Way to go MSNBC!!!!!!!! They just used a NEA Union study to prove that Right to Work is bad for workers. Is MSNBC really that silly to think that a study done by a Union isn’t bias? Why not use these facts,
   1)According to Michigan’s Mackinac Center, using data taken from the Bureau of Economic Analysis and Bureau of Labor Statistics, private-sector, inflation-adjusted employee compensation in right-to-work states increased by 12% between 2001 and 2011 compared with just 3% over the same period in forced-unionization states.
   2)According to the National Institute for Labor Relations Research, right-to-work states (excluding Indiana, which passed a RTW law in early 2012) “were responsible for 72% of all net household job growth across the U.S. from June 2009 through September 2012.”

5. AppleStinx

   Posted December 12, 2012 at 8:28 AM

   @Moncon

   I’ve never eaten moose meat (or seen it in ‘Chopped’ on Food Network, where I often see “unusual” stuff). What does it taste like?

6. 1966

   Posted December 12, 2012 at 8:33 AM

   good morning
   happy 12-12-12 to everyboy.

7. moncon

   Posted December 12, 2012 at 8:34 AM

   Chicken,
   Just kidding, not to gamey pretty mild in taste. The hamburger has no difference in taste than beef. The grind makes a big difference. I use the stew meat for minestrone and beef stew and the steaks are good too. The roast I tend to overcook, not alot of fat. Of the game I have tried, (caribou and sheep are the other) moose is the most “beef like”. You can tell with a steak just how much preservatives are in beef. The moose steak is rich in color.

8. 1966

   Posted December 12, 2012 at 8:35 AM

   everyboy=everybody

9. RedBarSoup

   Posted December 12, 2012 at 8:47 AM

   So now we find out that the workers pensions from the Hostess company was used towards everyday operations. Just a few years back 6 of the CEOs got a HUGE pay increase, one got a 300% increase, so essentially, the workers pensions went to the huge pay increase that the CEOs got.

   http://blogs.dallasobserver.com/unfairpark/2012/12/hostess_used_workers_pension_c.php

   Despite considerable evidence to the contrary, the unions-killed-the-Twinkie trope is still very much alive.

   Never mind that Hostess completely failed to adapt to changing tastes or update its brand, that it went through seven CEOs in a decade, that it had already obtained deep concessions from workers while its top executives received pay increases and bonuses, and so on. If only the union workers hadn’t selfishly refused to agree to draconian pay and benefit cuts, the company would still be afloat.

   Over the weekend, the Wall Street Journal reported on yet another example of Hostess workers’ shameless greed: they expected the money they had contributed to their pensions to actually go to their pensions. (h/t Dallas Business Journal via CultureMap)

   That didn’t happen. Hostess’ $125,000-per-month CEO Gregory Rayburn, who wasn’t around at the time, admitted to the Journal that the snack maker had taken pension contributions — those deducted from Bakery & Confectionary Union & Industry International workers’ wages, not added by the company as matching funds — and used them to fund day-to-day operations as the company slid into bankruptcy.

   “I think it’s like a lot of things in this case,” Rayburn told the paper. “It’s not a good situation to have.”

   The workers with the Bakery & Confectionary Union & Industry International would surely agree.

10. Raz

    Posted December 12, 2012 at 8:52 AM

    Since when is having a choise of belonging or not belonging to a union is a bad thing? The one and only union I belonged to (Coleco back in 1981) was a joke, they took our money and did nothing.

    Unions at one time were needed, to keep the owners from abusing the workers. Now it’s the other way around, unions have because the very bad thing they were fighting against.

11. AppleStinx

    Posted December 12, 2012 at 8:53 AM

    @moncon

    Thanks. That led me to think of what might have been the most unusual thing I ever ate. I’m drawing a blank, the stuff that stayed in my head was a snake soup a friend ordered for himself in Los Angeles; he said it tasted like chicken and I even saw it looked like diced chicken white meat. Maybe that is what it was and he was pulling my leg (we were in a fine Chinese restaurant and the menu was all in characters).

12. cathy

    Posted December 12, 2012 at 8:57 AM

    @The Boss,

    People who voted for Obama were informed?! Really?! Obama told us that Al Qaeda was defeat. Obama declared that “al Qaeda has been decimated.” on Nov 1st of 2012. He said this was one of his major accomplishments. He said that he saved the U.S. auto industry. But he didn’t give Ford anything and Ford is doing the best. Chrysler is owned by Fiat, so it’s foreign owned now. And GM has let go of over 6000 HP contractors. That’s 6000 Americans that lost they’re jobs. Plus GM is close to going bankruptcy again. And they were losing market share in October and November.
    Obama knew as he was telling everyone that he decimated Al Qaeda, that it was Al Qaeda that lead the attack in Benghazi. We all know now that Al Qaeda is on the ground in Syria and in Egypt causing problems, that Al Qaeda is in North Africa taking over a number of cities. Al Qaeda is pretty active for being defeated.
    Just these limited facts make me believe that clearly Obama voters weren’t not informed.
    It appears that Obama voters believe what ever Obama told them.

13. BevAG

    Posted December 12, 2012 at 8:58 AM

    RedBarSoup: And to just think that all happened EVEN with a Union. So obviously the Unions can’t protect their workers. Those people were paying Union dues all those years expecting their pensions to be there and it’s not. That’s even more reason why the Unions really aren’t worth it.

    This reminds me of Social Security. When SS first started it was in its own fund, which is the way it SHOULD have stayed. President Lyndon B. Johnson, Democrat, put all that SS money into the general federal fund so he could fund the Vietnam War. THAT’S the beginning of the problems in Social Security.

    SS should have stayed its own fund just like pensions should stay its own fund. I don’t know why pension funds aren’t. You would have thought with all the regulation-promoting that President Obama did when he first ran for president and when the Democrats had total control of the House and Senate they didn’t make a regulation stating that all pensions would be their own fund.

    The Unions were in bed with the Obama even at that time. The Unions, if they REALLY cared about the people who pay Union dues, should have pushed for the Obama Administration to put regulation in that stopped companies from using pension funds. But they didn’t.

    I wouldn’t pay Union dues anywhere now after your post RedBarSoup. It’s real obvious the Union can’t even protect my pension fund. What good are they?

14. RedBarSoup

    Posted December 12, 2012 at 9:06 AM

    Yeah, imagine, all that happened even WITH a union, imagine what Hostess would have done if it DIDN’T have a union. I would expect minimum wage, no pensions, hard working conditions, THEN going bankrupt.

15. RedBarSoup

    Posted December 12, 2012 at 9:15 AM

    bama told us that Al Qaeda was defeat. Obama declared that “al Qaeda has been decimated.” on Nov 1st of 2012.

    He said that they are on the PATH of being defeated and who’s to say that Al Qaeda isn’t “decimated” Bush and Obama has done a GREAT job at killing al Qaedas leaders. From Bush putting troops in Afghanistan to Obama using Drone attacks to kill it’s leaders. The word decimated means only 1 out of ten AKA 10%.

    To select by lot and kill one in every ten of.

16. BevAG

    Posted December 12, 2012 at 9:31 AM

    RedBarSoap: The Union got these people no pensions anyway.

    They paid all that Union dues over those years, decades, and now they have no pensions. If I were those Union workers, I’d be at the house of those Union reps and at the Whitehouse screaming for why they didn’t protect pensions.

    The Whitehouse “regulation” mantra is all talk and no action. The Union thugs are all about Union dues and no action.

17. cathy

    Posted December 12, 2012 at 9:33 AM

    @redbarsoup,

    LOL, Obama said “Al Qaeda is defeat.” in his Toledo speech in Nov. He didn’t say “on the path of being”.
    But let’s look at the word decimated. You used the second less common use of the definition of the word. The most common use of the word decimated means: to destroy a great number or proportion of, not the 1 in 10, you use. Did Obama pick this word hoping that everyone would use the most common meaning but like you state he was using the second definition if questioned later? Either way, I’d say he was misleading the American people.
    You need to answer the fact that while Obama was saying that “Al Qaeda was on the run” to the American people. Obama knew that Al Qaeda was behind the 9/11 attack in Libya.
    I will agree that the Drone attacks have gotten a large number of Al Qaeda leaders. I give Obama credit for keeping up the Drone attacks.

18. AppleStinx

    Posted December 12, 2012 at 9:43 AM

    @Big Ben

    That is a nice video of what resourceful people can do. It’s amazing that the orchestra can even pull off performaces of Vivaldi’s 4 Seasons and Mozart’s Eine kleine Nachtmusik, although the string section sounds a bit too metallic for my ears.

19. RedBarSoup

    Posted December 12, 2012 at 9:46 AM

    @Cathy

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fy_Z_zA2rZ4

    That’s the video I keep finding about Obama saying that “Al Qaeda is defeat”…he says in the video ON THE PATH…..

20. Big Ben

    Posted December 12, 2012 at 9:47 AM

    Michigan union thug , Chris Opalewski, , cross dresser, violence proponent , & property destroyer identified. Lipstick & drag help his looks…. quite the bugger

    Huh ? He’s not in the 1%.

    Clint Tarver was recently profiled by a local news station:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=jzfwj7Eb8cA

    Michigan: Union Thugs Yell “N**ger Uncle Tom” As They Demolish Iconic Hot Dog Cart – Update: Conservatives Raise Over $9,000 To Help Man Rebuild Business…