NBC: 'Grimm' Is Certain To Be Renewed; Why Do Fans Want It Moved From Friday?

Categories: Cancel/Renew Index,Cancel/Renew NBC Shows

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March 19th, 2013

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Our Renew / Cancel Index predicts the network's decision on renewal or cancellation for scripted broadcast primetime shows by the end of the 2012-13 season in May, 2013.  (includes results from December 31, 2012- March 10, 2013):

Program Status Renew/ Cancel Index
Do No Harm* canceled 0.50
Smash canceled 0.65
Animal Practice* canceled 0.66
The New Normal :oops: 0.77
1600 Penn :oops: 0.78
Guys With Kids* :oops: 0.81
Whitney :| :| :| 0.90
Deception :oops: 0.90
Go On :| :| :| 0.90
Community :| :| :| 0.92
30 Rock* final season complete 0.93
Grimm (F) :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: 1.01
Parenthood* :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: 1.08
Parks & Recreation :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: 1.14
Law & Order: SVU :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: 1.21
Chicago Fire :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: 1.43
The Office final season 1.43
Up All Night :oops: pending
Revolution :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: pending

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The Cancellation Bear has been predicting that Grimm was certain to be renewed all season, why put it in the headline now? First, it hadn't been in the headline all season. Second, the headline question is one that often comes up in our comments. Third, the bear's still treading water on making any more definitive predictions on the three "toss up" sitcoms. (Community's dive back to a 1.1 rating last week got the bear to tread water even longer).

Back to the headline question. If a show is certain to be renewed, why should fans care when it airs? (other than personal scheduling like "I party on Fridays").

Typical responses to that question are along the lines of "It deserves better". What does that even mean? The best a TV show can hope for (from a fan's perspective) is renewal.

To pre-emptively answer those who'll howl that Smash has not been canceled, shows that are moved to Saturday in the middle of their run are canceled. To argue otherwise makes you look silly. Or worse.

Better to Follow The Bear, Than Be Chased By Him. This season you can follow the Cancellation Bear on Twitter via @TheCancelBear. The Cancellation Bear will retweet all the Renew/Cancel Index post titles and links as well as engage in a little more back and forth banter than we do on our standard @TVbytheNumbers Twitter feed.
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*shows no longer on the air have their Renew/Cancel Index "frozen" at the point they left the schedule.

From now through the end of the broadcast season in May, the Renew/Cancel Index values will only be calculated using new episodes airing during 2013. However, until new episodes of a show air in 2013, I will keep the "old"  Fall predictions in the table.

Want to know what the NBC Renew/Cancel Index table looked like at the end of the Fall season? Click here.

Notes:

  • :oops: - certain to be cancelled by May, 2013
  • :cry: :cry:- more likely to be cancelled than renewed by May, 2013
  • :| :| :| - toss up between renewal or cancellation by May, 2013
  • :) :) :) :) - more likely to be renewed than cancelled by May, 2013
  • :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: - certain to be renewed by May, 2013

The Renew/Cancel Index is the ratio of a scripted show's new episode adults 18-49 ratings relative to the new episode ratings of the other scripted shows on its own network. It's calculated by dividing a show's new episode Live+Same Day adults 18-49 average rating by the Live+Same Day new episode average of all the new scripted show episodes on the show's own network. The network's average ratings in the calculation are not time weighted (ie. hour long shows are not weighted twice what 30 minute shows are).

(F) -Fridays: Shows airing on Fridays were renewed with significantly lower than average Indexes.

How would the Renew / Cancel Index Have Done Predicting Last Season's Scripted Show Fates? Check out how the Renew / Cancel Index predicted renewals and cancellations from past television seasons.

 
  • Fake Me Out

    As the unofficial leader of the anal ‘Wait! it’s not officially announced yet’ [WINOAY] brigade I do hereby declare UAN canceled. Put a fork in that turkey, it’s done … no new episodes of UAN will ever see the light of day.

    Even assuming (a HUGE assumption) most of the cast returns in a revamped show next year, it’s almost certainly not going to be called UAN and it won’t be the same or even similar premise … I therefore give Bill the WINOAY approval to move it to canceled … because Bill never makes a move we don’t approve of first! ;-)

    ymmv

  • Fred

    @Brian J,

    Thank you for taking the time to analyze my schedule.
    I guess NBC can delete 2 sitcoms on Thursday 9-10 and replace with GRIMM at 9 and a new similar genre show like DRACULA at 10:00. But that only leaves 1 new sitcom at 8:30. I don’t think NBC would move P&R from Thursday. P&R is there only remaining sitcom that has some sort of pulse.

    Just received the new TV GUIDE in the mail. Massive article about new pilots. Looks like the networks are concentrating on sitcoms. So I think NBC will most likely keep the 2 hour comedy block on Thursday. And a 1 hour block on Tuesday. Although I have a feeling NBC might get greedy and lock up a 2 hour Voice on Tuesday. Short term gain but not a good move if they want promote new shows after the VOICE. Which I believe they should do ASAP. While VOICE is still strong. I should say IF. The new cycle begins next week.

  • Brian J

    @Bill Gorman:

    1. Again, were a network to do this, it wouldn’t do it with all shows, only a few. The risk to wasting some prime time slots is therefore considerably less.

    2. Why would it be known by a few if it was stated before the show? The point about the network chairman announcing it was, I guess, to put a human face to the announcement, and it could just as easily be done by a screen shot before the show played. It could be reinforced over Twitter or something.

    3. It’s not that it’s a big problem or something new, as it’s just TV and has happened plenty of times before, but there’s reason (for me, at least) to think people are reluctant to get invested in serialized shows if they know they will be yanked without ever finding out what happens. Thus, by making sure that one or two shows stays on the air to complete their runs might help build viewership. The key word here is, of course, “might.”

    To elaborate, take a very unique show that was essentially DOA, like Wonderfalls or Dollhouse or Awake. (Didn’t watch all of them, for the record.) If it’s clear that critics like the shows, the network could make a decision to try it out on a less high profile night, like Friday, and make sure it had a good number of episodes. Ideally, quality shows would premiere high, but of course, they don’t. But perhaps, after developing a devoted following and maintaining quality, a show could be moved to a stronger night, where it could grow. The key to getting that devoted following in this example is to give it a chance and not yank it so quickly.

    I understand why networks do what they do in most cases, but sometimes, used appropriately, this seems like it could help the networks. Again, “might” and “could,” not “absolutely will.”

  • saffron

    Keep Grimm safe on Fridays! Who cares if other people don’t know it exists. Their loss.

  • Anthony

    @Brian J

    1. The point is that networks don’t want to waste ANY timeslots. They don’t want to keep shows on the air that lose money, especially when they could pull them and replace it with cheaper and more profitable filler such as Dateline, or any reality show.
    2/3. It wouldn’t be known by many because MOST people do not follow TV ratings or press releases. You obviously do (based on the fact that you visit this site) but the majority of Americans do not and therefore would never see the press release. The “fear of a show being cancelled” only affects people who follow ratings. I know plenty of people who watch the Walking Dead but don’t follow the ratings, they have no clue that it is the most popular show on television (for all they know, it is incredibly unpopular) and they continue to watch despite not knowing whether the series will have a satisfying ending or not.
    4. You may have a point that Wonderfalls wasn’t given a fair shot but the other two shows are terrible examples to try and prove your point. Awake aired all 13 of it’s episodes in the same timeslot and it’s ratings did nothing but drop over the course of it’s run. Dollhouse aired 27(!) episodes over two seasons and was terribly rated throughout it’s run. How exactly did those two shows not get a chance? Shows don’t just magically double their audience just because a network keeps showing new episodes. Look at Community and Parks and Recreation. Very devoted fan bases, critics love them, NBC continues to air new episodes, yet ratings have declined virtually every season (Parks increased a bit the season that it followed the Office but other than that it has steadily dropped). There is at the very least an equally good (or better) chance that if a network debuts a new show it will be a hit, than a terribly rated show will suddenly grow into one.

  • The End

    @saffron

    I agree, Grimm should stay on Friday. The show is doing well enough to get renewed, and you don’t need huge ratings anyway, so why risk moving something that works on that timeslot for bragging rights? It doesn’t work.

  • Yoyo

    My NBC Schedule:

    MONDAY
    8:00 – The Voice
    10:00 – NEW DRAMA

    TUESDAY
    8:00 – The Voice
    9:00 – Parenthood
    10:00 – Revolution

    WEDNESDAY
    8:00 – Whitney
    8:30 – NEW COMEDY
    9:00 – Chicago Fire
    10:00 – NEW DRAMA

    THURSDAY
    8:00 – Community
    8:30 – Go On
    9:00 – Parks & Recreation
    9:30 – NEW COMEDY
    10:00 – Law & Order: SVU

    FRIDAY
    8:00 – Dateline
    9:00 – Grimm
    10:00 – Dracula / Hannibal

  • Stephanie H

    I’m very embarrassed to admit but I love Whitney and I hope they renew it.

  • Rick

    Keep Grimm where it is, knowing NBC they would likely do something stupid like they do with Community and put it up against Big Bang Theory and American Idol.

  • Gene

    @Stephanie H

    That’s okay, I actually like watching Rock Center with Brian Williams, which obviously puts me in a small minority.

  • steve

    @ Bill Gorman:

    HUGE Grimm fan and it will be renewed!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I don’t care what night it’s on as long as it stays on.

    Just put Community, Parks & Rec on certain renewal already.

    I’d rather see Whitney canceled and Go On/TNN renewed but I fear cancellation for The New Normal which was my pick as the best new sitcom of 2012/2013 season. So much for the brilliance of this show not getting to the masses.

    SMASH: TRASH. I hope the Cancellation Bear enjoys eating Katharine McPhee. It should have been canceled after the first season and last years’ Harry’s Law actually had 3 times as many viewers as Smash did all this season!

    NBC is in big trouble.

  • Joseph

    haven’t we known since last summer that this is Community’s final season? Why are fans pretending it may get another season, the way Chuck fans were during its final season? Community has already filmed its *last* episode. It’s over.

  • Jon

    I really could care less what day a show airs live. If I can’t watch it live, I dvr it anyway, It’s not 1980 anymore.

  • Harry

    Only 2 shows I watch on NBC are Grimm & Chicago Fire. NBC has really slipped!

  • Billiam

    My wife and I agree that Grimm might do better on Sundays at 9. It might get the ABC Once Upon A Time viewers. Think about it. Wouldn’t ABC be pissed if their viewers switched to NBC right after Once Upon A Time??

  • Ultima

    @Joseph
    haven’t we known since last summer that this is Community’s final season?

    No. Unlike Chuck et al, neither the network nor the studio have ever said that this was its final season.

  • Ultima

    @Billiam
    My wife and I agree that Grimm might do better on Sundays at 9. It might get the ABC Once Upon A Time viewers. Think about it. Wouldn’t ABC be pissed if their viewers switched to NBC right after Once Upon A Time?

    Wouldn’t Grimm fans be pissed if viewers decided to watch The Walking Dead instead?

  • Fred

    @Jon,

    In 1981 I bought my first VCR for $600. I was a just a little kid, but a I watched lots of TV back then. Much more than today. I recorded almost everything and watched little live. I had too much homework. Some of the shows I recorded: DALLAS, DYNASTY, KNOTS LANDING,CHIPS and DIFFERENT STROKES.

  • Matt

    I don’t agree with putting smash as cancelled… I know it’s obvious it’s going to be cancelled but its not official yet… So I think it should have certain cancellation sad face

  • Fred

    @Matt

    My mom is a fan of SMASH. She can’t let go either.

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