Bubble Watch: 'The Neighbors' Hangs On + 'Last Man Standing' & 'Malibu Country' Upgraded; What About 'The Good Wife?'

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March 24th, 2013

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When it comes to bubble status, like the Renew/Cancel Index we're focusing on the likelihood that a show will be renewed **for next season** (2013-14).  Certain shows are toss-ups where based on the ratings, the renewal decisions could go either way and not be surprising.

Here, “canceled” is used interchangeably with “won’t be renewed for next season” and is not meant to imply a show will be yanked off the schedule in the current season though obviously the two outcomes are not mutually exclusive. The semantics police and lawyers should feel free to break out the handcuffs and plead their cases in the comments. 

This Isn't The Renew/Cancel Index

Though the basic methodology is the same (intra-network relative ranking of shows by adults 18-49 ),unlike the Renew/Cancel Index which predicts what would happen if the season ended now, Bubble Watch prognosticates about what will happen by May. The two are still usually closely aligned, and almost certainly very closely aligned towards the end of the season.

Last Man Standing & Malibu Country

I’ve upgraded Last Man Standing to likely renewal, and Malibu Country to the bubble. Last Man Standing has done well enough that it’s more likely to be renewed than canceled.  The unknown is whether keeps the Friday comedy block around anchored by Last Man Standing, or uses it as schedule spackle for other nights. If ABC keeps the Friday block, Malibu Country is a tossup for renewal, if it doesn’t keep it, it’s likely to be canceled.

Beauty And The Beast & The Carrie Diaries

Bill and I remain in disagreement about which is on the bubble and which is likely to be canceled. A small uptick for Beauty And The Beast on Thursday didn’t sway me. With the women 18-34 that both shows presumably target, The Carrie Diaries still had the edge last week despite Beauty And The Beast having the fairly wide percentage lead with adults 18-49.  Beauty And The Beast still has the much more favorable adults 18-49 lead in (last week a 1.3 vs. a 0.7 for The Carrie Diaries).

I don’t love the ratings for either show and if I wasn’t at least a little uncertain about how many shows CW can afford to cancel, I would probably have them both as likely cancellations. I may still by the end of the season.

How Could You Not Upgrade ‘The Good Wife’ to Likely Renewal After the Syndication Deal!?

Often shows are sold into syndication before they have enough episodes for stripped Monday-Friday syndication (as with Hawaii Five-0, NCIS: LA and Castle) with the buyers being on the hook for future seasons. Because it took The Good Wife so long to come up with a syndication deal, they already had four seasons (including the current season). In the case of The Good Wife Amazon and Hallmark are already on the hook for the current season, but it doesn't appear they're locked into any future seasons. Still, I can't see not upgrading the prediction to renewal by the end of the season.

CBS won’t have much time if it really wants to figure out if the streaming effect that seems to have benefit other serialized shows will help shows like The Good Wife. However, while I’m sure CBS would love some data about that, I’m not sure how much they’ll find out.

While much is made of the streaming effect for serialized shows, so far “streaming effect” is mostly synonymous with “Netflix Streaming Effect” (Sons Of Anarchy, Breaking Bad, Mad Men, etc) , much is not made about the fact that we don’t really know much about Amazon Prime subscribers because Amazon doesn’t disclose that information. We don’t know how many there are. Estimates range from 5 million to 10 million subscribers to the $79/yr. service primarily known for its two-day shipping. How many of them besides me ever stream any of the “included in Prime” programming. Whatever the math, it works out to a number much smaller than Netflix which reported 27M streaming customers in the U.S. at the end of 2012.

How Could You Not Downgrade ‘The Neighbors’?!

To answer the question above: simple, I ignore the ratings for episodes that are sandwiched into otherwise all-repeat lineups.

To answer the follow-up question of “doesn’t it tell you something that ABC has sandwiched it into an lineups that are otherwise all repeats?” Nope, it doesn’t tell me that.  Maybe ABC just wanted to protect it from the more daylight-y version of Daylight Saving Time. Or maybe they just wanted to shelter it from the inevitable “disappearing ratings” stories in late April.  Mostly It tells me ABC has still more stuff it needed to sandwich in.

I’m not saying there aren’t reasonable cases to be made that it should be downgraded to the bubble, only that so far I am not swayed by those cases.

Note: only scripted shows that have aired at least one episode this season are in the table below.

Show Network Status
666 Park Avenue ABC Canceled
Don't Trust The B---- in Apartment 23 ABC Canceled
Last Resort ABC Canceled
Private Practice ABC Final Season Finished
Zero Hour ABC Canceled
Made In Jersey CBS Canceled
Partners CBS Canceled
90210 CW Canceled/Final Season
Emily Owens, M.D. CW Canceled
Gossip Girl CW Final Season Finished
Ben And Kate Fox Canceled
Fringe Fox Final Season Finished
The Mob Doctor Fox Canceled
30 Rock NBC Final Season Finished
Animal Practice NBC Canceled
Do No Harm NBC Canceled
Office, The NBC Final Season
Smash NBC Canceled
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Red Widow ABC Cancellation Predicted
Body Of Proof ABC Cancellation Predicted
Happy Endings ABC Cancellation Predicted
CSI: NY CBS Cancellation Predicted
Golden Boy CBS Cancellation Predicted
Vegas CBS Cancellation Predicted
Beauty And The Beast CW Cancellation Predicted
Cult CW Cancellation Predicted
Cleveland Show, The Fox Cancellation Predicted
Touch Fox Cancellation Predicted
1600 Penn NBC Cancellation Predicted
Guys With Kids NBC Cancellation Predicted
Up All Night NBC Cancellation Predicted
Deception NBC Cancellation Predicted
The New Normal NBC Cancellation Predicted
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Malibu Country ABC On The Bubble
Good Wife, The CBS On The Bubble
Mentalist, The CBS On The Bubble
Rules of Engagement CBS On The Bubble
Carrie Diaries, The CW On The Bubble
Community NBC On The Bubble
Go On NBC On The Bubble
Whitney NBC On The Bubble
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Castle ABC Renewal Predicted
Neighbors, The ABC Renewal Predicted
Revenge ABC Renewal Predicted
Suburgatory ABC Renewal Predicted
Grey's Anatomy ABC Renewal Predicted
Last Man Standing ABC Renewal Predicted
Middle, The ABC Renewal Predicted
Modern Family ABC Renewal Predicted
Nashville ABC Renewal Predicted
Once Upon A Time ABC Renewal Predicted
Scandal ABC Renewal Predicted
Elementary CBS Renewal Predicted
Hawaii Five-0 CBS Renewal Predicted
2 Broke Girls CBS Renewal Predicted
Blue Bloods CBS Renewal Predicted
Criminal Minds CBS Renewal Predicted
Mike & Molly CBS Renewal Predicted
NCIS: Los Angeles CBS Renewal Predicted
Person Of Interest CBS Renewal Predicted
Two and a Half Men CBS Renewal Predicted
Hart Of Dixie CW Renewal Predicted
Nikita CW Renewal Predicted
Glee Fox Renewal Predicted
Law & Order: SVU NBC Renewal Predicted
Parks & Recreation NBC Renewal Predicted
Chicago Fire NBC Renewal Predicted
Grimm NBC Renewal Predicted
Parenthood NBC Renewal Predicted
Revolution NBC Renewal Predicted
Big Bang Theory, The CBS Renewed
CSI CBS Renewed
How I Met Your Mother CBS Renewed
NCIS CBS Renewed
Arrow CW Renewed
Supernatural CW Renewed
Vampire Diaries, The CW Renewed
American Dad Fox Renewed
Bob's Burgers Fox Renewed
Bones Fox Renewed
Family Guy Fox Renewed
Following, The Fox Renewed
Mindy Project, The Fox Renewed
New Girl Fox Renewed
Raising Hope Fox Renewed
The Simpsons Fox Renewed

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  • tscchope

    CWs problem is that all your shows suck when your top rated one is a 1.3.

    “if only my show had a better lead in” is a well known fan Excuse Bingo and seems perverse to use it to decide which show of two is ahead .
    The Carrie Diaries represents old school CW build ratings around women aged 18-34. That’s history. So’s the Carrie Diaries. It’s season average is likely to be 0.4 and that is cancellation.

    The Beauty and the Beast is a show Pedowitz is commissioned and seemsto be invested in. It’s shot in Canada where production is cheaper. Ratings aren’t a factor when most ofthe production cost is paid for from international sales. Putting it on Fridays at 9PM without havig to care too much whatthe ratings are is a boon for a struggling network. Let’s face it, there’s no way a new show would survive at 9PM on Fridays. Hitting a 0.5 in that timeslot could be regarded as a success.

    I am not convinved Hart of Dixie should be going for syndication, but the place to be ruthless is with the pilots. If you wait til the shows flop on air, it’s already far too late.

  • Hi

    looking for the ratings, why the hell TCD is on the bubble, and BatB is like canceled, when BatB has .1~.2 more than TCD?

  • Richard Steven Hack

    tscchope: “Ratings aren’t a factor when most ofthe production cost is paid for from international sales.”

    Only if international ratings are good – which we don’t know – because if the ratings are bad overseas, the buyers won’t offer the same money for a season two.

    We also don’t that the $1.5 million per episode international sales IS covering enough of BATB’s production costs that WB can – or will want to – offer it to the CW for a low enough license fee that the CW will ignore the loss of ad revenue in a season one show.

    The entire question about BATB is not its current ratings, but what it will do in season two. It’s almost certain that its season average will START at .5 in a season two. It’s currently .63, but trends in the spring hold more weight, and we can expect a season to season drop of perhaps 20%.

    Unless BATB’s production costs are covered by license fees and international sales in season two, neither the CW nor WB is going to be motivated to renew it with the kind of ratings it will get in season two. Because a show has to pay its way in seasons one and two to get a shot at being subsidized for seasons three and four.

    “I am not convinved Hart of Dixie should be going for syndication”

    The difference between HoD and BATB is not wide. HoD’s season average is .56 and has been getting .6 in the demo week to week recently. BATB’s season average is .63 and has been getting .5’s recently. The main point is HoD is in season TWO, not season ONE as BATB is, so its ratings are consistent with that status. So HoD is closer to syndication. HoD’s ratings in season two are better than Nikita’s in its season two and Nikita was renewed for syndication.

    As I’ve said, I personally would cancel HoD, too, but IF it’s true that the CW can’t cancel that many shows, HoD is MUCH better positioned to survive than BATB is.

    In fact, my guess is that HoD will be renewed and moved to Friday rather than BATB. OTOH, the CW could keep HoD in its current time slot and move BATB to Friday if renewed. But the problem with THAT is that in ADDITION to the usual season to season drop, BATB will then get FRIDAY ratings, which might the same as Nikita did in its season two or even lower – Nikita started its season two with .6 ratings and then dropped to .5 and then .4. BATB will drop MUCH faster to .4 and end up with a season average of LESS than .4..

    If BATB is renewed and HoD is moved to Friday, HoD will do about what Nikita did in its season two. But that will leave BATB on another week night, probably Monday or Tuesday – and there is no guarantee its ratings won’t drop yet again as a result of losing what little it currently gains from the TVD lead-in as well as the season to season drop.

    I just don’t see either the studio or the CW renewing BATB UNLESS it IS true that they can’t afford to cancel it because they don’t have enough pilots. But they seem to have plenty of pilots and they’ve canceled 85% of their new shows before. So there’s nothing stopping them from canceling Eo, Cult, TCD AND BATB.

  • Jared

    I think the CW will renew more than just one of there new series..Arrow and that show most likely will be BatB. Sure BatB isn’t a huge show,but it’s remained steady and I believe will grow slightly until the finale if the current storyline is anything to go by. BatB reminds me of the first season of HoD. Loyal audience,great online buzz and could be easily paired up with another pilot next season and that has the potential to grow. The CW shouldnt be so quick to cancel this show. If this season was anything to go by the network should keep a steady series just in case pilots they ordered fail.

  • Richard Steven Hack

    Renewing a low-rated show just because your pilots might fail is bad business. The pilots can’t do much worse than the current low-rated shows – with the obvious exception of Cult, of course, which was an utter disaster. At least you can charge a reasonable ad rate for new shows before the advertisers see which ones fail.

    You also get probably decent ratings performance for the first few episodes before the pilots sink to the CW average (again, with the exception of Cult which failed almost instantly.) Whereas if either TCD or BATB are renewed, you’re just about guaranteed their second seasons will start at .3-.4 (in the case of TCD) and .4-.5 in the case of BATB.

    Again, why would the CW bother? There’s only one reason – inability to replace them – and that’s TOTALLY speculative because the CW has done it before.

  • Andrew

    CBS Fall 2013 Projected Lineup:

    Sun:
    8:00- Amazing Race
    9:00-New Drama (Female Friendly)
    10:00- The Good Wife

    Monday
    8:00- HIMYM
    8:30- MIke & Molly
    9:00- 2 Broke Girls
    9:30-The Crazy Ones (New Robin Williams Comedy)
    10:00- Hawaii 5-0

    Tuesday:
    8:00-NCIS
    9:00-NCIS LA/ NCIS LA Spin off (Late mid season)
    10:00- Beverly Hills Cop (New Drama)

    Weds:
    8:00-Survior
    9:00- Criminal Minds
    10:00-CSI

    Thurs:
    8:00- BIg Bang
    8:30-2 1/2 Men
    9:00-Person of Interest
    10:00-The Mentalist

    Friday:
    8:00-New Drama
    9:00-Blue Bloods
    10:00- Elementary

    CBS had the rare chance to put established programing on the air against other other networks who are trying to get audiences for their pilots. Granted they need to air some new shows, however, they still have Undercover Boss as a mid season filler, and can move new pilots in as needed. CBS is the number one network so keeping things mostly in place make sense. A few tweaks: Moving Blue Bloods up an hour on Friday fits the shows format, and it would be a good lead in for Elementary. Moving the Mentalist back to Thursday nights makes sense as the number of viewers is still high, even though the Demo is is lower. Also, Bruno Heller has a new Drama pilot would could be used to if the Mentalist gets a 13 episode pick up. Also, getting a more “soap like” drama on Sunday’s at 9pm to go with the Good Wife makes sense against NBC”s football in that slot.

  • Jake

    I predict
    ABC will cancel: Happy Endings, Malibu Country & Red Widow. Anything they show @ 10pm on Sundays gets lousy ratings. And Happy Endings looks like they are gonna start airing on Fridays to burn off the left over episodes.

    CBS will cancel: CSI:NY, Mentalist, Vegas & Golden Boy. CSI:NY been on the air for 9 years, ratings have been steadily going down. The Mentalist being moved to Sunday @ 10pm lost this show well over half its viewers. Same reason here as on ABC, anything airing on Sundays @ that time does not do any good. I don’t know why they seem to want to cancel Vegas, it gets better ratings than the Good Wife or Hawaii 5-0 but I bet they do cancel it. And if history repeats itself Golden Boy does not have a chance because it’s a midseason show.
    FOX will cancel: Cleveland Show & Touch. These two shows deserve to get cancelled.
    NBC will cancel: 1600 Penn, Guys w/ kids, New Normal, Up All Night, Deception & Whitney. Comedies just don’t do well on this network anymore. I think NBC should cancel these as well as Community & Go On. And that new show Hannibal won’t do any good either. They should not even air it. I think NBC should start over from scratch with their shows that gets half way decent ratings ie: The Voice, Revolution & Sunday Night NFL and go from there.

  • Jake

    NBC FALL LINEUP SHOULD BE:
    monday
    8p the voice
    10p NEW DRAMA

    tuesday
    8p the voice results show
    9p NEW REALITY SHOW
    10p L&O: SVU

    wednesday
    8p the voice results show
    9p NEW DRAMA
    10p revolution

    thursday
    8p parks & recreation
    8:30 NEW COMEDY
    9p chicago fire
    10p NEW DRAMA

    fridays
    8p grimm
    9p dateline

    sundays
    6p football

  • Andrew

    I agree about NBC canceling almost everything and using The Voice, REvolution, and the NFL, however, I would also put Parks and Recreation in there. However, none of the shows except NFL Sunday NIght Football is rock solid. The Voice like all singing shows will fade, and its format is much better for the first half of the show. Revolution is solid however, but it has aired for less then a season, they have had a huge break and could be a couple of bad scripts away from fading quick.

    NBC needs to counter program to have a chance! For example lose the idea that Thursday is NBC comedy night. Big Bang and any number of CBS Comedies kill NBC on that night. The Office is gone, and they have one comedy in Parks and Recreation that can draw for sure. Or use Revolution if it still has great ratings on a night the other networks are weak. NBC has been killed going head to head with other networks. They need to strike the schedule where it has holes. Also, they need to test everything before they air more then anyone else, they do not have the liberty of missing like CBS and ABC and FOX.

  • Anthony

    @Richard Steven Hack

    With BATB (or Carrie Diaries) I don’t think it is necessarily about getting the show to syndication or about avoiding pilots because they might do worse than those shows. It is more about how many new shows the CW can effectively promote next season. The problem is that if the CW cancels both the shows, they are left in the position of needing to promote 5 new shows next fall (literally half of their schedule) in addition to promoting the returning shows. That’s just not realistic, without having most of them bomb right out of the gate. Returning shows do not need as much promotion to garner ratings (it would take less promotion for BATB to return next season with a .5 than it would be for a new show to premiere with it). Make no mistake about it, if either CD or BATB get renewed, it is just for schedule spackle purposes, not with the intent of getting the show to syndication or anything like that, but one of them will be renewed.

  • Kavyn

    @RSH Why in the world would the CW keep HOD on Tuesdays at 8pm?

  • Kavyn

    If a show is getting abysmal ratings they won’t renew it. There is no reason in renewing a show they expect to completely bomb anyways, they’re better off just putting re-runs like they’re currently doing with Friday… or Tuesday… I forgot what they changed but they have an hour dedicated to re-runs since they cancelled EO.

    If BATB or TCD get renewed you can expect it to get advertised just like every other show. Obviously most of the funds will go to whichever show they expect to be a hit (I’m guessing their money is on the Originals, The Selection and that pilot that’s similar to X-Men). But my point is, they won’t be renewed, not even to fill up a time slot. I fully expect the CW to pick up 5 pilots like last season, and then replace them with re-runs if any of them flop by mid-season (which is very likely).

  • Holly

    @Kavyn,

    You expect the CW to have no midseason shows? Have they ever done that?…Has any network done that?

  • Richard Steven Hack

    Anthony: “It is more about how many new shows the CW can effectively promote next season.”

    That’s a secondary budget matter. What matters is the MONEY coming IN, not the money going out for promo. If a show isn’t going to being MONEY IN, why renew it and then have to promote it even if it costs less to promote than a new show? Pilots have to be promoted ANYWAY. If you have to cut and paste to get money to promote five news shows, so be it.

    “That’s just not realistic, without having most of them bomb right out of the gate.”

    Look, no one here has a clue what the promotional budget is for the CW, or how the CW decides which shows to promote, how and for how much money. There is no concrete evidence that the degree of promotion the CW does necessarily means that any given new show will fail if promoted less than any other new show.

    The premise and the quality of the show probably mean as much as promotion for the success or failure of any show.

    So this stuff is utterly speculative and is not going to influence whether a low-rated show is renewed or not.

    It’s a Fan Bingo Card excuse, nothing else.

    “if either CD or BATB get renewed, it is just for schedule spackle purposes, not with the intent of getting the show to syndication or anything like that”

    That’s nonsense. Both shows will return to the fall schedule if they are renewed. “Spackle” refers to slotting them in when new shows fail. That is not what will happen with TCD or BATB if they are renewed. It’s much more likely that the CW will hold back one or two pilots for mid-season in case something fails as badly as The Cult did.

    “but one of them will be renewed.”

    The CW really can’t afford to do that given the bad shape they’re in. They need to cancel ALL the low-rated shows in season and start over. Keeping low-rated shows on merely enhances the perception that the network is a basket case and doesn’t permit them to maximize the possibility of improving that situation, plus and most importantly it costs them ad revenue that a new show is likely to do JUST AS WELL as a failed show.

    A NEW show starting out is almost certainly going to do better than a held-over low-rated show. The new show may fail slowly or quickly (like The Cult did) but INITIALY it’s almost certainly going to do better than the old show. It’s always better to dump a low-rated show and try again. The fact that most new shows end up getting canceled is no argument against that approach because that fact is true for ALL networks. But on the CW, it’s important to try harder with new shows because the overall network ratings are so bad.

    The CW’s problem is precisely the fact that its overall ratings are so low that no one wants to watch ANY of its shows and they’ve done badly in picking new pilots on top of that. The only way to fix their perception issue is to get some decent pilots in that will work, like Arrow did this season. Arrow proves they CAN do that if they try.

    Constantly canceling crap shows and trying new pilots is the only thing that can save them.

    Fridays is covered for them – that’s repeat and shows headed for syndication night.

    Thursday is covered by TVD and The Originals next season.

    Wednesday has Supernatural and Arrow covered.

    Monday and Tuesday are the only two nights they have to worry about. So they only need four pilots outside of The Originals. And if they leave HoD where it is, they only need three pilots besides The Originals.

    Not a problem. They’ve done it before.

    There just is no rational reason to renew either TCD or BATB.

  • starship

    @Kavyn
    They won’t. It’s already repeating back in its season 1 timeslot and I’m sure it will go back there next year, unless for some unknown reason the CW decide to cancel it. It’s a solid performer, but isn’t lead in material so needs to go back to 9pm ( not that I generally think lead-ins have much effect, but in some cases they do). Also it would be more sensible to move it back to 9pm on Monday where it started, since they’re already repeating it in that timeslot than moving it to yet another timeslot in the ‘flop hour’. The only smart choice for Tuesday at 9 will be Supernatural, otherwise they have to put BATB in that spot, since a new show is bound to fail there, based on their recent history. Tuesday at 8 will most likely be a new show next year.

  • Richard Steven Hack

    Kavyn: “@RSH Why in the world would the CW keep HOD on Tuesdays at 8pm?”

    I’m speaking in terms of if BATB is renewed. They have to move one or the other to Friday. It’s unlikely they’ll keep HoD on Tuesdays and BATB on either Monday or Tuesday. That would be two low-rated shows trying to anchor their worst nights of the week.

    One of those shows is likely to move to Friday. HoD can be moved there like Nikita was and that would make sense since if HoD is renewed for syndication purposes the ratings on Friday won’t matter.

    BATB could also be moved to Friday – BUT if they did move it there instead of HoD, it would do much worse than HoD would do, given that BATB would be in season two and HoD would be in season three. BATB probably wouldn’t do well enough to be considered for syndication if its season two average drops to .3-.4 which it likely would on Fridays.

    So botton line: There’s no reason to renew BATB and a syndication reason to renew HoD. But if BATB is not renewed and HoD is renewed they probably would move HoD to Friday after Nikita.

  • Richard Steven Hack

    I don’t think the CW’s history with shows on Monday or Tuesday is going to influence their decisions. The main problem they’ve had is developing shows out of TVD. I think the created The Originals to solve that problem. Even if The Originals doesn’t become a hit, it should do well enough to solve the Thursday problem.

    Monday and Tuesday are where the problems lie for the CW. They need to cancel low-rated shows on those nights and try new pilots there, almost exclusively. I could see them moving either Arrow or Supernatural to one of those nights to try to start off new shows while leaving the other of Arrow or Supernatural where it is to continue to anchor Wednesdays.

    But frankly I think they should leave well enough alone – meaning leave Wednesdays and Thursday alone. Those nights work. Why risk damaging those nights to try to improve the other two? Simply concentrate on using new pilots to try to fix Monday and Tuesday. They can’t do any worse on those two nights than they’ve done already.

    But renewing either of TCD or BATB and putting them on Monday or Tuesday will simply do nothing for them. New pilots are likely to do better than either of those shows, at least initially. Afterward it will depend on whether the new pilots fail or not.

    I haven’t research their new pilots so I have no idea whether any of those shows will fail and probably neither does the CW nor anyone else here. So all we have to go by is the fact that most of the CW new shows fail every season.

    That still doesn’t justify renewing ALREADY FAILED shows in order to avoid NEW failures. Just makes no sense.

  • Richard Steven Hack

    Look at it another way,

    HoD is a low-rated show. It’s steady and in season two, but it’s ratings are too low to enable it to benefit a new show. So why keep it on either Monday or Tuesday along with a new pilot? There’s no benefit to either it or the new show. Move it to Friday and forget about it.

    BATB is a low-rated show. Renewing it and moving it to Monday or Tuesday does nothing for a new show and probably won’t help BATB either. You can’t move it to Friday because it will do even worse there and isn’t close to syndication over HoD. So cancel it.

  • Brandy

    HoD will not move to fri and probably not back to Mon.Pedowitz said at TCAS in Jan that “HoD stands on its own on a tough night”.I doubt HoD or SPN could have a stable fanbase against The Voice,Dancing with Stars,NCIS ect.Now, it’s possible repeating on Mon. Means HoD might move back there.Also, they could pair HoD with Company Town or Blink or SPN if they break up Wed night,wich I think they will.Sure HoD is low rated,but it’s stable and even the highest rated show on cw can’t keep an audience after it.BaTB is more/most Likley to move to Fri if renewed, the way Nikita was after underperforming after VD.

  • Kavyn

    @Holly Well they have 5 time slots to fill up. I don’t know how many shows the CW can afford, but in the end how much are they really saving if they renew BATB/TCD in order to fill up a slot?

    Is it not better to pick up an extra pilot than it is to renew a show that’s currently failing and expected to fail even more if given a second season?

    The CW has no choice but to pick up at least 5 pilots, and those pilots need to fill up gaps in the schedule. If I were the CW, what I would do is pick up 6 pilots, air 5 of them in the Fall and use the last one to replace the lowest rated show. But in the end I don’t know if the CW has the budget to handle that many new shows.

    If one of TCD or BATB get renewed, it will 100% be BATB, and it will 100% be shoved with Nikita on Friday at 9pm. TCD has no chance of renewal, and I say this as someone who does not watch either show. The CW would almost be better off renewing ANTM for the fall/winter season to fill up that gap and pairing it with HOD.

    @starship if the CW doesn’t put HOD on Tuesdays at 9pm, then they clearly have not been paying attention to the ratings of their own shows. HOD cannot lead a show, but it has a stable audience that will stick with it. Tuesdays at 9pm is considered a death slot of the CW, but it wouldn’t matter for HOD fans since HOD will get its fourth season renewal just like Nikita.

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