CBS: No Ratings For Old Men, 'Vegas' Still Likely To Be Canceled

Categories: Cancel/Renew CBS Shows,Cancel/Renew Index

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January 29th, 2013

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Our Renew / Cancel Index predicts the network's decision on renewal or cancellation for scripted broadcast primetime shows by the end of the 2012-13 season in May, 2013. (includes results from December 31, 2012- January 27, 2013):

Program Status Renew/ Cancel Index
Made In Jersey (F)* canceled 0.36
Blue Bloods (F) :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: 0.52
CSI:NY (F) :cry: :cry: 0.53
Vegas :cry: :cry: 0.56
The Good Wife :| :| :| 0.61
The Mentalist :| :| :| 0.72
Partners* canceled 0.79
CSI :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: 0.86
Elementary :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: 0.88
Hawaii Five-0 :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: 0.96
NCIS: Los Angeles :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: 1.00
Criminal Minds :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: 1.06
Person Of Interest :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: 1.18
Mike & Molly :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: 1.20
NCIS :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: 1.30
How I Met Your Mother :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: (renewed 1/30) 1.34
2 Broke Girls :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: 1.37
Two and a Half Men** :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: 1.53
The Big Bang Theory renewed 2.20

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If you're thinking, "Gee, there must not be much to write about for CBS" you'd be right. Vegas continues as "likely to be canceled". I'd love for there to be as many crazy Fan Excuse Bingo players for it as there were for Harry's Law last season, but that doesn't look likely. Unlike Harry's Law, which had a lot of irrlevant total viewers compared to the rest of the NBC dramas which gave hope to the misguided, the total viewership of Vegas is nothing special compared to other CBS dramas.

The only other thing to talk about "Which of CSI:NY, The Good Wife or The Mentalist gets canceled?" will be back next week. I bet you just can't wait!

Note to the nitpicky commenters, although its just about as certain as it gets, while the cast and crew have signed on for another season, How I Met Your Mother has not yet been officially renewed. 1/30 update. Now officially renewed.

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*shows no longer on the air have their Renew/Cancel Index "frozen" at the point they left the schedule.

** The Renew/Cancel Index does not attempt to predict shows ending because the cast or production company chooses to end them. These shows have the ratings for renewal, but rumored cast/production company moves may end the shows.

From now through the end of the broadcast season in May, the Renew/Cancel Index values will only be calculated using new episodes airing during 2013. However, until new episodes of a show air in 2013, I will keep the "old"  Fall predictions in the table.

Want to know what the CBS Renew/Cancel Index table looked like at the end of the Fall season? Click here.

Notes:

  • :oops: - certain to be cancelled by May, 2013
  • :cry: :cry:- more likely to be cancelled than renewed by May, 2013
  • :| :| :| - toss up between renewal or cancellation by May, 2013
  • :) :) :) :) - more likely to be renewed than cancelled by May, 2013
  • :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: - certain to be renewed by May, 2013

The Renew/Cancel Index is the ratio of a scripted show's new episode adults 18-49 ratings relative to the new episode ratings of the other scripted shows on its own network. It's calculated by dividing a show's new episode Live+Same Day adults 18-49 average rating by the Live+Same Day new episode average of all the new scripted show episodes on the show's own network. The network's average ratings in the calculation are not time weighted (ex. hour long shows are not weighted twice what 30 minute shows are).

(F) -Fridays: Shows airing on Fridays were renewed with significantly lower than average Indexes.

How would the Renew / Cancel Index Have Done Predicting Last Season's Scripted Show Fates? Check out how the Renew / Cancel Index predicted renewals and cancellations from past television seasons.

 
  • Jay

    Cancel The Good Wife already!

  • Scott

    People that watch NCIS LA and think that Federal agents run around shooting people week in and week out, thwart foreign threats without the help of the FBI and are able to disarm explosives…. Lol. Most of those viewers couldn’t find Vegas on a map so it’s no wonder they don’t watch the show.

    I’m solidly in the key demo. If 18-30 year olds dictate what is on tv we are all in trouble. Ill never understand why it isn’t the people with the actual disposable income that advertisers care about.

  • Monty

    I think the biggest reason the 18-30 demo is the key is the fact that older people have a tendency to be locked into the products they buy and be loyal to them. Younger viewers are more likely to be affected by commercials to try new products

  • Richard Steven Hack

    Nothing for me to comment on either, as long as HFO and PoI stay strong. :-)

  • Scott

    Monty I watch NCIS La only because its on after NCIS. It’s a stupid and increasingly ridiculous show. Vegas is a well written show. Put it on around the mentalist or blue bloods and they’d all do well. NCIS LA is entertaining but putting Vegas behind it is like putting The View on followed by WWF wrestling.

    You will never keep the demo from NCIS LA because those viewers are probably busy watching reruns of South Park or whatever. NCIS LA is as dumb as CSI Miami and is about as ridiculous. Like I said in tonight’s episode we have agents running all over the city shooting people, disarming explosives etc.

    Move Vegas to Friday night around Blue Bloods. They’d win their slots each week.

  • Del

    Hi Scott,
    I agree that Vegas is a well written & acted show. I completely disagree with the host of this forum (sorry Bill) that it will be cancelled by the end of the year – respectfully I do acknowledge his expertise & experience may prove me wrong.
    Nevertheless, because of the quality of writing, acting & total viewership remaining above 10 million all year – in its rookie year – I simply can’t accept it will be dismissed so quickly by the network in order to meet an outdated advertising criteria which focuses on the need to reach the minimal disposable income of only 2 million casual viewing tiny boppers who seem to find entertainment in ‘dancing’ ‘vampires’ with ‘supernatural’ abilities.
    -honestly, with the excessive dribble that airs on television today they should worry more about losing their affluent aging demographics to a local library with no advertising exposure.

  • spycomics

    @Scott and @Del I tried to make the same arguments here last week about Vegas and its, I say, mistaken/misguided placement on the “Likely to be Cancelled” list. I’ve got to say, you’ve said it even better than I did, and its nice to know I’m not the only one that doesn’t think CBS will just throw away a quality show like Vegas and its 10 million viewers. Though, if Vegas episode orders have indeed been cut back as one previous poster said, I’m less confident of my position. and @Bill Gorman Thanks for the feature article!

  • Scott

    Sadly it’s all about the money. CBS will bring us NCIS Sesame Street before they give a show like Vegas time to develop.

    This is where network television is heading. It’s for morons. I am in the demographic that they covet. On Sunday nights I watch showtime from 9-11. Mondays I watch the history channel during those same hours. Tuesday I watch CBS, Wednesday I watch CBS mainly because of the original NCIS, Vegas, and the original csi. Thursday is POI and Friday blue bloods. In watch modern family on abc that’s about it and there’s nothing on NBC aside of SNL that I watch.

    The reason Vegas loses the demographics advertisers want is simply because the average person watching NCIS LA is not that smart. LA loses share from the original and it continues throughout that hour. The storyline is usually so bad that by 10pm most have moved on. The show continues to get more ridiculous each week and is about as realistic as magyver as this point.

    Move Vegas to Friday nights with Blue Bloods. That’s where it belongs. You already have the huge blue bloods audience of older viewers. Affluent older viewers with actual money to spend. Put NCIS Sesame Street on after the other two.

  • Michael

    @Scott,

    Are you aware that CBS owns Showtime? It sounds as though they’re getting the intelligent viewers as well as the morons.

  • JacobYates

    @Scott, del, and spycomics
    Finally there are some people on here that agree with me! Every point that you made was true and I have been trying to get people to see those points on here for quite some time. Thank you for giving me hope and keep watching Vegas.

    And Scott. NCIS Sesame Street. That was classic!

  • American

    Vegas has become such a drag…unfortunately, Tuesdays @ 10 haven’t been too great for CBS in awhile, so what else are they going to put there?

  • B. McGarry

    If they cancel the good wife and Vegas, I am cancelling CBS. Bluebloods is awesome too. Get rid of those cheesy reality shows!

  • JacobYates

    @B. McGarry
    100% agree. After fox canceled terra nova and Alcatraz I would have just stopped watching them if not for raising hope. Unfortunately, like fox, I am bound to CBS by their comedies.

  • http://tvbythenumbers.com Bill Gorman

    “Though, if Vegas episode orders have indeed been cut back as one previous poster said, I’m less confident of my position.”

    That single episode order reduction is likely just for logistical scheduling purposes and is probably irrelevant to the (grim) future of the show. Something in their Tuesday schedule changed and CBS found they had one more Vegas episode ordered than they had 10pm slots they wanted to air a new one in, and the reduction solved that “problem”.

    “@Scott, del, and spycomics
    Finally there are some people on here that agree with me! Every point that you made was true and I have been trying to get people to see those points on here for quite some time. Thank you for giving me hope and keep watching Vegas.”

    Glad everybody’s in agreement. Everybody but CBS, that is.

  • http://tvbythenumbers.com Bill Gorman

    “If they cancel the good wife and Vegas, I am cancelling CBS. “

    Definitely still in the third of the TV Fan Five Stages Of Grief.

  • Susie K.

    Bill, please explain to me why total viewership doesn’t count, only the 18-49 numbers. It’s not as if people stop spending money when they reach 50 years of age. There aren’t many things advertised that doesn’t apply to older viewers as well as younger viewers. I can’t understand why Vegas would be under consideration for cancellation when it sits at #19 for the season.

  • Del

    Hello Bill,
    you seem very confident (“irrelevant to the grim future of the show” & “third of tv fan five stages of grief”) that vegas will be cancelled. Out of curiosity, do you meet with the executives at CBS or are your predictions purely (and notably successfully) based on your statistical models ?
    Point of note, i stopped watching Fox network after they cancelled Terra Nova – i just value my time more than settling for poor quality or mindless programming. Sadly, Terra Nova’s excessive budget had doomed it from the very beginning. Vegas is nowhere near as expensive to produce as Terra Nova, has more viewers and ergo receives more exposure for the network versus its competing networks programs, so … I confidently look forward to watching Vegas next year on CBS ( is this stage 4 ? )
    Cheers & thanks in advance for your clarification.

  • Scott

    Bill, when can we expect NCIS Sesame Street or CSI Housewives of NJ?

    NCIS was down 5%
    NCIS LA was up 15%
    Vegas was up 19%

    Most improved show of the night for CBS? Vegas

  • Holly

    Scott,

    You’re right, they should cancel NCIS since it actually lost viewers and save Vegas…or not..

  • TVlover

    Here some CSI NY info to factor in: CBS approached all the actors last week and offered one year contract extensions. In addition, none of the sets will be struck after wrap next week and the production and writers offices will remain open throughout the hiatus. Does that sound like certain cancellation? IMO it’s still a toss up and mister Moonves will not decide until he sees all the pilots come in. I would guess CSI NY gets a short 13 epaidoe order and airs midseason.

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