Cable News Ratings for Monday, May 27, 2013

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May 29th, 2013


Live + Same Day Cable News Daily Ratings for May 27, 2013

P2+ (000s) 25-54 (000s) 35-64 (000s)
Total Day
FNC         951            155            321
CNN         355            123            159
MSNBC         298            154            148
CNBC         135             57             66
FBN           31               8             14
HLN         207             81            120
Primetime P2+ (000s) 25-54 (000s) 35-64 (000s)
FNC       1,575            225            434
CNN         443            164            217
MSNBC         332            154            150
CNBC         193             99            111
FBN           31               3             15
HLN         260            103            159
Net Morning programs (6-9 AM) P2+ (000s) 25-54 (000s) 35-64 (000s)
FNC FOX & Friends         902            177            357
CNN Early Start/Starting Point         209             81            105
MSNBC Morning Joe         162             73             69
CNBC Squawk Box           60             13             36
HLN Morning Express w/ Meade         203             74            142
Net 5PM P2+ (000s) 25-54 (000s) 35-64 (000s)
FNC FIVE, THE       1,496            185            457
CNN SITUATION ROOM         520            101            150
MSNBC MSNBC SPECIAL         455            239            211
CNBC AMERICAN GREED         285            109            112
HLN EVENING EXPRESS         193             54             85
Net 6PM P2+ (000s) 25-54 (000s) 35-64 (000s)
FNC SPECIAL RPT W/BRET BAIER       1,475            187            432
CNN SITUATION ROOM         454            127            171
MSNBC MSNBC SPECIAL         497            273            220
CNBC AMERICAN GREED         210             90             91
HLN EVENING EXPRESS         239             74            122
Net 7PM P2+ (000s) 25-54 (000s) 35-64 (000s)
FNC THE FOX REPORT W/S.SMITH       1,392            168            413
CNN ERIN BURNETT OUTFRONT         464            163            230
MSNBC MSNBC SPECIAL         710            343            315
CNBC AMERICAN GREED         171             80             90
HLN NANCY GRACE         224             90            127
Net 8PM P2+ (000s) 25-54 (000s) 35-64 (000s)
FNC THE OREILLY FACTOR SPCL       2,188            284            621
CNN ANDERSON COOPER 360         557            159            242
MSNBC MSNBC SPECIAL         451            232            197
CNBC CAR CHASERS, THE         162            100             95
HLN NANCY GRACE         282            130            197
Net 9PM P2+ (000s) 25-54 (000s) 35-64 (000s)
FNC HANNITY SPECIAL       1,586            249            431
CNN HBO DOCUMENTARY FILM         389            155            188
MSNBC MSNBC SPECIAL         279            120            122
CNBC MARIJUANA USA         216            120            132
HLN DR. DREW ON CALL         277             86            147
Net 10PM P2+ (000s) 25-54 (000s) 35-64 (000s)
FNC THE FOX REPORT W/S.SMITH         937            141            249
CNN HBO DOCUMENTARY FILM         383            180            221
MSNBC MSNBC SPECIAL         267            111            131
CNBC AMERICAN GREED         201             76            107
HLN NANCY GRACE         222             91            134
Net 11PM P2+ (000s) 25-54 (000s) 35-64 (000s)
FNC THE OREILLY FACTOR SPCL         844            176            390
CNN ANDERSON COOPER 360         234             97            100
MSNBC MSNBC SPECIAL         365            217            214
CNBC CAR CHASERS, THE         149             93             80
HLN EVENING EXPRESS         147             76             85

For other days cable news ratings click here.

P2+ = viewers over the age of 2

(25-54) = Adults 25-54 viewing

(35-64) = Adults 35-64 viewing

Prime Time = 8-11pm

LIVE+SD: The number that watched a program either while it was broadcast OR watched via DVR on the same day [through 3AM the next day] the program was broadcast. For more information see Numbers 101.

Scratch = when a show's audience fails to meet minimum Nielsen reporting levels. For more information go here.

Nielsen Cable Network Coverage Estimates (as of July, 2012)

CNN/HLN: 99.727 million HHs

CNBC: 97.497 million HHs

FNC: 97.981 million HHs

MSNBC: 95.526 million HHs

Fox Business: 68.407 million HHs

Nielsen TV Ratings Data: ©2013 The Nielsen Company. All Rights Reserved.

  • Jeff

    Lordy!! msnbc special destroys Fox News lineup!
    msnbc wins key demo across the board Saturday and Sunday!

  • Jeff

    Republicans lie more than Democrats!!

    According to a new study by the Center for Media and Public Affairs, Republicans were found to be significantly more dishonest in their public statements than Democrats. The CMPA examined 100 statements by members of both parties that were fact-checked by PolitiFact.com between January 20, to May 22, of 2013. Here is a summary of their findings:
    PolitiFact rated 32% of Republican claims as “false” or “pants on fire,” compared to 11% of Democratic claims – a 3 to 1 margin.
    Conversely, Politifact rated 22% of Democratic claims as “entirely true” compared to 11% of Republican claims – a 2 to 1 margin.
    A majority of Democratic statements (54%) were rated as mostly or entirely true, compared to only 18% of Republican statements.
    Conversely, a majority of Republican statements (52%) were rated as mostly or entirely false, compared to only 24% of Democratic statements.
    Despite controversies over Obama administration statements regarding Benghazi, the IRS and the Associated Press, Republicans have continued to fare worse than Democrats, with 60% of their claims rated as false so far this month (May 1 – May 22), compared to 29% of Democratic statements – a 2 to 1 margin.
    The results of this research may appear to be common sense that any informed person would have known prior to the study, but having a bona fide analysis conducted by a neutral, academic source affirm what is observably true is useful in the ongoing debate over the veracity of our leaders.
    This study corroborates my own reporting during the presidential election last year that showed Mitt Romney spewing falsehoods at a far greater rate than the Obama campaign. He won PolitiFact’s “Lie of the Year” award and set a record for assaults on the truth by earning 84 citations of falsehoods (41% in all), 19 of which were “Pants-on-Fire.” But then what should we expect from a party that proudly proclaimed that “We’re not going to let our campaign be dictated by fact-checkers.”

  • van

    MSNBC didnt even have the news playing at all on Monday. Some shows about Caught On Camera. Thats the only way they can get the ratings up.No news from them means no lies!!!

  • Jeff

    Fox News Throws Out Benghazi With Yesterday’s Scandal Trash

    Remember way back to those forgone days when spring was nascent and Benghazi was blooming like kudzu on crack? All the way back to the first week of May 2013, a time of carefree apoplexy over impetuous and exploitable tragedies. The old-timers will recall just how vibrant and fulfilling it was for the demagogues and scavengers who feast on scandal, but whose appetite has now moved on to fresher carcasses.

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    Those days are now faint memories. All those week or two ago, when outraged conservatives in the press could think of nothing other than the horror that took place some eight months earlier in a remote Libyan outpost, are like whispers on the lips of ghosts.
    It seems incomprehensible that there were once such emphatic calls for Barack Obama’s impeachment due to the Libyan attacks; that pundits envisioned him being driven from office; that Watergate analogies spread like a plague. Because in recent days there has been hardly a mention of any of it. Fox News, who was blanketing their airwaves with Benghazi Fever a week ago, have all but ignored the story this week. Having failed to ignite a fire under Obama’s presidency, the Benghazi affair has been consigned to the garbage heap of history. Along with such other notable pseudo-scandals as Solyndra, Fast & Furious, gun confiscations, the climate change hoax, Sharia Law, death panels, pallin’ around with terrorists, and the Kenyan nativity, Benghazi has been picked clean by the vultures of the Tea-publican prairie, and having concluded that there is no meat left on the bones, they see no reason to stick around.
    That is not to say that the rightist mobs have abandoned their mission to destroy Obama. They have just refocused their attention on a younger, prettier scandal peeking out from behind the skirts of the sultry Internal Revenue Service. This is now the new gate-suffixed controversy that demands immediate impeachment hearings and affiliated witch trials.
    The ease with which the Wingnut Inquisitionists shift from one hysteria to another reveals something foundational about their character. It is obvious that they couldn’t care less about the patriots who died in Benghazi or their grieving families. They don’t care about the policies that impact the security of Americans in foreign territories. They only care about how tragedies such as these can be exploited politically, and when it becomes apparent that their political punch has petered out, they can’t abandon them quickly enough.
    So it’s off with Benghazi and on to the IRS – for now. Rest assured that this too shall pass as soon as the Obama-bashers realize that they can’t hang this one around his neck either. So even the legitimate concerns raised with regard to the abuse of power and politicization of the taxing agency will go unanswered. Without an Obama angle, Fox and their GOP benefactors see no reason to pursue it. They would rather not waste their time cleaning up the IRS – or securing diplomatic embassies, or mandating universal background checks for assault weapons, or stimulating the economy and creating jobs, or performing any of the other functions of governing – unless it could lead to toppling Obama.
    One thing you can say for them is that they have a single-minded devotion to purpose. And their purpose has nothing whatsoever to do with serving America or its people. Their purpose is, and has always been, to deep-six a president they never considered legitimate; who was never patriotic enough, Christian enough, smart enough, or white enough.

  • Jeff

    Thanks To Fox News: Human Intelligence Is On The Decline

    Imagine my surprise to find a story on Fox Nation, the lie-riddled community web site of Fox News, about the decline of human intelligence. Was this an attempt to convey the results of an academic study, or are they just bragging?

    The article refers to a study done at the University of Amsterdam that concludes that westerners have lost 14 IQ points on average since the Victorian Era. The study’s author surmised that a number of complex factors led to the conclusion that was based on tests of visual reaction times. The tests reflect a person’s mental processing speed which correlates to IQ. Among the explanations offered for the brain drain were the migration of populations to densely packed cities and a tendency for more intelligent women to choose to have fewer children.
    Not surprisingly, the Fox Nationalists utterly misconstrued the study’s findings. Their linked source for the story was an article on the conservative blog, Townhall, where the web editor dismissed the science behind the research and offered his own opinion that the decline in IQ was caused by MTV and video games. Somewhere along the way he missed the fact that the reported decline occurred over a period of more than a hundred years, which makes his hypothesis focusing modern television and technology a pretty good example of a dumbed-down contemporary human.
    The rejection of science is not unusual for conservatives who persistently refuse to accept the scientific community’s nearly universal consensus on things like evolution and climate change. That may explain why scientists themselves veer away from conservative associations. A study by the Pew Center for the People and the Press revealed that “most scientists identify as Democrats (55%), while 32% identify as independents and just 6% say they are Republicans.”
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    Furthermore, if there is a decline in intelligence, it is most starkly evident in the Tea-publican Party. A report published by (of all places) Fox Business, surveyed the nation’s academic profile and found that the ten states with the best educated citizens were all “blue” states, while nine of the ten worst educated were “red” states (and eight of those were in the south).

    The decline of western intelligence, according to the Amsterdam data, has been in the works for many decades. It would be interesting to conduct another version of this research that measures IQ in the United States since 1996, the year that Fox News debuted. Numerous studies have already documented the fact that Fox News viewers are more ill-informed than consumers of other media. In fact, one study demonstrates that the more one watches Fox, the more misinformed one becomes. Of course, being ignorant or misinformed is not the same as lacking intelligence. But it has the same effect on electoral outcomes and, consequently, public policy.
    So whether Fox viewers are stupid or ignorant is immaterial.

  • Jeff

    UPDATED: Fox Expands IRS “Scandal” To Include Legitimate Practices

    Fox News is helping American Center for Law and Justice’s chief counsel Jay Sekulow baselessly accuse the Obama administration of continuing to use inappropriate screening to scrutinize nonprofit groups even after Obama condemned that practice. Sekulow’s Fox-fueled campaign comes as legal experts say the IRS must continue assessing whether groups are eligible for nonprofit status.

    A recent Inspector General report found that one of the IRS offices responsible for approving nonprofit status was targeting conservative groups. Following the report, President Obama condemned the actions of the office as “intolerable and inexcusable” and called for those responsible to be held accountable. Acting IRS commissioner Steven Miller was fired as a result of the improper scrutiny, and Attorney General Eric Holder ordered a criminal investigation.

    Fox hosted Sekulow to discuss the controversy. During the segment, Sekulow complained that, despite the investigation, the IRS was continuing to apply heavy scrutiny to conservative groups that he represents in court. Sekulow cited an eight-page compliance letter that an unnamed nonprofit received that contained “intrusive questions,” calling the IRS’ actions “harassment”:

    But although one office of the IRS improperly delayed the nonprofit status of some groups, Sekulow provided no evidence that the groups he represents were targets of the same tactics. While the Inspector General’s report criticized the actions of that office, it did not call for an end to scrutiny on groups applying for nonprofit status, and legal experts have pointed out that the investigation should be used as a reason to draw down the review process on those groups.

    In the Huffington Post, Jessica Levinson, editor of Loyola University Law School’s PoLawTics blog, pointed out that “the problem isn’t that the IRS asked for too much information from organizations seeking favorable tax treatment, it is that they only asked for that information from conservative organizations”:

    [O]nce an organization obtains non-profit status under section 501c4 of the IRS code, any political fundraising by that organization is essentially clothed in secrecy. This is a perilous state of affairs. When organizations “speak” to us by spending money to try to influence whom we chose to represent us in our government, then we the people have an important interest in knowing the identities, the true identities, behind those attempting to persuade us.

    In addition, it remains to be seen whether many of these organizations, purportedly dedicated to social welfare, are little more than political committees. Karl Rove’s Crossroads GPS comes to mind as but one example. If it looks like a political committee, and it raises and spends like a political committee, then it just might be a political committee. One of the differences between political committees and 501c4s is, of course, that political committees must disclose their donors.

    Other legal experts have echoed similar concerns. Thomas Kelley, a professor at the University of North Carolina School of Law noted that “it should not be forgotten that it seems fairly clear that many of the c4s are in fact breaking the law, and that, after Citizens’ United, many organizations are using c4s to engage in campaign activity while hiding their donors’ identities.” In a Roll Call op-ed, Loyola Law School professor Ellen Aprill wrote:

    IRS employees who review applications for exemption have a duty to ask follow-up questions of applicants, including groups affiliated with the tea party. In the current controversy, IRS reviewers wrongly singled out conservative groups for unusually exacting follow-up. In a number of these cases, they also asked inappropriate questions, such as the identity of donors.

    Some media reports, however, imply that the IRS cannot and should not ask any questions of applicants for exemption, that any inquiry invades privacy and violates the First Amendment. That implication is wrong. An organization that seeks an IRS acknowledgment of its exempt status subjects itself to scrutiny — scrutiny designed to ensure that the group in fact qualifies for the benefit of tax exemption.

    UPDATE: On the Washington Post’s Wonkblog, Ezra Klein, who appeared on MSNBC’s Morning Joe with Sekulow, wrote that Sekulow is “confusing what the IRS scandal is about,” noting that the “scandal is about targeting conservatives, not scrutinizing 501(c)(4)s”:

    Here’s what Sekulow is saying: Tea party groups received questions about their political activities that originated from a variety of different IRS offices, not just Cincinnati. That’s not necessarily a problem and it’s not even new information.

    It was proper that the tea party groups received heavy scrutiny. As the New York Times has firmly established, many of them were primarily political groups that potentially didn’t qualify for 501(c)(4) status.

    Sekulow is trying to widen the scandal by changing the premise: He’s arguing that the real problem here was the actual questioning of tea party groups applying for 501(c)(4) status, and so anyone who participated in the work of trying to follow up on the applications chosen for extra scrutiny did something wrong. That gets this backwards: The problem wasn’t that the IRS closely scrutinized questionable applications from tea party groups. It’s that they didn’t closely scrutinized the applications from other questionable groups as well. The scrutiny was the part they did right. The targeting was the part they did wrong.

  • Sicilian Papa

    MSNBC wins without any of their hosts. So long as they don’t have Tingles, Sharpie, Hayes, Maddow and O’Donnell they do better.

  • Jeff

    FLASHBACK: Before Fox News Attacked The IRS, They Embraced It To Attack Media Matters

    In researching the recent controversies over the IRS and its alleged targeting of conservative non-profits, I stumbled across an article I wrote two years ago that unveils yet another blatant hypocrisy from Fox News (as if more were necessary to make the point). The current programming on Fox is dedicated almost non-stop to hammering the Obama administration for the misbehavior of low-level IRS staff. The story has even supplanted their previous pet scandal, Benghazi. And despite making broad accusations of complicity by the President, they have failed to provide even a smidgen of evidence that he had any role in the way that non-profits were selected for review.
    That simple fact, however, has not stopped Fox from launching a sustained campaign of outrage aimed at the IRS, which they now regard as a totalitarian agency bent on destroying America and freedom. But it was not always thus. Not too long ago, Fox News was happy to use the IRS as a cudgel against their own perceived enemies. They embarked on mission to wipe the watchdog group Media Matters off the face of the earth. It was a weeks-long effort that included dozens of broadcast segments explicitly recruiting their viewers to file falsified complaints challenging the tax-exempt status of Media Matters. In the process they brought in pundits, and lawyers, and even their in-house “Psycho Analyst” to paint a disparaging portrait of the organization and its founder.

    The irony of Fox using the IRS to harass a non-profit organization just because they disagree agree with it will surely be lost on everyone at Fox and everyone who watches it. Below is the article re-posted in full because it is still as relevant today as it was then. Actually more so, with the addition of Fox’s newly minted contempt for the IRS.
    Media Matters Has Fox News Scared And Desperate
    [July 11, 2011] In the untamed jungle that is cable news, there is a ferocious and predatory beast stalking the terrain. Anyone who has encountered Fox News in the wild can attest to the spine-chilling threat imposed by the pseudo-news network. And now Fox News has the scent of new game.
    The Fox News pack is on the prowl for the media watchdog group, Media Matters, against whom they have recently initiated a sustained assault. In the past two weeks they have featured over 30 stories with the express purpose of challenging the group’s right to exist. Fox has assigned network stalwarts like Bill O’Reilly, Bret Baier, Charles Krauthammer, James Rosen, Ann Coulter, Dick Morris, and Bernie Goldberg, to the mission. This is an unprecedented, broadly distributed attack by a major media enterprise against a non-profit group they regard as an adversary.
    This latest batch of complaints stem from comments made last March by Media Matters founder, David Brock. He was quoted in Politico as saying that the organization was shifting its focus toward Fox News to one of “guerrilla warfare and sabotage.” Giving Fox the benefit of doubt, one might conclude that it’s only fair that Fox defend itself from such an overt declaration of war. The only thing that might refute that perspective is – reality.
    If this is war, it is one wherein Fox is the aggressor. Fox News initiated their attacks long ago with aggressive and false assertions that cast Media Matters as hacks, anti-American, violent, and communist. They alleged that George Soros was pulling their strings long before Soros ever made any contributions the group. Fox stalwarts like Bill O’Reilly and Glenn Beck engaged in rhetoric so hostile that it inspired actual physical attacks against Media Matters and their progressive allies. This video (courtesy of Media Matters) was posted two years ago and illustrates the hostility harbored across the Fox platform long before Brock’s recent comments:

  • Jeff

    When people are feeling patriotic they rather watch prison programs, or caught on camera footage than Fox News Anti American rhetoric or propaganda!!

  • Jeff

    Glenn Beck’s Latest Conspiracy Theory: The Media Is Conspiring To Label Him A Conspiracy Theorist

    Before anyone asks — No, that headline is not from The Onion. And the best way to demonstrate the lunacy in Glenn Beck’s most recent harangue is to let Beck do it himself:

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    “The media has a story line and an agenda, and they will get to it. And they certainly don’t want anybody to ever think that anything is ever planned. The media has their own agenda, and if the media has a storyline, it just writes it in. And currently the storyline is ‘conspiracy theorist.’
    “Now why…why would that be the agenda item now? Why is it a concentrated effort, more than any other time in my career, why is it a concentrated effort now to label me a conspiracy theorist? Well, I’ll tell you why. It goes back to Cass Sunstein. It is exactly what he wrote. He said government should call anyone who stands against them a conspiracy theorist.
    “This isn’t a conspiracy theory. This is what he wrote about. Even if it turns out to be true, you have to label people as a conspiracy theorist because it isolates them. So that’s exactly what’s happening now and I don’t really care. I mean I knew from like four years ago, I’m not getting out of this with my name or reputation. That’s fine.”
    Apparently the incident that touched off this rant was Beck’s accusation that CNN’s Wolf Blitzer was set up by an atheist activist on his staff prior to interviewing an Oklahoma tornado survivor who declined Blitzer’s invitation to thank God because she was non-believer. For some reason Beck doesn’t consider his theory that Blitzer’s staff conspired against him to be a conspiracy theory.
    However, what’s truly and remarkably hysterical about Beck’s persistent paranoia and deviant Messiah complex is his belief that there is some new found agenda on the part of the media to label him a conspiracy theorist. First of all, the media has played no part in Beck’s conspiratorial psychosis. He has done that all by himself. And secondly, it certainly isn’t new. How many conspiracies does Beck have to theorize before his reputation is established? Here are just a few:
    Beck spewed some delusional ravings about a Saudi man Beck believed was the
    mastermind of the Boston marathon bombing.
    Beck claimed that the man who showed up at the Houston airport firing an AR-15, and later committing suicide, was some sort of setup directed at the NRA’s convention being held in Houston.
    Beck published a book titled “Agenda 21? that is based on a nightmare fable of the United Nations subjugating the world to slavery on the pretense of building sustainable communities.
    Beck is certain that the art and architecture of Manhattan conceals communist propaganda.
    Beck has discovered that the whole birther mess was actually devised and implemented by a scheming White House in an attempt to divert attention away from a dastardly blueprint to bankrupt America and deliver its carcass to her enemies.
    Beck’s reference to Cass Sunstein is a reprise of his classic mania that consisted of wild and unsupported blathering about Sunstein, George Soros, Cloward and Piven, Saul Alinsky, the United Nations, the Muslim Brotherhood, and others who were all engaged in a clandestine plot, with the help of the media, to abolish freedom.
    And that is just the low-hanging fruitcake. Beck has also produced programs that insist that there is a coordinated plot between the Godless communists and the extremist Muslims to build a global Muslim Caliphate. He aired a three day special accusing George Soros of being the “Puppet Master” behind virtually every dastardly deed you can think of. He has hounded Van Jones, Shirley Sherrod, ACORN, and others relentlessly as co-conspirators in the march to Armageddon. And he has claimed so many times that the “Perfect Storm” that will herald humanity’s demise is upon us that it’s hard to keep count.
    That isn’t conspiratorial at all, is it?
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  • van

    Man Jeff…you are really full of yourself today. Soo full of s%$t your eyes are brown….Go back to sticking your head in the sand and believe what the left is telling you. Jobs are great! Over 7% still uneployement…48 million on food stamps…17 trillion in debt.Tax payers still owen over 50+% of GMC. Showel Ready jobs not sooo shovel ready. Cash for Clunkers. Fast and Furious guns to Mexico. Printing 85 Billion dollars a month.Obama Care train wreck is coming. I could keep going but why waiste my time with you.

  • Jeff

    Sorry for the long posts!! Great reads however!

    Have a great day!



  • Jeff

    Van get a reality check! Then talk to me!

  • Jeff

    Great stories coming out about how Obamacare is saving lives. You can’t change that reality Van!

    Nice try though!

  • Mary

    FOX is true and balanced news and #1 live with it

  • Jeff

    Oh I couldn’t forget this one!!

    Michele Bachmann Abandoning Ship As Perfect Storm Approaches

    It’s hard to say who will be hurt most by Michele Bachmann’s announcement that she will not seek reelection – The congressional Tea Party Caucus or America’s comedy writers.

    There is no doubt that Bachmann has been the source of endless material for mockery. Her surreal extremism, coupled with a passion for self-promotion, combined to pack a walloping punch of political psychopathy. But according to Bachmann, her exit from the congressional stage must not be viewed as any sort of weakness on her part as a candidate (despite nearly losing last November), nor any commentary on the fact that investigations into her finances have blossomed from the congressional ethics committee to the FBI.
    ThinkProgress has complied an entertaining review of Bachmann’s career in congress. And here are a couple of choice morsels they left out:
    Bachmann proclaimed her intention to be subservient to her husband were she to be elected president: “…the Lord said, ‘Be submissive. Wives, you are to be submissive to your husbands.’”
    Bachmann signed a pledge circulated by a radical evangelical asserting that life for African-Americans was better during the era of slavery.
    Bachmann gushed her admiration for a serial killer: “Just like John Wayne was from Waterloo, Iowa, that’s the kind of spirit that I have, too.” Actually, it was murderer and clown painter John Wayne Gacy who was from Waterloo.

    Bachmann will now be free to pursue an even greater ambition than gumming up the work of congress. Look for her to make more frequent appearances on Fox News and perhaps even score her own program (watch out Greta Van Susteren). She has plenty of evidence of the profitability of being a right-wing, Tea-baaagging, fruitcake, in the works of her comrade, Sarah Palin. It’s a safe bet that she will journey down the same path and participate in the fleecing of the flock and the lining of her pockets. Because that’s what grifters do.

  • Jeff

    60% of Americans say religion has lost it influence on Americans.

    Religion has chased people away with their effort to control people, and straying away from the teachings they cherish.

  • van

    Jeff..you have no clue about Obama care. It shows that you havent read it. What about the other items I mentioned? I would like to see those stories about how it saved lives. Please show us!!


    Jeff…. Just letting you know, people don’t read long page long rants… If you want people to listen. Condense your thoughts. I don’t enjoy shifting through a whole comment page looking for someone who isn’t Jeff

  • Jeff

    BBL!! Fair warning!! :)

    Enjoy your dinner and your evening!!

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