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Cable News Ratings for Friday, December 21, 2012

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December 24th, 2012

Today, we only have Total Day and Primetime data.  If we receive program data later , we’ll add it. Apologies & Happy Holidays!

 

Live + Same Day Cable News Daily Ratings for Friday, December 21, 2012

P2+ (000s) 25-54 (000s) 35-64 (000s)
Total Day
FNC       1,162            225            456
CNN         485            150            230
MSNBC         639            193            295
CNBC         180             42             86
FBN           58             12             22
HLN         243            106            137
Primetime P2+ (000s) 25-54 (000s) 35-64 (000s)
FNC       1,654            237            602
CNN         575            182            264
MSNBC         965            247            439
CNBC         235             72            102
FBN           73             19             29
HLN         377            107            177

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For other days cable news ratings click here.

P2+ = viewers over the age of 2

(25-54) = Adults 25-54 viewing

(35-64) = Adults 35-64 viewing

Prime Time = 8-11pm

LIVE+SD: The number that watched a program either while it was broadcast OR watched via DVR on the same day [through 3AM the next day] the program was broadcast. For more information see Numbers 101.

Scratch = when a show's audience fails to meet minimum Nielsen reporting levels. For more information go here.

Nielsen Cable Network Coverage Estimates (as of July, 2012)

CNN/HLN: 99.727 million HHs

CNBC: 97.497 million HHs

FNC: 97.981 million HHs

MSNBC: 95.526 million HHs

Fox Business: 68.407 million HHs

Nielsen TV Ratings Data: ©2012 The Nielsen Company. All Rights Reserved.

 
  • Faith3

    Bev,

    Facts matter not Parisian politics as usual. Johnson decided to hide the actual cost of a very unpopular war from the American public by putting the SS funds on budget. It was Reagan and Greenspan who pushed to change SS in 1983 to increase SS funds by upping the payroll tax and then use the surplus for investment which we would later learn be a code word for whatever goes.

  • Doug Z

    Ratboy

    Social Security has between 27 1/2 trillion dollars in 29 1/2 trillion dollars in bonds in its account. That is what you call a surplus. No other program in all of government has any money in its account. So it will be a long time for it goes broke. They claim 2045. But the end of baby boom will be 85 years old. So the problem will be solved because there will be less old people.

    What the government is worried about is a will To compete with these bonds being sold from Social Security that they sold to them to run their government. When they can no longer steal this money that is when government has a problem.

    One of the simple answers for government would be to just any tax of 15.23% on everybody like Social Security. We might even help balance a budget that way. Then let Social Security keep its own money.

    What a joke?

  • 1966

    @doug z
    no , i’m not a girl he’s just a good singer

  • Doug Z

    Faith3

    A lot of the Iraq war was off budget to. Of course, every disaster being hurricane or whenever is always off budget.

  • Doug Z

    If everybody would quit blaming the other side and blame both sides like I do. We could cut spending, raise taxes and balance the budget. Of course liberals with you that! They would want to cut spending. Of course, Republicans would want to raise taxes! They could no longer hide their spending.

    So here we are, waiting for inflation!

  • Doug Z

    1966

    In 1965. I was only eight years

  • Doug Z

    Sam Donaldson To Tea Partiers: ‘It’s Not Your Country Anymore – It’s Our Country’

    Is this the same Sam Donaldson who was arrested in Delaware early this month for DUI? And we should listen to him why?

  • Doug Z

    If the Teaparty types are so irrelevant and have so little power, how can they be simultaneously responsible for the nation’s problems? Mr D, if your people rule, take responsibility for the mess your policies have created.

  • Faith3

    Doug,

    While some of that surplus was used to invest in SS, the biggest steal of the funds went to finance the Iraq and Afganistan wars.

  • Ratboy

    @ DougZ

    Are those “bonds” in the fictitious social security trust fund real or not? The short answer is that they are not.

    This somewhat esoteric legal issue is important because the popular misconception that there is some kind of “full faith and credit” obligation on the part of future Congresses to honor these “bonds” aids and abets the disinformation campaign of the AARP, the labor unions and others that the current system is a retirement program funded with segregated entrusted assets, the integrity of which is guaranteed and backed by the U.S. government

    All the U.S. is actually doing is engaging in non-binding musings with itself about paying itself back for certain monies it has spent out of general revenues for purposes other than social security. The closest thing that a social security “bond” resembles to anything legitimate is the “bond” of a corporation that has been reacquired by the corporation, or more accurately the “bond” of a corporation that has yet to be issued, i.e. sold, to a third party by the corporation. In either case, the “bond” is neither the property of the corporation’s stockholders nor of the investing public.

    Yes, the social security statute provides that on the face of the “bonds” memorializing the spent surplus there shall be a notation that they are “supported by the full faith and credit of the United States.” But this provision can only kick in if the bonds are actually issued by the U.S. to another party. The statute, however, does not provide for this. In other words, the “full faith and credit” language is illusory.

    As mentioned, for a bond to be a real bond, there needs to be at least two parties, for example, the U.S. and a citizen who owns a U.S. treasury bond, or the U.S. as owner of a German bond and Germany. The U.S. cannot issue “bonds” to itself and have their terms bind future Congresses. Bottom line: These social security “bonds” are neither assets of the U.S. nor property of workers and their families.

  • Ratboy

    Do Doug, those trillions in bonds are not worth the paper they are written on!

    $2.5 trillion in Social Security bonds stored in filing cabinet in downtown Parkersburg, W.Va.

    Sounds like a good time to start tapping the nest egg. Too bad the federal government already spent that money over the years on other programs, preferring to borrow from Social Security rather than foreign creditors. In return, the Treasury Department issued a stack of IOUs – in the form of Treasury bonds – which are kept in a nondescript office building just down the street from Parkersburg’s municipal offices.

    Now the government will have to borrow even more money, much of it abroad, to start paying back the IOUs, and the timing couldn’t be worse.

    One bond is worth a little more than $15.1 billion and another is valued at just under $10.7 billion. In all, the agency has about $2.5 trillion in bonds, all backed by the full faith and credit of the U.S. government. But don’t bother trying to steal them; they’re nonnegotiable, which means they are worthless on the open market

  • Ratboy

    So not Do

  • Doug Z

    Faith3

    The Social Security money was not stolen for just for one purpose. When you steal money and put it in one account, then you don’t have to take money from another account. So what you’ve done is just plain spent the money for general funds. You cannot blame it any other way.

    As you know, I could be an imperialist. But you have to make money at it. So, I am against all wars that do not pay for themselves. When the Romans conquered nation. They charge the nation attacked for doing so. If the Germans, Koreans, Japanese, or any other country does not want to pay us for being on their land. We should come home. All these countries charge us for having a base on their country. The answer to that is to charge them or come home.

    Good luck to the Japanese with the Chinese.
    Good luck to the South Koreans with the Chinese.
    Good luck to the Germans with the Russians.
    Good luck to Kuwait and all their friends.

    These countries are all rich and can forward to have their own military or pay us if they need our help.

    Good luck to all our allies we will help you if you need it, but you will help us. We are not the police of the world.

  • Doug Z

    Ratboy
    Posted December 26, 2012 at 1:30 PM

    Do Doug, those trillions in bonds are not worth the paper they are written on!

    Then treasury bonds are not worth a nickel either. There is no difference between a Social Security bond and it treasury bond except for Social Security pays almost no interest.

    If treasury bonds are no good. I really feel sorry for the Liberals that want to print money

  • Doug Z

    Ratboy

    That is not true that Social Security bonds have no value. I watch the head of Social Security. Explain the law and Social Security bonds and how much they had. These bonds are just as good as a treasury bond. I guess the real problem is what is the value of a treasury bond in the future!

    I also saw the head of the treasury talking about Social Security bonds and how they have to be sold in government shutdown. They would be sold on the open market to pay the people collecting Social Security.

    Now you could be right Social Security bonds and treasury bonds can always be sold at a deep discount. That is what happens when a treasury bond paying 2% is sold when the going rate is 10%. What you have to do if it is a 10 year note, multiply 10% times 10 equaling 100. Then, multiply 2% times 10 equaling 20 and the old 2% bonds will be selling for $.20 on the dollar.

    Yes I had to take finance for business. Yes, we did. Discounted notes and premiums notes. Most people do not understand that they can lose more money in the bond market the stock market. While bond rates are falling holders of old bonds make a premium gun in the map. Just like above only on the positive side.

  • Doug Z

    Ratboy

    Where is Mr. coffee?

    I need is help here today, do explain bonds. Of course he’s the teacher

  • Ratboy

    Doug the key is that there is NO provision to move them to a third party! Therefore the only way they could be payed off is if the government came into a whole lot of cash OR the government borrows the money to pay them back. So lets do the math 26 trillion borrowned to pay SS = us REAL REALY REAL BROKE, BANKRUPT, OUT OF BIZ!

    Those bonds are a smoke screen and SS will be broke in about 20 years! Wont bother me cuz I will be worm food but for the rest of you, as Billhilly would say C,YA

  • 1966
  • Faith3

    Doug,

    You’re right…it’s not stolen if paid back. Most politicians wouldn’t think about stealing those funds in order to let’s say to pay down the debt with the exception of the radicals. Those being brainwashed by specific players who just happen to also control a lot of our public policy. Sad really. Those funds should be used for one purpose only.

  • AppleStinx

    Doug Z asked: “Where is Mr. coffee?”

    I believe he’s been busy chatting with a – ahem :roll: – higher Power.

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