NBC: Was Last Week A Ratings Ray Of Hope For 'Whitney' & 'Guys With Kids'?

Categories: Cancel/Renew Index,Cancel/Renew NBC Shows

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January 8th, 2013

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Our Renew / Cancel Index predicts the network's decision on renewal or cancellation for scripted broadcast primetime shows by the end of the 2012-13 season in May, 2013.  (includes results from December 31, 2012- January 6, 2013):

Program Status Renew/ Cancel Index
Animal Practice* canceled 0.66
Guys With Kids :cry: :cry: 0.87
Parenthood :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: 0.87
Whitney :cry: :cry: 0.92
Law & Order: SVU :) :) :) :) 1.12
Chicago Fire :) :) :) :) 1.22
30 Rock final season pending
Up All Night :cry: :cry: pending
Parks & Recreation :) :) :) :) pending
Grimm (F) :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: pending
The New Normal :) :) :) :) pending
The Office final season pending
1600 Penn pending pending
Go On :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: pending
Revolution :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: pending

It's a New Year and the cancellation bear is back!

From now through the end of the broadcast season in May, the Renew/Cancel Index values will only be calculated using new episodes airing during 2013. However, until new episodes of a show air in 2013, I will keep the "old"  Fall predictions in the table.

It was only one night, and there was no other original broadcast competition (save Mobbed), but the 2013 return of Whitney and Guys With Kids was not as dreadfully rated as their Fall episodes were. Is that a sign of things to come, or just a bit of false hope for desperate fans? Impossible to know at this point, and for that reason I'm keeping their predictions at "likely to be canceled" for at least another week.

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*shows no longer on the air have their Renew/Cancel Index "frozen" at the point they left the schedule.

Want to know what the NBC Renew/Cancel Index table looked like at the end of the Fall season? Click here.


  • :oops: - certain to be cancelled by May, 2013
  • :cry: :cry:- more likely to be cancelled than renewed by May, 2013
  • :| :| :| - toss up between renewal or cancellation by May, 2013
  • :) :) :) :) - more likely to be renewed than cancelled by May, 2013
  • :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: - certain to be renewed by May, 2013

The Renew/Cancel Index is the ratio of a scripted show's new episode adults 18-49 ratings relative to the new episode ratings of the other scripted shows on its own network. It's calculated by dividing a show's new episode Live+Same Day adults 18-49 average rating by the Live+Same Day new episode average of all the new scripted show episodes on the show's own network. The network's average ratings in the calculation are not time weighted (ie. hour long shows are not weighted twice what 30 minute shows are).

(F) -Fridays: Shows airing on Fridays were renewed with significantly lower than average Indexes.

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  • Mary Ann

    So why isn’t “Deception” on the list? The first episode aired last night, right?

  • Ricky

    Oh, NBC. I really hope RVN stays strong when it returns, or else heads will roll. Next season, I hope they don’t have such an excessive hiatus – that sort of thing might work once, but as we all know lightning rarely strikes the same place twice.

    We want your votes! The Elimination Game: http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2012/12/09/play-the-elimination-game-page-2/160888/comment-page-38/#comments

  • Richard Steven Hack

    I’m still expecting Revolution ratings to start collapsing when it returns due to the long hiatus and the generally pathetic quality of the show. However, since it only has ten episodes left, it will probably get renewed before they realize the show is crap.

    Unfortunately… Seriously, this show has almost nothing going for it. Its present ratings are a mystery to me given it’s worse than The Event and about as bad as Terra Nova. I can only assume that fans of some of the actors are holding the ratings up and the general audience is still waiting to see some “there there” – and there isn’t any.

    I mean, the big reveal in the last episode was a helicopter. Whoop-de-do… Special effects ahoy! And that was only significant due to the stupid concept that all combat has been reduced to the level of the Civil War – massed formations using muskets, no less.

    A ridiculous show. Any other show with this level of stupidity would be totally ridiculed by now. So what’s holding up the ratings except befuddlement on the part of the audience?

  • http://tvbythenumbers.com Bill Gorman

    “So why isn’t “Deception” on the list? The first episode aired last night, right?”

    As noted in the post, only shows with episodes aired through Jan 6 are in the list.

  • CenterGravity

    RSN: Put down the bottle of Haterade!

  • Dan

    Whitney and Guys With Kids returning depends not only on the shows maintaining a 1.6-2.0 but also on NBC wanting to keep multi camera for next year. If they do both shows have a chance, preferably Whitney. If not then they both are done.

    Does anyone think it’s possible that NBC orders a few more eps of either comedy, since by now GWK will be done airing by late Feb/early March and Whitney will be done by March/April.

  • Sam

    GWK will be renewed! You heard it from here, season 2 is on its way.

  • Safari

    Guys with kids is a keeper! Believe it or not!

  • TV#1

    I think this might be a good fall 2013 schedule for NBC.

    The Voice

    The Voice Results
    *New Comedy*
    Go On
    Chicago Fire

    *New Drama*
    *New Drama*
    Law and Order:SVU

    *New Comedy*
    The New Normal
    *New Comedy*
    *New Comedy*

    Parks and Rec


  • @ramirescl

    Come on GWK!

  • Jim

    Just The Fall of 2013


    8:00 The Voice
    10:00 Crossbones

    8:00 The Voice
    9:00 Revolution
    10:00 Chicago Fire

    8:00 The Biggest Loser
    10:00 Parenthood

    8:00 Parks And Recreation
    8:30 New Comedy
    9:00 MJ Fox comedy
    9:30 Go On
    10:00 Law & Order: SVU

    8:00 Dracula/The New Normal(November)
    8:30 Dracula/Community(November)
    9:00 Grimm
    10:00 Dateline NBC

  • Anon

    FWIW, my old folk parents watch GWK every week. Like their other favorite shows (ABC TGIF and Blue Bloods), I think it would do relatively well on Fridays.

  • gumboot

    Curious that SVU got its best figure of the season with one of its all-time worst episodes.

  • Ultima

    @Anna Bones Clarkwood
    Does anyone think that NBC should air Revolution repeat the whole season 2 episodes a night for the 5 nights on Saturday b4 it returns?

    That’s unlikely. However, I can see NBC doing a three hour mini-marathon the Saturday before it returns and/or a repeat of the midseason finale at Sunday 8pm the night before it returns.

  • Eddy Ryan

    Chicago Fire looks to be along with Revolution the safest new dramas of the season. Both shows are small to medium hits. Chicago Fire is doing way better than expected.

    Parenthood looks safe too despite the small episode orders.

    Whitney is definitely coming back its actually only a couple of seasons away from syndication and NBC owns it through Universal so they would be stupid at this point to get behind the comedy for two years then drop it and miss out on syndication money.

    Guys with Kids will definitely return also I think last week and potentially this week were its most important weeks since there was no competition, NBC needed to see what they could get out of it. For a family show it does well in the demo too.

    I wouldn’t count out Up All Night just yet, something is telling me that the multi-cam move is a way of saving the show, I think it has to completely bomb before it gets cancelled. NBC might be trying to build a family hour of comedies next season.

  • Eddy Ryan

    @ Dan

    NBC seems fully behind building their multi-cams, they ahven’t had huge success with them just like CBS has but eventually they could one day if they stay patient with them. People have been getting the feeling like NBC is starting to abandon their single-cams but that’s not true they’ve been fully behind their new ones. I think the balance of the two formats is probably the best out of the broadcast networks right now.

    @ Anon

    That’s interesting I can see NBC working on Fridays next season and probably preparing to compete against ABC’s TGIF comedies. ABC will likely have a two-hour block next season. NBC is keeping that 8pm hour open this season for reruns because they are probably transitioning it for a comedy hour. The adult comedies might be on Wednesdays led by Whitney.

  • senor chang

    @Richard Steven Hack
    “A ridiculous show. Any other show with this level of stupidity would be totally ridiculed by now. So what’s holding up the ratings except befuddlement on the part of the audience?”

    I don’t like the show, so anybody that actually wants to like it must be stupid!

  • Mary 1

    I watched GWK last week but really only because everything opposite it was repeats. I imagine that their ratings will go down when it airs opposite new episodes of returning shows.

    i’d root for the show because I like Anthony Anderson and Tempestt Bledsoe but I think they could use a better vehicle to showcase their talent. It’s not a show I hate nor love but I can watch it if there’s nothing better on. NBC doesn’t have that many comfort food shows like it though, so that might be enough to get it renewed.

  • KT

    Only show I care about on the entire network returns in 4 weeks: SO excited for Season 2 of Smash!

  • Nick

    What NBC should do for 2013-2014:

    8: The Voice/ The Biggest Loser
    10: The Eleventh Commandment (new)

    8: The Voice
    9: Untitled Cee Lo Green Project (new)
    9:30: Go On
    10: Untitled Cuaron & Friedman Project (new)

    8: Parenthood
    9: Revolution
    10: Family Affair (new)

    8: Parks & Recreation
    8:30: The New Normal
    9: Untitled Michael J. Fox project (new)
    9:30: Untitled Peter Murrieta Project (new)
    10: Law & Order: SVU

    8: Dateline
    9: Grimm
    10: Dracula (new)

    8: Untitled MJF project (R)
    8:30: Untitled Cee Lo Green Project (R)
    9: Hench (R)
    10: Law & Order: SVU (R)

    Sun- (midseason)
    7: Dateline NBC
    8: The Celebrity Apprentice
    10: Chicago Fire

    Midseason- Community, Betty White’s Off Their Rockers

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