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Thursday Final Ratings: 'Hannibal' & 'American Idol' Adjusted Up

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April 12th, 2013

American Idol April 11American Idol and Hannibal were each adjusted up one tenth among adults 18-49 versus the preliminary Thursday broadcast ratings.

Want to know why adjustments occur to the preliminary ratings? Read this.

Broadcast primetime final ratings for Thursday:

Time Net Show 18-49 Rating 18-49 Share Viewers Live+SD (million)
8:00PM FOX American Idol 3.2 10 13.19
CBS The Big Bang Theory -R 3.0 10 11.44
ABC Wife Swap 1.4 5 4.54
NBC Community 1.2 4 2.84
CW The Vampire Diaries -R 0.3 1 0.85
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8:30PM CBS Two and a Half Men -R 2.0 6 8.29
NBC Parks and Recreation 1.5 5 3.15
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9:00PM FOX Glee 2.4 6 6.67
NBC The Office 1.9 5 3.83
CBS Person Of Interest -R 1.8 5 10.11
ABC Grey's Anatomy -R 1.3 3 4.51
CW Beauty And The Beast -R 0.3 1 0.88
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9:30 PM NBC Go On 1.1 3 2.67
10:00 PM NBC Hannibal 1.7 5 4.38
CBS Elementary -R 1.4 4 7.32
ABC Scandal -R 0.9 3 3.530

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Nielsen TV Ratings: ©2013 The Nielsen Company. All Rights Reserved.

 
  • Alex

    Also can I just point out that depressing really isn’t a good descriptor for Hannibal. Dark I’ll give you, depressing I won’t.

  • tscchope

    First time for BATB beating TVD in viewers. Okay so it was just reruns. Again with new episodes and it might shut a few people up.

    BATB fans are smart enough to know it was a rerun, it’s the TVD fans actually staying with the channel and watching BATB.

  • ryan

    @ rob60990

    well played :)
    he just choose to ignore some facts
    and name the one’s he like.

  • The End

    @Alex
    @Yes because obviously nobody brought them in the US. Nor did they watch the films.

    Contrary to what you believe, the world includes the United States too.

    @Good job we don’t have any other ‘dark depressing’ shows on television to compare it to then. Its a genre that television never touches after all.

    We do, but we have shows that appeal to different audiences. We don’t typically expect shows of a different genre to perform the same because they have blood and gore in them at different levels.

    @That thankfully AMC had the sense to make The Walking Dead a bright happy go lucky series that shied away from anything dark, gory or depressing because God knows audiences hate that kind of thing.

    You really need to stop with the snark, it really does make you look stupid and doesn’t prove anything at all.

    The Walking Dead and Hannibal are two different genre shows, one is a drama horror show, the other is a thriller, a psycological thriller with horror elements.

    Why do you seriously not understand this? Do you not watch The Walking Dead? Or have you missed all the drama and talking that takes up the majority of any given episode.

    @Good job you didn’t suggest that Hannibal was a niche show because it was ‘dark and depressing’ and completely ignore aspects like the character relationships and interaction then. That would just have been insanity.

    Better job I didn’t compare Hannibal to The Walking Dead because they have ‘blood and gore’ I really would of embarrassed myself here.

    @As opposed to Hannibal Lecter a character people have never heard of? You’re right the independent comic book upon which The Walking Dead is based obviously amassed a much bigger audience than the books and films that feature Hannibal Lecter.

    Oh dear, we’re really going here? No we’re not.

    @That your entire point was nonsensical
    @the huge success of a dark, gory series about a zombie apocalypse

    First of all, your argument was nonsensical. The Walking Dead, the TV even is a Drama series at heart with zombies. The show is nothing like Hannibal, no kidding the show is dark, but nowhere near as dark as Hannibal is in general.

  • Hi

    @rob60990 @ryan

    0.3 with 1.23 milion, ok.
    I beleave that on 25-54 had a good rating.

  • Kyle

    The problem that Hannibal is going to have is when Scandal and Elementary come back. Scandal dominates the hour in the key demos and Elementary dominates in the total viewers.

    NBC should move it after The Voice. If it can pull 1.6-1.7 here it can pull 2+ behind The Voice.

  • Alex

    @The End
    Contrary to what you believe, the world includes the United States too.

    I’m perfectly aware of that. However, by suggesting that the Lecter characters success is global rather than local you were attempting to completely disregard the massive success both the books and films featuring the character have had in the US. The books and films sold millions of copies and grossed hundreds of millions of dollars within the US attempting to ignore that when discussing a television show about the Lecter character is ridiculous.

    We do, but we have shows that appeal to different audiences. We don’t typically expect shows of a different genre to perform the same because they have blood and gore in them at different levels.

    Wait there are other television series’ that have been ‘dark and depressing’? Are you sure? Just a few posts ago you were declaring that Hannibal could only ever hope to appeal to a niche audience because of its dark and depressing characteristics. How have those other shows done? Have any of them been successful? Or I suppose you could look at qualifying your statements a little more…

    You really need to stop with the snark, it really does make you look stupid and doesn’t prove anything at all.

    I tend to disagree. My snark is rather ably highlighting the point I was making that you dislike, disagree with or simply don’t grasp the point doesn’t mean a whole lot to me.

    Why do you seriously not understand this? Do you not watch The Walking Dead? Or have you missed all the drama and talking that takes up the majority of any given episode.

    Have you watched an episode of Hannibal yet? You seem to be labouring under the false impression that its a non-stop depressing blood bath. It, like any other television drama, features a lot of dialogue and character interaction which is not only not drenched in blood but isn’t depressing at all.

    The point, which you’ve rather staggeringly and repeatedly failed to grasp, is that The Walking Dead is a prominent example of a series that reads like a dark (and depressing) niche drama with no broad audience appeal. Game of Thrones could just as easily have been another example of a show that appears to be nothing more than a niche drama appealing to a small band of people. However these shows have proven to be much more than that despite being dark, gory and yes even depressing at times. As you rightly point out people tune in for the actual drama and yet you seem to be labouring under the notion that people (and a large number of them) couldn’t possibly tune into Hannibal for exactly the same reason. The drama.

    First of all, your argument was nonsensical.

    Given that you seem completely incapable of actually grasping what the argument is I’m not inclined to trust your judgement on this. Equally the statements you’ve made have made me less inclined to trust your judgement.

  • hi

    Btw, where Nikita is a looser when was renewed with a lot of 0.4’s and now will be renewed with a lot of 0.3’s??

    I call this LUCK!

    You just shut up already!

  • Amy

    The people pointing out that BATB has more total viewers than TVD are cracking me up. The demo is what matters and they’re repeats.

  • Kavyn

    I’m definitely considering tuning in to Hannibal now that it rose. I wanted to wait to see its week two ratings.

    I could easily see it get renewed for Friday to pair it with Grimm, which sounds like it would be a really great pairing.

  • The End

    @Alex
    @you were attempting to completely disregard the massive success both the books and films featuring the character have had in the US.

    No, I was pointing out the global appeal of the franchise, something you neglected to do originally.

    @I tend to disagree. My snark is rather ably highlighting the point I was making that you dislike, disagree with or simply don’t grasp the point doesn’t mean a whole lot to me.

    Really says it all. I’m reading your ‘snark’ thinking you’re nothing but a fool in all honesty, you’re not proving any point, you’re trying your hardest to try and make a point which to be honest has been pretty meaningless in the long run.

    You need to work on that snark there, it’s laughable at best, and made responding to it painful, it felt like my IQ was dropping reading that drivel.

    @Given that you seem completely incapable of actually grasping what the argument is I’m not inclined to trust your judgement on this. Equally the statements you’ve made have made me less inclined to trust your judgement.

    You sure you’re not talking about yourself there? Because you clearly have no idea what you’re talking about and have been trying your hardest to put as many snarky remarks in one post as possible, which made it painful to read, as said.

    I’ve put my point across clearly and concisely, pity you can’t grasp clearly.

  • The End

    I suggest anyone read back to see my point. I made the effort to respond to huge walls of ‘snark’ he wasn’t making any point and was clearly trying to set some kind of meaningless record for the most amount of snarky remarks in a single post.

    Every reply I’ve made to him has simply been in the context of his argument in said posts. Give me some credit at least, anyone reading his IQ destroying drivel might do worse lol

  • andri

    Delighting in Hannibal given SVI has worn thinly over the years.

  • JackMcRue

    @The End

    Be quiet, man. You’re talking nonsense.

  • JackMcRue

    Hannibal is amazing, and if you would take the time to actually watch it,
    you would notice that it’s just as character driven as Walking Dead and other quality TV-Shows.

    But because you’re probably a fand of Scandal or Elementary,
    you wouldn’t know quality TV anyway.

  • The End

    @JackMcRue

    Respectfully disagree there.

  • Freddy Arrow

    @The End

    “I suggest anyone read back to see my point.”

    OK

    “He probably thinks that there isn’t a huge audience out there for a very dark, and somewhat depressing show, and to be fair, he has a point. By it’s very nature Hannibal would never be a 10 million rated show, not even a 6-7, but it’l certainly be a show that can survive on the numbers it’s recieving at the moment.”

    Now that I’ve done that, I also strongly disagree with you. If SVU, Criminal Minds and The Following can be hits, I see no reason why Hannibal can’t. Hannibal’s problem isn’t that a lot of people are rejecting it after checking it out, it’s that hardly anyone is checking it out. I’d guess that a lot of potential fans have no idea that it’s even on.

  • The End

    @JackMcRue

    And are two different genre shows, which was mostly my point. One is a drama horror show, the other a psychological thriller horror, they are almost nothing alike. And I wasn’t hating on the show either.

  • The End

    @Freddy Arrow

    As said previously. Hannibal is a much darker show than any of the shows you’ve listed. That of course was when I received huges walls of snark from a guy incapable of constructing a reasonable argument without coming across as insulting.

    @I’d guess that a lot of potential fans have no idea that it’s even on.

    You can say that about any show though. My point was that by its very nature this show won’t appeal to everyone. Infact a lot of critics even agree and describe the show as a very dark show that gets progressively more dark and depressing as it goes along. Says it all.

  • Alex

    @The End
    I’ve put my point across clearly and concisely, pity you can’t grasp clearly.

    *sigh*

    The point that you put across was that Hannibal is a show that can’t ever hope to be more than a niche show because its simply too dark and depressing. You also claimed the themes it tackles run counter to attracting a big audience. Well actually you didn’t necessarily claim that I’m just reading that into your vague ‘its not the quality its the themes’ sentence.

    My response to this was that this would be a perfectly reasonable statement if there weren’t already multiple examples of audiences eating up the character of Hannibal Lecter (darkness and all) in their millions. Equally I pointed out that a dark and rather gory show has managed to achieve massive audience levels on a little watched cable network so clearly audiences don’t have too much problem with gory and dark content. Indeed there are any number of television shows that illustrate that audiences will embrace dark drama that I could have used I just opted for Walking Dead because it happens to be the biggest example.

    You however attempted to downplay the success of the Hannibal Lecter character in the US market – Perhaps he didn’t ignore the fact they were multi million selling books worldwide, and not just in the United States – and argue that we had no way of knowing how many Nielsen homes are into a “dark, depressing kind of show. Which was mostly my point”. The second statement is patently untrue given that there are (as you would go onto admit) a lot of shows that can be classed as dark and depressing although again I have no idea where this depressing tag comes from for Hannibal. It isn’t. So in truth we know that dark shows absolutely can find large audiences even within Nielsen homes because they have in the past and present. We also know that gory shows can do the same and that seemingly niche shows that appear to have little in the way of broad audience appeal can breakout into major successes. So this ‘we’ll just never know’ point is somewhat ridiculous by any measure.

    With faced with the fact that The Walking Dead has achieved massive success despite being rather dark, gory and at times depressing you back tracked from your original stance that its the tone and the themes. Instead you argued that to compare Hannibal and The Walking Dead is pointless. They’re different shows. The Walking Dead had an established audience because of its source material conveniently over looking that you dismissed this argument regarding Hannibal which had much more successful and well known source material. And people watch the show because of the characters and the stories essentially the drama. Again conveniently overlooking that you’d dismissed Hannibal as a niche show not because of the drama or the characters or the character interaction (in fact you’d seemingly previously implied that these things were of high quality within Hannibal) but because it was just too dark and depressing. Forget the quality of the drama its the themes.

    I used snark (and a lot of it) because the points you were making really aren’t worthy of much more than that especially after you began contradicting them. By all means talk about how you feel as if your IQ has been lowered (that’s some high quality snark right there!) but take a minute to follow your own advice and actually re-read your own posts. You might just find that they aren’t anywhere near as insightful or clever as you seem to believe they were. Instead they put forward a series of contradictory points that were desperately trying to advance the notion that Hannibal is simply too dark to be a success whilst arguing that what really attracts audiences to a show is the characters and their interactions with one another not the tone or outside appearance of it. Unfortunately you don’t get to have it both ways.

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