Cable News Ratings for Thursday, December 13, 2012

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1. Mark2

   Posted December 16, 2012 at 7:34 PM

   States with the Highest murder rates per Capita:

   #1 – Louisiana
   #2 – Mississippi
   #3 – New Mexico
   #4 – South Carolina
   #5 – Maryland
   #6 – Alabama
   #7 – Arizona
   #8 – Michigan
   #9 – Missouri
   #10 – Tennessee
   #11 – Georgia
   #12 – Illinois
   #13 – Oklahoma
   #14 – Arkansas
   #15 – North Carolina

   11 out of 15 are Red States…go figure.

   http://www.deathpenaltyinfo.org/murder-rates-nationally-and-state

2. cathy

   Posted December 16, 2012 at 7:43 PM

   With all the problems in the Middle East, North Korea just launching a rocket and the Chinese launching their first aircraft carrier, it surprises me that people are still talking about Military spending cuts. Just doesn’t seem safe to do right now.

   Then again, maybe I scare easy. I’ll ask you all. Today, while talking to my son, an Aerospace engineering student. He told me how he got a look at the blue prints for a Chinese fighter jet. One of the Chinese students had it out on his desk. Now, I’m sure it wasn’t a classified blue print. But, knowing that China is actively developing fighters, knowing that half of the Aerospace engineering students are from China makes me realize that China is building it’s military. China is investing in it’s military and we are cutting ours. Add on top of it that the Chinese students are always question why we don’t build the F-22 anymore. They call it the best fighter in the world. And they don’t understand why the cost of the plane stops us from making more. I’m not saying we need more F-22, just that we need to understand the Chinese point of view that money isn’t a concern when it comes to building their military.
   So, is it a little scary hearing that?

3. usa8888

   Posted December 16, 2012 at 7:46 PM

   Cathy–The American People soundly rejected your right wing philosophy–lost by a huge electoral margin and 3.5 million votes, in spite of GOP voter suppression in many states. The GOP lost by huge margins with women, hispanics, blacks, upper income whites, gays, young voters, etc. The GOP did get the “bubba” vote, however. This doesn’t loom well for GOP in future. The GOP is a dinosaur party which is not resposive to modern thinking. Futher, spending IS the answer to recovery from any bad recession or depression. If you had economics background, you would know this–almost every economist agrees. The value of the dollar has not changed aprreciably in the recent past and inflation has been well under control despite right wing predictions to the contrary. Higher debt has nothing to do with value of the dollar and, in fact, if the US did what the right suggests we do to combat recession (i.e., nothing), we would be in Great Depression #2. The NRA would like 10 lethal weapons in every household since they get paid by their right wing backers based on the high degree of lethality–the don’t care about the consequences.

4. usa8888

   Posted December 16, 2012 at 7:53 PM

   Cathy–we can run rings around China and are spending as much on defense as the next 8 developed countries combined. Romney wanted to spend for spendings’ sake–he said we don’t have the same number of bayonets and horses as we used to have,….So what! That means nothing. Obama is spending money on extremely high tech weapons to beat the enemy quickly with minimum soldiers killed on our side. The Pentagon generals want to cut their budget, too. This will in no effect diminish the lethality of our response. The fact the some 18 year-old Chinese student in an engineering class thinks the US should be spending on certain airplanes means NOTHING becasue he knows nothing about it……..

5. Mark2

   Posted December 16, 2012 at 7:59 PM

   @usa8888

   Actually, they lost by over 4.7 Million votes and by the time the rest of the New York votes come in it’ll most likely be 5 Million votes.

6. cathy

   Posted December 16, 2012 at 8:10 PM

   @Mark 2, The site you listed starts its data in 1970 goes to 2011. Did you see that the murder rate in the U.S. is the lowest in 2011? It started to nose dive in 1993 and now it’s half of what it was back then. Wow, we aren’t killing each other as much today. Nice facts. To bad you looked at them to make Red states look bad.

   With Louisiana and Mississippi being neighboring states I wonder if their is a border area of the two that has a lot of murders.

7. Faith3

   Posted December 16, 2012 at 8:13 PM

   That was a rhetorical statement.

8. 1966

   Posted December 16, 2012 at 8:21 PM

   obama gave a good speech tonite.

9. cathy

   Posted December 16, 2012 at 8:22 PM

   @Mark2, I did a little research.
   #1 – Louisiana
   #2 – Mississippi
   #3 – New Mexico
   #4 – South Carolina
   #6 – Alabama

   #1,2,6 The Gulf coast accounts for the high murder rates. These murders are related to the coastal illegal drug import trade.

   #3 New Mexico the drug trade at the Mexican border.

   #4 South Carolina has a high coastal illegal drug trade too.

10. Mark2

    Posted December 16, 2012 at 8:44 PM

    @Cathy

    What does that have to do with anything?

    The fact remains…11 out of the 15 States with the highest murder rates are Republican States. I don’t care why they’re on the list, they just ARE!!!

11. cathy

    Posted December 16, 2012 at 8:48 PM

    us8888, your last statement proved how little you know! The F-22 is the best fighter jet in the world. Do you know what Aerospace engineers do? Have you heard of Rocket Scientists? That what they are. Any extremely high tech weapons that fly through the air these guy design. There are no 18 year old in an Aerospace program.

    And on your “Obama is spending money on extremely high tech weapons.” where did you get this information? Because Lockheed, Boeing, MIT, Georgia Tech, Cal Tech and University of Michigan (the two companies and four colleges that do 90% of the U.S. military resource and development of high tech weapons.) all stated that the Obama administration had cut their funding for 2013.
    So, who is making these high tech weapons?

12. Mark2

    Posted December 16, 2012 at 8:53 PM

    We spend way too much on Defense.

    We need to cut our Defense Spending by at least 50%.

13. Matthew

    Posted December 16, 2012 at 9:03 PM

    Hahaha, forgive me if I don’t feel too much panic over China obtaining their first aircraft carrier…in 20-freaking-12. A used aircraft carrier, no less. More than that, China is an increasingly pragmatic nation; North Korea is insane because they live in an insulated bubble of misinformation, and the Middle East has, er, religion. China, though? How do they benefit from a war with America? That’d be like McDonalds declaring war on the obese and lazy.

    Our defense budget is an unnecessarily bloated monstrosity. Cutting defense doesn’t mean “lets not have defense,” it means lets not have excessive defense. The reason we have excessive defense isn’t for our safety, it’s for corporate welfare, it’s a jobs program, it’s pork for various Congressional districts. Simple as that.

    In FY2012 we spent as much as the next 14 nations (in terms of defense spending) combined. Lets say we were spending only as much as, I dunno, the next 7 nations combined? Is it going to be the end of the America? Must every decision be guided by the paranoid nation that we live in a world where everyone is out to get us? That’s the sort of cowardice that’s empowered your own government to spy on you.

14. Matthew

    Posted December 16, 2012 at 9:05 PM

    ^*— paranoid notion

15. usa8888

    Posted December 16, 2012 at 9:31 PM

    Cathy–there has been no cutting of funding of high tech weapons by Obama. MIT, etc continue to do leading research on high tech weaponry as do our secret labs around the country. I have many friends at Lockhead and Boeing and there have been no cuts. If you know anything about engineering there ARE 18 year-olds in beginning aerosapce engineering prgrams at MIT, etc. Further, most high tech weapons are top secret and very few people know about them. Obama isn’t making the absurd statements that the right makes about having too few bayonets, horses and ships. He is smarter than that.

16. cathy

    Posted December 16, 2012 at 9:46 PM

    usa8888,

    No, At MIT you are not in the Aerospace program until you are a junior. You enter in general engineering. Boeing announced layoff in Nov 7th, 2012. Lockheed is expecting to start layoffs in April. MIT cut three project for this coming summer because of Federal defense cuts. University of Michigan has cut to research projects.

    Stop Lying Usa8888.

17. Mark2

    Posted December 16, 2012 at 10:13 PM

    For my fellow Conservatives and Liberals out there, nobody wants to prevent you from owning a gun to protect yourself, your home, and your family…I even own some myself.

    -What we Responsible Gun Owners want to do is prevent people from amassing arsenals…like that nutjob who was just caught in Indiana with 47 weapons after threatening to kill more children.

    -What we want to get rid of is Assault Rifles and High-Capacity magazines like the shooter used in Newtown. And yes, once a weapon is outfitted with a 30-round magazine, it is considered an assault weapon.

    -What we want to get guns off of the streets in the inner cities.

    -What we want is to make it mandatory for people to go through thorough, and I mean thorough background checks before being able to buy a rifle or a handgun…especially at Gun Shows.

    -I, personally, want to take that one step further and require a mental evaluation to be conducted prior to being able to purchase a gun…it only makes sense.

    -It’s time for us to use a little common sense on how we go about being a Nation of Responsible Gun Owners.

18. Gabriel

    Posted December 17, 2012 at 2:28 AM

    cathy
    Posted December 16, 2012 at 7:43 PM
    With all the problems in the Middle East, North Korea just launching a rocket and the Chinese launching their first aircraft carrier, it surprises me that people are still talking about Military spending cuts. Just doesn’t seem safe to do right now.

    Then again, maybe I scare easy. I’ll ask you all. Today, while talking to my son, an Aerospace engineering student. He told me how he got a look at the blue prints for a Chinese fighter jet. One of the Chinese students had it out on his desk. Now, I’m sure it wasn’t a classified blue print. But, knowing that China is actively developing fighters, knowing that half of the Aerospace engineering students are from China makes me realize that China is building it’s military. China is investing in it’s military and we are cutting ours. Add on top of it that the Chinese students are always question why we don’t build the F-22 anymore. They call it the best fighter in the world. And they don’t understand why the cost of the plane stops us from making more. I’m not saying we need more F-22, just that we need to understand the Chinese point of view that money isn’t a concern when it comes to building their military.
    So, is it a little scary hearing that?

    ====================================

    F(u)ck China. Talk to me when their defense budget is ONE-THIRD of ours. Hahaha.

19. Gabriel

    Posted December 17, 2012 at 2:36 AM

    Faith3
    Posted December 16, 2012 at 12:25 PM
    A nuke would offer the ultimate in personal protection in a well regulated militia;)

    ===========================

    How would you nuke a burglar without killing the entire city and your family?

20. Faith3

    Posted December 17, 2012 at 4:01 AM

    My point.