CBS: No Ratings For Old Men, 'Vegas' Still Likely To Be Canceled

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January 29th, 2013

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Our Renew / Cancel Index predicts the network's decision on renewal or cancellation for scripted broadcast primetime shows by the end of the 2012-13 season in May, 2013. (includes results from December 31, 2012- January 27, 2013):

Program Status Renew/ Cancel Index
Made In Jersey (F)* canceled 0.36
Blue Bloods (F) :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: 0.52
CSI:NY (F) :cry: :cry: 0.53
Vegas :cry: :cry: 0.56
The Good Wife :| :| :| 0.61
The Mentalist :| :| :| 0.72
Partners* canceled 0.79
CSI :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: 0.86
Elementary :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: 0.88
Hawaii Five-0 :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: 0.96
NCIS: Los Angeles :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: 1.00
Criminal Minds :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: 1.06
Person Of Interest :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: 1.18
Mike & Molly :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: 1.20
NCIS :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: 1.30
How I Met Your Mother :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: (renewed 1/30) 1.34
2 Broke Girls :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: 1.37
Two and a Half Men** :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: 1.53
The Big Bang Theory renewed 2.20

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If you're thinking, "Gee, there must not be much to write about for CBS" you'd be right. Vegas continues as "likely to be canceled". I'd love for there to be as many crazy Fan Excuse Bingo players for it as there were for Harry's Law last season, but that doesn't look likely. Unlike Harry's Law, which had a lot of irrlevant total viewers compared to the rest of the NBC dramas which gave hope to the misguided, the total viewership of Vegas is nothing special compared to other CBS dramas.

The only other thing to talk about "Which of CSI:NY, The Good Wife or The Mentalist gets canceled?" will be back next week. I bet you just can't wait!

Note to the nitpicky commenters, although its just about as certain as it gets, while the cast and crew have signed on for another season, How I Met Your Mother has not yet been officially renewed. 1/30 update. Now officially renewed.

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** The Renew/Cancel Index does not attempt to predict shows ending because the cast or production company chooses to end them. These shows have the ratings for renewal, but rumored cast/production company moves may end the shows.

From now through the end of the broadcast season in May, the Renew/Cancel Index values will only be calculated using new episodes airing during 2013. However, until new episodes of a show air in 2013, I will keep the "old"  Fall predictions in the table.

Want to know what the CBS Renew/Cancel Index table looked like at the end of the Fall season? Click here.

Notes:

  • :oops: - certain to be cancelled by May, 2013
  • :cry: :cry:- more likely to be cancelled than renewed by May, 2013
  • :| :| :| - toss up between renewal or cancellation by May, 2013
  • :) :) :) :) - more likely to be renewed than cancelled by May, 2013
  • :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: - certain to be renewed by May, 2013

The Renew/Cancel Index is the ratio of a scripted show's new episode adults 18-49 ratings relative to the new episode ratings of the other scripted shows on its own network. It's calculated by dividing a show's new episode Live+Same Day adults 18-49 average rating by the Live+Same Day new episode average of all the new scripted show episodes on the show's own network. The network's average ratings in the calculation are not time weighted (ex. hour long shows are not weighted twice what 30 minute shows are).

(F) -Fridays: Shows airing on Fridays were renewed with significantly lower than average Indexes.

How would the Renew / Cancel Index Have Done Predicting Last Season's Scripted Show Fates? Check out how the Renew / Cancel Index predicted renewals and cancellations from past television seasons.

 
  • Dan

    The only thing is CSI NY and Vegas will most certainly be gone.

    As for The Mentalist and The Good Wife. Its a situation where CBS can cancel both or neither or one or the other. The Mentalist is higher rated then the Good Wife but TGW has syndication needs. CBS could axe both and rebuild Sundays or they can keep both if Golden Boy flops and they want to move one to fridays. At this point we likely wont know until May and its doubtful that either will drop below bubble status until then.

    @Bill – Two weeks from now Rules of Engagement can be added to the headline, and less recycling :). Even though personally while Rules will probably do well, ratings dont matter for the series at this point. It has fulfilled syndication needs and CBS has too many comedies that perform at the same level or better. In other words Ratings say renewal, CBS says we’re done.

  • Ryan

    CBS give TGW writers a heads up. It’s my favorite show and I want a good finale. But it needs to end now.

  • Dan S

    Bill had to mention my beloved Harry’s Law. Unfortunately the writing is on the wall for Vegas & being on the number 1 network for most viewers I realize it’s in the toilet ratings wise. I always thought it would work well on cable & get the MA rating to liven things up more.

  • Dan

    @Ryan – CBS never lets a veteran know when its cancelled until May which is why CSI Miami got no finale and CSI NY has crafted 2 finales. The only exception is when They cut Mediums order essentially cancelling it. They will tout Vegas for being highly rated in total viewers but when it comes down to next seasons schedule, Vegas wont be on it. Plus I bet the new NCIS spinoff will air with NCIS and NCIS La tuesdays next season. So The Good Wife would be lucky if it got a short final season.

  • DW

    @ purple. you cant put a new show on @ 9 on sunday in september with football overrun and sunday night football and the walking dead a competition. you need a POI or criminal minds in there as a proven rating winner. sundays are the new fridays for CBS.

  • DeanW

    CBS should cancel The Good Wife in May. At the end of the Season the Show will have 90 episodes which is enough for Syndication. The Mentalist and CSI: NY are still doing well in their difficult slot.
    The Good Wife can’t move to Friday because of its low ratings. Plus Blue Bloods will probably be canceled next Season and if TGW moves to Friday it means CBS will have two cancel two veterans on Friday next Season.
    Elementary or Hawaii Five-0 are more compatible with The Mentalist and that’s why TGW should get axed in May.

  • joel

    I could see CBS temporarily expanding their sitcom time by an hour for a year or two because let’s face it: HIMYM, 2.5 Men, and ROE will all be ending within the next couple of years and CBS will need a lot of pilots/sitcom launches in order to find and establish their replacements.

  • JacobYates

    As long as Vegas stays at likely cancellation and doesn’t dip to certain cancellation, I’ll hold out hope for a renewal of some kind (summer series or picked up by another network).
    Vegas has no competition for tonight except for Dateline which struggles to draw a 1.5 against no competition on a Friday night. Jimmy Kimmel Live is a rerun tonight so expect to see Vegas’ ratings rebound at least to the high 1s or possibly (but unlikely) into the 2s.
    While were on the subject of ratings, what kind of ratings would it take to get Vegas back to being on the bubble?

  • Dan

    @Joel – I thought they would expand the Thursday night comedy by 1 hour last May but Person of Interest was still doing well and that would be 1 less drama to air. Instead they went with being predictable by bumping Rules to midseason and airing HIMYM Partners 2BG and M&M on mondays while airing 2 powerhouses TBBT and TAAHM on Thursdays. Next season I bet they will do the same thing, save for maybe having Rules however.

    My guess,
    Rules will end this May (2013)
    HIMYM will end next May (2014)
    Two and a Half Men will end either May 2014 or May 2015

  • Dan

    @JacobYates – Even if Vegas stays at 2 Smiley faces, it is still getting cancelled. It gets beat by Parenthood despite having a mammoth NCIS LA lead in. CBS already knows they want the new NCIS spinoff airing on Tyesdays with NCIS and NCIS LA, and they cut Vegas’s order. How would they keep it? Unforgettable did better than Vegas is doing now and it still got cancelled (initially)

  • PurpleDrasi

    @DW – OK, I see your point about not wanting to put a new show on Sunday. Still, I just don’t see CBS moving one of the shows you mentioned there. CM is doing too good a job for them on Wednesday against Idol and Elementary and POI are still gaining an audience. I suppose CSI is a possibility.

  • Dan

    @PurpleDrasi – It is possible for CBS to move CSI to Fridays at 9 (back to its original slot) to replace CSI NY, so CBS can premiere a new series Wed at 10 and they could move Hawaii 5-0 to Sundays at 10 with either Mentalist or Good Wife airing at 9.

    Sundays
    8:00 Amazing Race
    9:00 Mentalist or Good Wife
    10:00 Hawaii 5-0

    Monday
    10:00 New Drama
    Tuesday
    8:00 NCIS
    9:00 NCIS LA Spinoff
    10:00 NCIS LA

    Wednesday
    8:00 Survivor
    9:00 Criminal Minds
    10:00 New Drama

    Friday
    8:00 Undercover Boss
    9:00 CSI
    10:00 Blue Bloods

    I don’t think CBS wants to try a new series on Sundays or Fridays so by moving veterans to those days, CBS could premiere a new drama Mondays at 10, Tuesdays at 9 (or 10, NCIS spinoff) and Wednesday at 10.

  • JacobYates

    @dan
    Thank you for addressing only one of the things that I asked about. You only answered my question on the one issue that would allow you to insult Vegas. Nothing about what kind of ratings it would get tonight, or anything about how it could get back to on the bubble. I also already knew that CBS would never keep Vegas on their fall schedule. I asked about it possibly becoming a summer series.

    So yeah. Thanks for nothing moron.

  • Ultima

    @DW
    you cant put a new show on @ 9 on sunday in september with football overrun

    Why does everyone think that football overruns hurt the 9pm show? It helps The Good Wife, why wouldn’t it help a new show?

  • Ultima

    @Dan

    I doubt that CBS will move CSI, which is currently their highest rated 10pm drama.

    My guesses as to their new drama timeslots next season…
    Tuesday 9 or 10pm
    Friday 8 or 9pm
    Sunday 9pm or Monday 10pm (or both if they don’t want to premiere a Friday show)

  • KJ Styles

    @DW- The Mentalist is doing as well as any show could do in it’s timeslot. While The Good Wife is owned by CBS, it has never drawn good ratings and it’s the only non-rookie drama on the network without a syndication deal.

    The Mentalist has proven that it can draw, The Good Wife hasn’t. The only way I see Good Wife getting renewed is if someone picks it up for syndication, and even then I only see it getting 13 episodes next season ala Chuck and Fringe. (4 and a half seasons of subpar ratings and then done).

    I’m not saying that The Mentalist is a certain renewal, but I like it’s chances the best out of the bubble shows because it can still deliver satisfactory numbers wherever you place it on the schedule.

  • DW

    the good wife was drawing the same ratings at the start of last season as the mentalist is doing this season. the mentalist is heading into its 6th season which means it will cost more to produce. will cbs want to pay for a show that generates a 2.0 average or replace it with a new cheaper show?.

  • tv#1

    A possible CBS schedule next season could be…

    Mon:
    How I Met Your Mother
    *MOM*
    2 Broke Girls
    Mike and Molly
    Survivor

    Tue:
    NCIS
    *New Drama*
    Criminal Minds

    Wed:
    NCIS:LA
    *NCIS:LA Spinoff*
    Person of Interest

    Thur:
    The Big Bang Theory
    *Super Clyde*
    *The Crazy Ones*
    Two and a Half Men
    CSI

    Fri:
    The Mentalist
    Hawaii 5-0
    Blue Bloods

    Sun:
    60 Minutes
    The Amazing Race
    Elementary
    The Good Wife

    Mid-Season:
    Rules of Engagement
    Golden Boy

  • jake3988

    I agree with a previous poster: With both Two and a Half Men and HIMYM both likely to end next year… I think CBS could possibly use this opportunity to expand their comedies by an hour for a year while they have the chance, since their dramas are doing so very poorly compared to their comedies.

    Of course, that being said… the poorly performing ones are all on at 10pm. Perhaps CBS would be wise to move some dramas back to 9 and stick some comedies at 10pm rather than vice-versa. I know it’s unconventional, but I think it’s worth a shot.

  • Michael

    CBS produces “The Good Wife” and not “The Mentalist” so in a close race, that may be enough to give TGW the edge.

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