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1. Doug Z

   Posted December 20, 2012 at 9:50 PM

   TZCA

   On the fiscal side, if you’re a big spender. I consider you a liberal. Of course, there are other portions of the liberal which are moral. But the biggest spending in history has been done by the Republican Party. From 1994 to 2008 when they controlled both houses. The Republicans have also controlled the presidency for 24 of the last 32 years. So the Republicans own the fiscal situation or big government that we are in. And by definition their fiscal policy is liberal.

   I am proud to say I am a fiscal policy neocon. I know all the liberals on this site. Love that

2. cathy

   Posted December 20, 2012 at 9:51 PM

   @DougZ, I thought it was sarcasm…… BTW: Money doesn’t grow on trees, it grows in the cotton fields.

3. Doug Z

   Posted December 20, 2012 at 9:54 PM

   TZCA

   When George Bush was running for president, the father he said. Read my lips, no new taxes. His opponent, said that the only difference between himself and George Bush is that he is telling you the truth and will raise your taxes.

   Of course we know the outcome of read my lips. Was George Bush the father and the son liberal?

   Ronald Reagan raised taxes more than any president in history check on Social Security since he doubled that. He also increase spending percentagewise, more than any president in history. But, Ronald Reagan, said all the right things. The Republicans have no fiscal conservative, so they use Ronald Reagan with his slick, speaking and oratory ways. The facts are he was not a fiscal conservative.

4. cathy

   Posted December 20, 2012 at 9:54 PM

   @TZCA you left out that they kick puppies daily.

5. cathy

   Posted December 20, 2012 at 10:00 PM

   @tzca – Doug Z. I agree is becomes all about government and spending for all of them.

6. TZCA

   Posted December 20, 2012 at 10:00 PM

   Doug Z

   Someone in here once tried to snag me with the ‘neoliberal’ and ‘neocon’ labels. Whatever title defines you as someone who wants to see the government cut spending and raise revenue in a realistic and equitable manner, then I support you. By ‘cut spending’ I mean return to pre-Bush levels. By raising revenue in a realistic and equitable manner, I mean simplify the tax code, establish a flat tax rate or progressive rate capped at 20%, and everyone has skin in the game.

7. Doug Z

   Posted December 20, 2012 at 10:01 PM

   cathy

   The people that worry me the most are the ones that do not understand that we have more debt than the European Union. At the same everybody picks on European Union for their monetary, fiscal policy. I do not understand how big spending liberals, Republican and Democrat do not understand were really are going. We have liberals on this site that claim that spending is the only way.the Europeans feel the same way. Nobody wants to feel the pain that the economies in the United State sand Europe have to go through to fix problems. No country on earth and all of history has ever had to borrow 47% of everything they spent

8. Doug Z

   Posted December 20, 2012 at 10:05 PM

   TZCA

   Spending has increased less under the Obama administration than it did during the Bush administration. At this point we have lost so many manufacturing jobs that the problem is really the revenue side. Meaning that the country has gotten poor because of the loss of manufacturing, product, which produces the money that they collect in taxes. If we do not bring the manufacturing back. There is no hope. We have to produce product for product is money, and money is taxes. When you produce product you have something that people can buy and your country becomes rich. Without it you would become a third world nation. Over time

9. TZCA

   Posted December 20, 2012 at 10:05 PM

   Doug Z

   George Bush Sr saying “New World Order” caught me off guard. I was like the wtf?

10. Doug Z

    Posted December 20, 2012 at 10:08 PM

    TZCA

    The new world order has already been created in Europe. It is called the European Union, where none of the officials are elected. These are the same people that ran the country before World War I only they were called noblemen or lords. These land barons and all the property in the common person by law was not even allowed to own land before World War I. I believe that the same people are trying to go back to their same situation. The House of Commons could not change the law where people could not own land for the house of nobles would block it every time.

    Most people do not know that in Great Britain the common people were not allowed to own land. Very interesting piece of history. If you would like to Google it. For most people do not even understand this fact or have they ever heard of it

11. TZCA

    Posted December 20, 2012 at 10:13 PM

    Doug Z

    I agree with you that we need to produce. We have become a consumption society and suffer big trade deficits. I don’t agree that spending is less under Obama’s administration than under Bush’s.

    debt deficit
    9/30/2000 5,674,178,209,886.86 17,907,308,271.43
    9/30/2001 5,807,463,412,200.06 133,285,202,313.20
    9/30/2002 6,228,235,965,597.16 420,772,553,397.10
    9/30/2003 6,783,231,062,743.62 554,995,097,146.46
    9/30/2004 7,379,052,696,330.32 595,821,633,586.70
    9/30/2005 7,932,709,661,723.50 553,656,965,393.18
    9/30/2006 8,506,973,899,215.23 574,264,237,491.73
    9/30/2007 9,007,653,372,262.48 500,679,473,047.25
    9/30/2008 10,024,724,896,912.40 1,017,071,524,649.92
    9/30/2009 11,909,829,003,511.70 1,885,104,106,599.30
    9/30/2010 13,561,623,030,891.70 1,651,794,027,380.00
    9/30/2011 14,790,340,000,000.00 1,228,716,969,108.30
    9/30/2012 16,066,241,000,000.00 1,275,901,000,000.00

12. TZCA

    Posted December 20, 2012 at 10:13 PM

    wow, that didn’t format write

13. TZCA

    Posted December 20, 2012 at 10:14 PM

    right

14. Doug Z

    Posted December 20, 2012 at 10:14 PM

    TZCA

    Maybe I did not say that right spending increases were bigger under the Bush’s ministration then the Obama administration. Of course every year since the beginning of the United States. The next president has spent more than the last

15. Doug Z

    Posted December 20, 2012 at 10:16 PM

    TZCA

    In the first year of the Obama administration. The money increase… Give me less or the bail out passed by the Bush administration and, of course, John McCain, twisting arms to get it past

16. TZCA

    Posted December 20, 2012 at 10:16 PM

    9/30/2000–5,674,178,209,886.86–17,907,308,271.43
    9/30/2001–5,807,463,412,200.06–133,285,202,313.20
    9/30/2002–6,228,235,965,597.16–420,772,553,397.10
    9/30/2003–6,783,231,062,743.62–554,995,097,146.46
    9/30/2004–7,379,052,696,330.32–595,821,633,586.70
    9/30/2005–7,932,709,661,723.50–553,656,965,393.18
    9/30/2006–8,506,973,899,215.23–574,264,237,491.73
    9/30/2007–9,007,653,372,262.48–500,679,473,047.25
    9/30/2008–10,024,724,896,912.40–1,017,071,524,649.92
    9/30/2009–11,909,829,003,511.70–1,885,104,106,599.30
    9/30/2010–13,561,623,030,891.70–1,651,794,027,380.00
    9/30/2011–14,790,340,000,000.00–1,228,716,969,108.30
    9/30/2012–16,066,241,000,000.00–1,275,901,000,000.00

17. Doug Z

    Posted December 20, 2012 at 10:18 PM

    TZCA

    In my last posting it did not come out right. I have Dragon speaking naturally typing for me. I have given up on training it for every time I training it crashes.

18. TZCA

    Posted December 20, 2012 at 10:20 PM

    lol @ Dragon crashing. I’ve never used it, but thought about trying it. I type well though.

19. TZCA

    Posted December 20, 2012 at 10:23 PM

    wow, we reduced the national debt from $127.3 million in 1816 to $33700 in 1835. That only lasted a couple of years. All over after that.

20. Doug Z

    Posted December 20, 2012 at 10:24 PM

    TZCA

    I type pretty well, but this is kind of fun. You are supposed to read a number of stories to it to train it to your voice. Every time I get a trained and working properly. It crashes. So today I do not bother to even train it