NBC: 'Grimm' Is Certain To Be Renewed; Why Do Fans Want It Moved From Friday?

Categories: Cancel/Renew Index,Cancel/Renew NBC Shows

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March 19th, 2013

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Our Renew / Cancel Index predicts the network's decision on renewal or cancellation for scripted broadcast primetime shows by the end of the 2012-13 season in May, 2013.  (includes results from December 31, 2012- March 10, 2013):

Program Status Renew/ Cancel Index
Do No Harm* canceled 0.50
Smash canceled 0.65
Animal Practice* canceled 0.66
The New Normal :oops: 0.77
1600 Penn :oops: 0.78
Guys With Kids* :oops: 0.81
Whitney :| :| :| 0.90
Deception :oops: 0.90
Go On :| :| :| 0.90
Community :| :| :| 0.92
30 Rock* final season complete 0.93
Grimm (F) :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: 1.01
Parenthood* :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: 1.08
Parks & Recreation :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: 1.14
Law & Order: SVU :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: 1.21
Chicago Fire :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: 1.43
The Office final season 1.43
Up All Night :oops: pending
Revolution :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: pending

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The Cancellation Bear has been predicting that Grimm was certain to be renewed all season, why put it in the headline now? First, it hadn't been in the headline all season. Second, the headline question is one that often comes up in our comments. Third, the bear's still treading water on making any more definitive predictions on the three "toss up" sitcoms. (Community's dive back to a 1.1 rating last week got the bear to tread water even longer).

Back to the headline question. If a show is certain to be renewed, why should fans care when it airs? (other than personal scheduling like "I party on Fridays").

Typical responses to that question are along the lines of "It deserves better". What does that even mean? The best a TV show can hope for (from a fan's perspective) is renewal.

To pre-emptively answer those who'll howl that Smash has not been canceled, shows that are moved to Saturday in the middle of their run are canceled. To argue otherwise makes you look silly. Or worse.

Better to Follow The Bear, Than Be Chased By Him. This season you can follow the Cancellation Bear on Twitter via @TheCancelBear. The Cancellation Bear will retweet all the Renew/Cancel Index post titles and links as well as engage in a little more back and forth banter than we do on our standard @TVbytheNumbers Twitter feed.
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*shows no longer on the air have their Renew/Cancel Index "frozen" at the point they left the schedule.

From now through the end of the broadcast season in May, the Renew/Cancel Index values will only be calculated using new episodes airing during 2013. However, until new episodes of a show air in 2013, I will keep the "old"  Fall predictions in the table.

Want to know what the NBC Renew/Cancel Index table looked like at the end of the Fall season? Click here.

Notes:

  • :oops: - certain to be cancelled by May, 2013
  • :cry: :cry:- more likely to be cancelled than renewed by May, 2013
  • :| :| :| - toss up between renewal or cancellation by May, 2013
  • :) :) :) :) - more likely to be renewed than cancelled by May, 2013
  • :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: - certain to be renewed by May, 2013

The Renew/Cancel Index is the ratio of a scripted show's new episode adults 18-49 ratings relative to the new episode ratings of the other scripted shows on its own network. It's calculated by dividing a show's new episode Live+Same Day adults 18-49 average rating by the Live+Same Day new episode average of all the new scripted show episodes on the show's own network. The network's average ratings in the calculation are not time weighted (ie. hour long shows are not weighted twice what 30 minute shows are).

(F) -Fridays: Shows airing on Fridays were renewed with significantly lower than average Indexes.

How would the Renew / Cancel Index Have Done Predicting Last Season's Scripted Show Fates? Check out how the Renew / Cancel Index predicted renewals and cancellations from past television seasons.

 
  • Marc

    Whitney – stay the course and you will be renewed!

  • Observer

    I like Grimm on Fridays, I don’t think it will do well anywhere else.

  • David Howell

    I imagine the show is seen to have growth potential, or else is high enough on the NBC totem pole in a bad slot to make people think it’d do better in a different slot.

    But the competition from the other networks is so much stronger Mon-Thu that Friday 9 might even be the best slot without a Voice leadin on the entire NBC schedule. I mean, the only competition reliably getting mid-1s is Shark Tank! User levels can’t be *that* far down in comparison, even in young demos!

  • Dan

    Fans want Grimm moved from Fridays because they want to see the shows potential on another night. My guess is next season the show will still air Fridays. It just needs a better lead in at 8:00.

    Whitney & Go On will probably both return as well as Community.

    Parks, SVU, Parenthood, Grimm, Chicago Fire, and Revolution will all certainly be back

  • jamandas

    Hope they leave it on Fri. not much competition from other networks. I love Grimm I would hate to have it moved up against another show I watch.

  • http://tvbythenumbers.com Bill Gorman

    “Fans want Grimm moved from Fridays because they want to see the shows potential on another night.”

    For what rational reason?

  • Rebecca

    I’m a Grimm fan and I want it to stay on Fridays. Good, spooky, popcorn fun night. One of the few shows my hubby and I watch live (or delayed by a few minutes with the DVR on chase play mode).

  • Shepherd

    @Bill

    If a show is certain to be renewed, why should fans care when it airs? (other than personal scheduling like “I party on Fridays”).

    For me, the reason behind wanting a show moved are simple. Assuming it could get better ratings in a new time slot; better ratings = increased profitability, which can = a bigger budget, which means better actors, better guest stars, better writers, better production values, and better FX or CGI which all = more enjoyment for the fans/ audience.

    However, I think most people want a show moved because either A, it fits into their schedule better (like you said), or more likely B, they find it less cool/ embarrassing to watch a less popular show and would feel better telling people they were a fan of the show if it was more popular and got better ratings. Being trendy is trendy; ya know. ;-)

  • Neil

    I party every day of the week.

  • dottydorothy

    Oh Lord I hope not! Extremely silly to want your show to face unnecessary competition! Its perfect on the night that it is on! It’ll keep getting renewed if it stays there! If NBC’s current track record is something to go by, I dont ever want it moved!

  • JMM

    I feel bad for 1600 Penn. :( One of me new favorites. Freaking funny.

  • Jay

    Grimm is thriving on Friday because there aren’t many good shows on Friday. If they get moved to another night, they’ll be right up against at least three established series at the same time. Grimm stays on Friday, it stays of the schedule a lot longer, period.

  • Michael Rae

    I think NBC will keep Grimm on Friday because it is a huge hit.

  • cimmer

    This fan doesn’t want it moved. Besides NBC started the second season out on Mondays this Fall (I think) for a bit and it didn’t make a bit of difference in the ratings. I think some folk might believe that because Grimm is doing so ‘well’ for NBC it can be used to help other NBC shows or NBC on another night, but 1.4 even 1.7 is only ‘well’ on NBC, any other network and we’d be waving good bye to our show. There also seems to be this belief that if only a show were moved to another night that there would be legions of folk who would suddenly discover the show and it’s ratings would rise dramatically. Of course, that then leads to the alternate argument that the show lost viewers because the network kept moving it around and people couldn’t figure out when the show was on to watch it. You can’t win. So I say, leave it where it is and maybe NBC could get lucky and find another decent show to pair it with but right now we should all (NBC included) just be happy the show is creating some positive buzz and doing relatively well on Friday.

  • cadburyeasteregg

    I seriously wonder about Deception concerning the whole John Larroquette thing, especially if it becomes The Dwight Haverstock Show over the summer. They tried this before with him 20 years ago and it didn’t turn out too well. This is bumming me out as a fan. I’ll shut up now.

  • Tom

    “Grimm Is Certain To Be Renewed; Why Do Fans Want It Moved From Friday?”

    The reasoning is something along the lines of “Because our show, which is awesome, is a real show and deserves a real timeslot!”

    (That it is awesome is a matter of opinion. That it previously fizzled in a real timeslot is inarguable.)

  • Solelle

    My husband watches very little tv but grimm and game of thrones and walking dead are his go tos for tv. It occurrs to me that these shows grab that ever hard to catch adult male demo. I like those shows to but a lot of men who don’t seem to watch scripted tv seem to be watching these shows. So I don’t think it is going anywhere anytime soon.

  • Shepherd

    I’d add, that the reality is that the opposite is only true. Shows rarely see a boost in production values with higher ratings, rather they only see a decrease in values as ratings fall. Consequently, I usually only hope that a shows ratings can hold steady, and that they don’t cut too many characters/ too much budget to the point where the show starts to become unwatchable.

  • Renee

    I think Grimm should remain on Friday. It’s doing good there don’t rock the boat.

  • Shepherd

    @cimmer

    This fan doesn’t want it moved. Besides NBC started the second season out on Mondays this Fall (I think) for a bit and it didn’t make a bit of difference in the ratings. I think some folk might believe that because Grimm is doing so ‘well’ for NBC it can be used to help other NBC shows or NBC on another night, but 1.4 even 1.7 is only ‘well’ on NBC, any other network and we’d be waving good bye to our show. There also seems to be this belief that if only a show were moved to another night that there would be legions of folk who would suddenly discover the show and it’s ratings would rise dramatically. Of course, that then leads to the alternate argument that the show lost viewers because the network kept moving it around and people couldn’t figure out when the show was on to watch it. You can’t win. So I say, leave it where it is and maybe NBC could get lucky and find another decent show to pair it with but right now we should all (NBC included) just be happy the show is creating some positive buzz and doing relatively well on Friday.

    Ditto.

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