CBS: 'Vegas' Is Certain To Be Canceled No Matter What Happens With 'Golden Boy'

Categories: Cancel/Renew CBS Shows,Cancel/Renew Index

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February 26th, 2013

Click this link for the latest CBS renewal / cancellation information:


Our Renew / Cancel Index predicts the network's decision on renewal or cancellation for scripted broadcast primetime shows by the end of the 2012-13 season in May, 2013. (includes results from December 31, 2012- February 24, 2013):

Program Status Renew/ Cancel Index
Made In Jersey (F)* canceled 0.36
CSI:NY (F)* :cry: :cry: 0.50
Blue Bloods (F) :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: 0.51
Vegas :oops: 0.57
The Good Wife :| :| :| 0.57
The Mentalist :| :| :| 0.68
Hawaii Five-0 :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: 0.78
Partners* canceled 0.79
CSI :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: 0.81
Elementary :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: 0.83
Criminal Minds :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: 1.00
NCIS: Los Angeles :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: 1.03
Rules of Engagement :| :| :| 1.03
Person Of Interest :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: 1.11
Mike & Molly :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: 1.14
How I Met Your Mother renewed 1.28
NCIS renewed 1.30
2 Broke Girls :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: 1.31
Two and a Half Men** :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: 1.43
The Big Bang Theory renewed 2.07

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With the premiere tonight of CBS' freshman drama Golden Boy, it seems well timed to take a closer look at the hopeful comments in the vein of "If Golden Boy fails, X will be saved".

Let's review the CBS drama situation, again, for the 473rd time.

  • CBS has premiered three new dramas each of the last seven Fall's.
  • Assuming CBS keeps the same number of drama hours next Fall, they'll need to cancel three of their Spring dramas to make room (ignore the already dead Made In Jersey, it is irrelevant). Currently, I am predicting those three canceled shows will be Vegas (certainly), CSI:NY (likely), and one of The Good Wife, The Mentalist or Golden Boy.
While the most common hypotheticals lean towards bad news for more dramas:
  • You think CBS will expand their sitcom time by an hour? Cancel another Spring drama.
  • You think CBS might air Undercover Boss at 8pm Friday next Fall? Cancel another Spring drama.
  • You think CBS will time share their dramas in partial seasons? Increase their drama time on Sunday-Friday? Or air new dramas on Saturday? Check your medication.

Better to Follow The Bear, Than Be Chased By Him. This season you can follow the Cancellation Bear on Twitter via @TheCancelBear. The Cancellation Bear will retweet all the Renew/Cancel Index post titles and links as well as engage in a little more back and forth banter than we do on our standard @TVbytheNumbers Twitter feed.
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*shows no longer on the air have their Renew/Cancel Index "frozen" at the point they left the schedule.

** The Renew/Cancel Index does not attempt to predict shows ending because the cast or production company chooses to end them. These shows have the ratings for renewal, but rumored cast/production company moves may end the shows.

From now through the end of the broadcast season in May, the Renew/Cancel Index values will only be calculated using new episodes airing during 2013. However, until new episodes of a show air in 2013, I will keep the "old"  Fall predictions in the table.

Want to know what the CBS Renew/Cancel Index table looked like at the end of the Fall season? Click here.

Notes:

  • :oops: - certain to be cancelled by May, 2013
  • :cry: :cry:- more likely to be cancelled than renewed by May, 2013
  • :| :| :| - toss up between renewal or cancellation by May, 2013
  • :) :) :) :) - more likely to be renewed than cancelled by May, 2013
  • :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: - certain to be renewed by May, 2013

The Renew/Cancel Index is the ratio of a scripted show's new episode adults 18-49 ratings relative to the new episode ratings of the other scripted shows on its own network. It's calculated by dividing a show's new episode Live+Same Day adults 18-49 average rating by the Live+Same Day new episode average of all the new scripted show episodes on the show's own network. The network's average ratings in the calculation are not time weighted (ex. hour long shows are not weighted twice what 30 minute shows are).

(F) -Fridays: Shows airing on Fridays were renewed with significantly lower than average Indexes.

How would the Renew / Cancel Index Have Done Predicting Last Season's Scripted Show Fates? Check out how the Renew / Cancel Index predicted renewals and cancellations from past television seasons.

 
  • Jon

    @ Don…..I just don’t see CBS wasting their new NCIS spinoff on a friday night. I would expect it to air either on tuesday after the other two NCIS, or on wednesday before criminal minds

  • Holly

    Cancel CSI NY and put Vegas on Fridays.

    And premiere only one new show. Yep, very logical.

  • Jim

    @Elijah

    “Cancel CSI NY and put Vegas on Fridays. Oh, wait, that would make sense! My bad for thinking logically.”

    Not only are you a douchebag. You’re an idiot with bad taste.

    @Brenda

    I’m already done with CBS. I was finished with it when they canceled CSI:Miami. The only shows I will ever watch on that network are CSI and CSI:NY another show they got no business canceling. All the rest of their shows are unwatchable crap with a few exceptions but those exceptions I will never watch again until they go to syndication cuz I refuse to watch CBS (except for the 2 remaining CSI’s) ever again. CBS is on thin ice with the new crap their bringing to the network and they know it cuz none of their new shows are cutting it. They have to renew CSI:NY it’s as simple as that. Suck it Elijah!

  • Ultima

    @Brenda
    Please do not make me change my loyality!

    You keep using that word; I do not think it means what you think it means.

  • Ultima

    @Elijah
    They’re going to cancel Vegas for not getting the ratings that the Big Bang Theory gets

    Nonsense. Nothing else gets the same ratings as The Big Bang Theory on CBS, yet they will renew more than a dozen scripted shows this year.

    Vegas is going to get canceled because it is one of the lowest rated dramas on CBS. The only drama with lower ratings than Vegas that they are likely to renew is Blue Bloods (which both airs on Friday and is within a season on syndication).

    they seem to forget that not even the Big Bang Theory got the ratings it gets now in it’s first season

    What’s your point? It seems to be that because The Big Bang Theory is doing better now than it was doing in 2007-08, that it wasn’t doing good then. That, again, is complete nonsense. The Big Bang Theory did very well in its freshman season – so well that they promoted it from the 8:30pm timeslot to 8:00pm for the second half of the season.

    Remember Seinfeld or Cheers?

    Do you remember Seinfeld? It did very well during its first season. Sure, it struggled a bit and was a bubble show the following year, but for the most part it performed decently compared to the rest of the network (which was not dominant in the early 90s) before eventually becoming a megahit.

    As for Cheers, NBC flat out sucked in the early 80s. Cheers did bad compared to shows on ABC and CBS, but was still renewable on NBC.

    CBS is currently the #1 network and Vegas doesn’t even have the ratings to be considered a bubble show. It has nothing in common with Seinfeld and Cheers.

    Cancel CSI NY and put Vegas on Fridays

    In order to keep Vegas, CBS would need to cancel two veteran dramas, not one (as they are obviously going to renew Elementary). You also assume they won’t cut back their drama hours or simply let Unforgettable run into the season (likely being replaced by Undercover Boss in November).

    It’s not as simply as cancelling CSI:NY and replacing it with Vegas. CBS would also need to cancel The Good Wife and possibly The Mentalist to keep Vegas.

    My bad for thinking logically.

    You’re not.

  • Toni Brown

    I guess how I feel about Vegas will not count, but it should not be cancelled. T should be moved to Friday or Saturday night when there is nothing good to watch.That be better and make more sense then a cancellation because those of us who love it and tape it each week, will be happy!!!! I love the whole cast and the show itself. CBS is not too smart sometimes. I guess that is why I watch other stations more.

  • Ultima

    @Toni Brown
    That be better and make more sense then a cancellation because those of us who love it and tape it each week, will be happy! … CBS is not too smart sometimes.

    The cold, hard reality is that CBS is a business tyring to make money. Cancelling Vegas is the smart decision, even if it makes the show’s fans unhappy.

  • pag

    How can a great show like VEGAS be cancelled & CBS renew such garbage as 2 B

    roke Girls. Vegas has an excellent cast, great
    Writing & a wonderful following of vintage timeline. Does CBS feel all of it’s audience are morons?

  • Bumfuzzled

    @ Toni Brown- CBS would not be pleased to read that you “tape” Vegas and therefore zip through their ads. Exeuctives do track which shows are taped (dvr’d).

  • Chris C

    I like Vegas, and regularly watch CSI: NY. I stopped watching Mentalist a while back. It just got repetitive and it was at a time when I’d much rather be asleep. Elementary is a much better show, in my opinion. I’m pleased they got rid of CSI: Miami, but NY still has some spark left in it. I haven’t even caught Golden Boy. I’ll probably skip it. Didn’t look interesting. Too many shows just like it over the years, judging from the previews. I’d be pleased if Vegas stayed. But, I understand CBS can’t keep everything. Problem is, if they do indeed keep trying to push in more and more new dramas, the competition will be so insane that they will not keep loyal viewers. Many of us are the people who have watched series for as many as 10 year runs. If they keep trying to axe up to half a dozen shows every season, there will be no room for longevity, and many of us will go to cable, where shows seem to run longer at times.

    I think CBS needs to focus more on comedy. Two and A Half Men could leave. I don’t know anyone who watches it anymore.

  • Bumfuzzled

    @ Chris C- no one watches 2 1/2 Men? Wow. It’s like Yogi Beara once said- “that place is so crowded no one goes there anymore”.

  • Ultima

    @Chris C
    If they keep trying to axe up to half a dozen shows every season, there will be no room for longevity, and many of us will go to cable, where shows seem to run longer at times.

    Are you insane?! You’re seriously complaining about longevity on CBS?! 8O

    They typically have four hours of new programming in the fall (three dramas and one or two sitcoms); given the sustained period over which they’ve maintained that rate of new programming, it’s likely an all time low for show turnover on a major network.

  • john

    I think what would have been perfect scheduling would have had “Vegas Night” on CBS and back to backed CSI and Vegas. New school old school crime dramas in the same city. That way Vegas could have fed off of the CSI audience.

  • 20mg

    2013/2014 schedule

    Mondays:

    8:00PM-8:30PM How I Met Your Mother
    8:30PM-9:00PM Mike & Molly
    9:00PM-9:30PM 2 Broke Girls
    9:30PM-10:00PM Crazy Ones (new)
    10:00PM-11:00PM Beverly Hills Cop (new)

    Teusdays:

    8:00PM-9:00PM NCIS
    9:00-10:00PM NCIS:RED (new)
    10:00PM-11:00PM Hawaii 5-0

    Wednesdays:

    8:00-9:00PM Person of Interest
    9:00-10:00PM Intelligence (new)
    10:00-11:00PM Criminal Minds

    THURSDAYS:

    8:00-8:30PM Two and a Half Men
    8:30-9:00PM Mom (new)
    9:00-9:30PM The Big Bang Theory
    9:30-10:00PM Super Clyde (new)
    10:00-11:00PM Hostages/The Ordained (new) or NCIS:LA

    FRIDAY:

    8:00-9:00PM NCIS:LA or Hostages/The Ordained
    9:00-10:00PM CSI
    10:00-11:00PM Blue Bloods

    SUNDAY:

    8:00-9:00PM The Amazing Race/Survivor
    9:00-10:00PM Elementary
    10:00-11:00PM The Mentalist

    What do u think? Any feedback would be great.

  • Tina46

    I can’t believe that anyone would ever think of cancelling Vegas !!!!!!!!!!!!! It’s the best series I’ve seen in years and I never miss one…. Where did it go ???? it was not on last week so I’m trying to find out why ??????????????????

    There are many other shows that don’t deserve to be on air… why take Vegas away from us ????????

  • John

    POI is my favorite show on network TV. I’ll watch it whenever it’s on, but I’d like to see it stay around the time it is now.

    I do like Vegas, but it wouldn’t be the end of the world for me if it were cancelled. Some of you take this stuff way too seriously. For that matter I don’t see why some of you find it necessary to repond negatively to anybody who is a fan of the show. This reflects on you.

  • sheila weeks

    CBS does not need to cancel Vegas.

  • Andy

    The Good Wife is the best show on the air and it gets very respectable ratings. Who cares about the stupid demo. I am over the demo age maybe someone should cancel me!

  • Holly

    @Andy,

    Who cares about the stupid demo.

    People who are trying to make money in the TV business. Whether you like it or not, ad rates, and therefore revenue, for primetime broadcast shows are set based on the 18-49 demo.

  • Msb

    YOU CANNOT CANCEL VEGAS!!! IT I S THE BEST SHOW OUT THERE!!!!!! NO!!!!!!!!!

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