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1. Matthew

   Posted January 10, 2013 at 1:49 PM

   Seems you keep forgetting this.

   I’m not forgetting it, it’s just one institutions interpretation of their own data. Warming is across the board is not as bad as projected, but it is also occurring. According to Argo, according to UAH, according to surface records, all say that 2000 – 2009 was a warmer decade than 1990 – 1999. This is not the same as flatlining, and it’s the opposite of a ‘cooling trend.’

   Since we can post pretty graphs in the comments I’ll use numbers. Let’s say 2010 the global temp was 50.563. In 2011 it would be 50.343. Run for the hills we are going to melt.

   A year to year difference in global temperatures of 0.2 is significant. A trend over 5 years of +0.4 is significant. Stretch this out over the next 100 years, and it’s a problem. For reference, geological records suggest that global temperature during the last ice age was ‘only’ 6 – 12 degrees Celsius colder than where they are now; a relatively minor numerical difference, but with huge implications for specific regions of the globe.

   You may not be aware of this, but the 2012 droughts were amongst the worst natural financial disasters in U.S. history. I say you might not be aware of this, because the cost isn’t obvious in the way that things like Sandy are. Nevertheless, the damage is there, both in the agricultural industry, and in your grocery bill.

   No, a 0.22 degree year to year change doesn’t mean you’re going to melt, but it’s going to creep it’s way into your dairy bills. Maybe ten years from now it creeps it’s way into some farmer’s ability to retain his livelihood, and in fifty years it creeps into his grandson’s basic ability to meet his nutritional needs. A 0.22 degree increase is not a freaking joke.

2. Matthew

   Posted January 10, 2013 at 1:54 PM

   If it’s not governments place to support one scientific belief, then it shouldn’t be supporting any, which it does.

   Science is not a system of belief, and I.D. is not a science. I.D. is a thing that can only be taken on faith, because it is impossible to test. It has no valid place amongst things such as gravity, or tectonic theory, which are not taken on assumption, but verification.

   And now you admit that there are scientists that believe human activity is only minor impact on warming and other scientists believe human have no impact and they aren’t treated as “nut”.

   It’s not an ‘admission,’ I’m well aware of the existence of those who argue against AGW, I’m saying that conservatives always over-represent their numbers. They are a very small minority of the scientific community.

   You’re the one who’s not being intellectually consistent here – you cry about government intervention in science, and say these people are treated as nuts, then completely undercut your own argument with that MIT link. It’s notable that Lindzen has been the most vocal, credentialed voice in AGW skepticism, and yet he somehow retains his job at MIT, and is respected by his peers and students there. You cannot extricate your AGW conclusions from your political beliefs, as evidenced by your constant references to government.

3. Jeff

   Posted January 10, 2013 at 2:24 PM

   @dougZ, please read my comment, Bush 41 received overwhelming GOP support for his executive order banning particular assault weapons. Now with a Democrat in the office it seems the GOP have their panties in a knot over the issue.

   @ratboy, “solyndra, f&f, Benghazi”……in the past now, so I suppose with your logic you really can’t bring up what President Obama did.

   You’ve complained a lot about the actions of former Governor Granholm, former President Clinton, former President Carter, by your current position on former politicians seems you are quite guilty of the same. So relax and stay focus on what the debate is about. Deflecting and repeating a silly personal dislike is not a cure all.

4. Doug Z

   Posted January 10, 2013 at 2:29 PM

   Jeff

   Bush was the 2nd worst President in history. We are in trouble. BHO is one.

5. Doug Z

   Posted January 10, 2013 at 3:00 PM

   When the New York Times, the Washington Post, and the Wall Street Journal all have front-page stories about global warming, you know something’s up. That’s what happened Wednesday, and it smells as if the Obama Administration is gearing up for a major push vis-à-vis global warming.

6. Doug Z

   Posted January 10, 2013 at 3:03 PM

   This desire for a trade deal comes as the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration came out today with its report stating that temperatures in the contiguous United States in 2012 were the highest in more than a century.

   This, of course, is inaccurate; as meteorologist Joe Bastardi points out, “If you used the stations used in 1930s — in other words –measured temps today with what we used in 1930s, it is not warmest yr on record.” And the evidence is abundant from numerous sources that global warming across the planet is a myth.