NBC: Was Last Week A Ratings Ray Of Hope For 'Whitney' & 'Guys With Kids'?

Categories: Cancel/Renew Index,Cancel/Renew NBC Shows

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January 8th, 2013

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Our Renew / Cancel Index predicts the network's decision on renewal or cancellation for scripted broadcast primetime shows by the end of the 2012-13 season in May, 2013.  (includes results from December 31, 2012- January 6, 2013):

Program Status Renew/ Cancel Index
Animal Practice* canceled 0.66
Guys With Kids :cry: :cry: 0.87
Parenthood :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: 0.87
Whitney :cry: :cry: 0.92
Law & Order: SVU :) :) :) :) 1.12
Chicago Fire :) :) :) :) 1.22
30 Rock final season pending
Up All Night :cry: :cry: pending
Parks & Recreation :) :) :) :) pending
Grimm (F) :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: pending
The New Normal :) :) :) :) pending
The Office final season pending
1600 Penn pending pending
Go On :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: pending
Revolution :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: pending

It's a New Year and the cancellation bear is back!

From now through the end of the broadcast season in May, the Renew/Cancel Index values will only be calculated using new episodes airing during 2013. However, until new episodes of a show air in 2013, I will keep the "old"  Fall predictions in the table.

It was only one night, and there was no other original broadcast competition (save Mobbed), but the 2013 return of Whitney and Guys With Kids was not as dreadfully rated as their Fall episodes were. Is that a sign of things to come, or just a bit of false hope for desperate fans? Impossible to know at this point, and for that reason I'm keeping their predictions at "likely to be canceled" for at least another week.

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*shows no longer on the air have their Renew/Cancel Index "frozen" at the point they left the schedule.

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  • :oops: - certain to be cancelled by May, 2013
  • :cry: :cry:- more likely to be cancelled than renewed by May, 2013
  • :| :| :| - toss up between renewal or cancellation by May, 2013
  • :) :) :) :) - more likely to be renewed than cancelled by May, 2013
  • :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: - certain to be renewed by May, 2013

The Renew/Cancel Index is the ratio of a scripted show's new episode adults 18-49 ratings relative to the new episode ratings of the other scripted shows on its own network. It's calculated by dividing a show's new episode Live+Same Day adults 18-49 average rating by the Live+Same Day new episode average of all the new scripted show episodes on the show's own network. The network's average ratings in the calculation are not time weighted (ie. hour long shows are not weighted twice what 30 minute shows are).

(F) -Fridays: Shows airing on Fridays were renewed with significantly lower than average Indexes.

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  • Ryan Schwartz

    If “Revolution” sustains in its return, NBC should try another drama out Tuesdays at 9 behind THE VOICE results and slide GO ON and NEW NORMAL to the less crowded Wednesdays at 8 as long as ratings hold during the upcoming VOICE hiatus with the Betty White lead in. I’m betting the Michael J. Fox sitcom gets the Thursday at 9 slot, and NBC drops comedy at 8, that is, unless they renew COMMUNITY and PARKS and admit that hour of programming is hopeless. Putting any new comedies or GO ON/NEW NORMAL Thursday at 8 would be a death wish.

  • Shanna

    I am rooting for Chicago fire this show good and getting better…

  • Lucas

    That thing is wrong, Parenthood made 1.8 in the demo, not 1.7 like Guys With Kids.

  • http://tvbythenumbers.com Bill Gorman

    “That thing is wrong, Parenthood made 1.8 in the demo, not 1.7 like Guys With Kids.”

    In the weekly ratings that came out today (which very, very occasionally have changes from the final ratings released the next day) Parenthood was adjusted down to a 1.7.

    When asked the question about what happens between the “final” ratings and the weekly ratings that come out on Tuesday, Nielsen’s response is something like “additional processing”.

  • Ryan Schwartz

    Actually, a thought: if “Off Their Rockers” does well enough, programming it Thursdays at 8 wouldn’t necessarily be the worst idea if they accept the hour is hopeless.

  • Dan

    If Whitney and Guys with Kids stay above 1.6 they may have a slight chance. I Still believe Whitney has the best chance among GWK, UAN, and itself.

    For once NBC has no dramas that are likely to be cancelled, Chicago Hope and Revolution both have a chance and I believe Grimm, Parenthood and SVU all will be back next fall.

    If NBC decides to dump all 3 bubble comedies, (as well as the already ending Office and 30 Rock) Than Parks WILL be renewed, more eps means more $$ for NBC. It will probably join Go On and The New Normal on Thursdays next fall.

    Not a bad year for NBC.

  • Lucas

    OMG @Bill Gorman, I didn’t know about that, so imagine that the record rating for The Big Bang Theory were adjusted down from a 6.1 to 5.9, this can happen?

  • Melanie

    Grimm and Revolution are going to be ‘pending’ for a long time — they’re not due back until March.

  • Melanie

    And I’ll be interested to see where Deception and Smash end up on the index.

  • omabin

    @Bill, have those final ratings been posted? I would like to see them

  • Red Jane

    Guys with kids is dead. Whitney likely too but it may depend on whether NBC has any decent shows in the pipeline for next season… Decent ratings against no competition isn’t very reassuring…. Oh an axe Up All Night while you are at it too… Deception had decent ratings but it is stuck up its own ass so likely to bore the audiences pretty fast… And then there is the Do Not Harm big question: Will it be as awful as it looks?

  • http://tvbythenumbers.com Bill Gorman

    “@Bill, have those final ratings been posted? I would like to see them”

    The broadcast top 25 lists that get posted on Tuesdays use those “really, really final” numbers, but if a show isn’t on one of those lists we don’t bother to note the updated ratings.

  • CenterGravity

    I’ve only watched bits and pieces, but Whitney and GWK seem like shows that could build an audience with time. I think 1600 Penn is Bear Chow. It’s fun to see Revolution at the top of the heap (especially for the haters). Go Community!

  • http://tvbythenumbers.com Bill Gorman

    “OMG @Bill Gorman, I didn’t know about that, so imagine that the record rating for The Big Bang Theory were adjusted down from a 6.1 to 5.9, this can happen?”

    OMG any “post finals” adjustments are very rare, and I don’t recall any in the five years we’ve been running the site of more than a tenth.

  • Anna Bones Clarkwood

    Does anyone think that NBC should air Revolution repeat the whole season 2 episodes a night for the 5 nights on Saturday b4 it returns?

    I think it should be 8-10 not 11 aka 48hrs. It’s better to be against COPS for 30minutes than 48hrs for 1hr & later @ night.

    They should also spend a little bit to promote this watch the whole season 5 week marathon. If they want this show to for syndication, heck some are saying that even with The Voice Lead In the 4 month break may result in cancellation numbers.

    I don’t know what NBC airs Sat nights after Football season is over but for 5 weeks a catchup season of their biggest new hit can only be a good thing, right?

    I’d prefer it be on NBC. However, if they want to pull a Nashville, they could get USA to find time. Maybe even pair it with Psych? I don’t know if Psych’s paired hours already exist. And, yes, the 2 don’t go together, like @ all. But still the biggest hit airing during those 5 weeks on USA would give it a decent sampling & with an easy way to just add 5-10sec promo along with the Psych Promos “Psych Returns Feb 27, & make sure to catch the Fall Season of the New Hit Show: Revolution”

  • Ryan Schwartz

    Here’s what I’d do next year:

    NBC 2013/14 Prime Time Schedule –

    8:00PM – The Biggest Loser
    10:00PM – The Apprentice

    8:00PM – The Voice
    10:00PM – Revolution

    8:00PM – The Voice: Results
    9:00PM – NEW DRAMA
    10:00PM – Parenthood

    8:00PM – Go On
    8:30PM – The New Normal
    9:00PM – Chicago Fire
    10:00PM – NEW DRAMA

    8:00PM – Parks/Community/Off Their Rockers/New Comedy ???
    8:30PM – Parks/Community/Off Their Rockers/New Comedy ???
    9:30PM – NEW COMEDY
    10:00PM – NEW DRAMA

    8:00PM – Dateline NBC
    9:00PM – Grimm
    10:00PM – Law & Order: Special Victims Unit

  • Dan

    Here’s Thursday next season

    8:00 Parks and Recreation
    8:30 The New Normal
    9:00 Go On
    9:30 Michael J FOX
    10:00 Parenthood / Grimm

    NBC should move TNN and GO ON from Tuesdays to try to rebuild Thursdays. Parks is the best to lead off the night and Go On is the best choice to replace The Office. Instead of airing comedies, Tuesdays at 9, NBC should try a new drama.

  • jimbo

    GWK would get another chance next season. It has had solid audiences.
    Next season a new multicam family comedy and GWK should be paired up at 9:00 on Thursday. The deads spot, at 8:00. Parks and rec and 1600penn will burn off until TBBT ends. GO on and TNN could be on Wednesday.

  • Bob

    Go Guys with Kids!!!! It is owned by NBC and Jimmy Fallon is at the Helm….I just think it might get that second season!


    A ray of hope is always a safe bet on the 1st week of the new year & agree another week or so is needed to determine their fate.

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