Soap Opera Ratings: 'General Hospital' Rebounds From Lows

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July 19th, 2013


via Soap Opera Network:

July 8-12, 2013

Numbers are based on Live+Same Day ratings

(Compared to Last Week/Compared to Last Year)

Total Viewers
1. Y&R 4,654,000 (+258,000/+252,000)
2. B&B 3,509,000 (+86,000/+444,000)
3. DAYS 2,450,000 (-147,000/+220,000)
4. GH 2,449,000 (+117,000/+131,000)

1. Y&R 3.4/10 (+.1/+.2)
2. B&B 2.5/8 (same/+.2)
3. DAYS 1.9/6 (-.1/+.2)
4. GH 1.8/6 (same/+.1)


Women 18-49 Viewers
1. Y&R 876,000 (+47,000/+29,000)
2. B&B 631,000 (-44,000/+5,000)
3. GH 610,000 (+87,000/+53,000)
4. DAYS 548,000 (-17,000/+125,000)

Women 18-49 Rating
1. Y&R 1.4/9 (+.1/+.1)
2. B&B 1.0/6 (-.1/same)
2. GH 1.0/6 (+.2/+.1)
4. DAYS 0.9/6 (same/+.2)


Source: Soap Opera Network


Y&R = The Young & The Restless, B&B = The Bold and The Beautiful, GH = General Hospital, DAYS = Days of Our Lives.

Nielsen TV Ratings Data: ©2013 The Nielsen Company. All Rights Reserved.

  • Tv Bob

    Is anyone aware that the only happily married couple on BB is gay… Karen Spencer and Crystal Chappell have a solid marriage, unlike Bill and Katie. Very progressive.

  • Mike

    TV Bob — that would probably change if they really wanted to or had time to write for them. Isn’t the actress who plays Karen still basically unavailable to them most of the time? Busy with her directing or producing career. No couple ever stays happy long on B&B.


    Couldn’t sleep this morning so up browsing some sites and stuff. Weird morning in soap land.

    These soap opera rumors really take flight. Evidently there was a rumor that Sean Kanan had been fired so they blew up his Twitter account asking. He says no.

    And somebody sure put a bee in Jack Wagner’s bonnet. Doubt he will be invited back to GH. His Tweets about GH are not favorable at all. Evidently he has been watching and even he commented on the ratings drop since the 50th.

    And sorry but I find it sad that being a soap fan in this day and age comes down to defending crap many times. I just shake my head in sadness and then in laughter too when I hear fans arguing over who has or has had the worse story.

    I actually read a comment this morning that said something along the lines of this Franco mess might be bad but at least we haven’t had someone floating above a bed yet. And lots of similar comments.

    Why do people think it makes their show sound better if they put down someone else’s show. Sorry but it doesn’t make me want to watch because basically they are admitting their show is bad.

    That statement might as well say to me okay today I get to choose to have either a bad cold or a sinus infection. Sorry but when I have to choose between bad and bad I’m gonna search for another option.

  • Bizzarr1000

    I hope the rumors are true about Bo Brady coming to GH and possibly a member the Jerome familyI think it be cool to see him play a different role no I’m not saying it’s true but I just think it be a cool idea

  • JayTN

    Mike…I assume by “someone floating above a bed” is referencing the Marlena possession storyline on “Days” from many years ago. James E. Reilly – the head writer who came up with that plotline and many others – was not my most favorite writer (he seemed to go off the rails on his own creation “Passions” with his never-ending storylines), but those wacky out-there plots revitalized “Days” during his tenure…so much so that they brought him back years after he left. At least his wacky, out-there plots were somewhat realistic, at least for those of you who believe in demonic or supernatural possession (“The Conjuring”, which features an evil spirit possession, was no. 1 at the weekend box office, after all).

  • Joe S

    Soaps have always reverted to wacky plots. Look at OLTL in the 80s with the Vicki goes to heavan story, the underground city, and Vicki and Clint going back to the 1800’s.

    I don’t think people making these points are trying to make their show look better. The statement is just proving how low shows have gone. Some of these ridiculous plot lines have worked, others not so much.

    Regardless no one should be put down for what they are saying good or bad. If someone has something good to say, bad to say, etc it is their right. That is the one thing that gets you is when some people think only they can post what they want yet jump down the throats of others.

    As for the Franco mess, it is just that. The fact the writers refuse to accept it is an even bigger problem. Until ABC steps in though I don’t see much changing.

  • Bex

    Wagner’s tweets were exactly on the mark. GH had everything`on it’s side during the 5oth, and Cartini dropped the ball big time. Jack saying that his character was written out-of-character is just echoing what many fans have been complaining about for month.

    Ron does not know GH, he attempts to rewrite history, while recycling old stories from glory days at OLTL.

    @Bizzarr, sorry but Peter Reckell isn’t coming to GH, he’s already addressed the rumor. He says, the doors that are opening for him are not daytime.

  • JayTN

    Joe S…I did not watch OLTL during those “wacky” plots (trips to heaven, underground city, wild west), but for the most part, they were too out there, at least for me. While viewers have to suspend their reality when watching a soap, some of these outlandish storylines can also be an insult to the viewers’ intelligence.

    It seems like I remember reading somewhere that the “Viki Goes to Heaven” storyline was in full swing when the writer’s strike happened and the replacement writers took the storyline into a realm that the original writers (who included, I believe, Agnes Nixon) never anticipated. The storyline that the original writers had mapped out sounded okay, but the actual story that appeared on screen – written by the replacement writers – was too far over the top. If you have a soap that is too out-there (such as “Passions”), the writers will feel the need to constantly one-up themselves to the point that the show becomes nothing short of satire. Every series, even soap operas, need to have some grounding in reality to make them relevant and to have the audience care about them. For example, the writers of “Star Trek” (the original TV series) used their outer-space, futuristic story to play out some hot-button social issues of the 1960s, same thing with the military comedy series “M*A*S*H”.

  • jonboyelk

    @Rex And the sad thing is that RC is supposedly a big 80s fan of the show!?!?!?

  • Mike

    Well I hate when people say that soaps have ALWAYS been this way when it is not true.

    The only soaps that were not that way pre-1980 were soaps like Dark Shadows that were set up with the premise to be that way.

    It wasn’t until Gloria Monty introduced such things as the Ice Princess story to soaps that they decided that it was perfectly fine to add such dimensions to the soaps. But it was the people like Agnes Nixon and William J. Bell who learned from the soap master herself who still tried to keep those elements out of their shows.

    Agnes Nixon managed to combine camp to All My Children without resorting to aliens, possession, constant returns from the dead and the like while she was there. She also sought to introduce social issues that elevated the image of soaps to a new level. Later writers finally introduced some of the wilder elements to her show after she had less involvement with it.

    Soaps of the 1960s and 1970s even had medical advisers and legal advisers on staff to make sure that things were accurate.

    Same with Y&R it was later writers after he left who started the wilder things there.

    Believe me I remember the days very well when a soap viewer didn’t have to suspend believe to watch and enjoy his show. And even to this day I still don’t find it an acceptable excuse that you have to suspend your belief to watch them today. I just find it lazy writing. Why extend the effort to make a story believable. I’ll just take the easy way out…fans will just suspend belief and watch it anyway.

    After all that is what Ron C. has said several times on Twitter. He has said several different ways that a true fan will watch and support whatever he writes and not complain about it.

    What is sad that while you sit there and suspend belief you make it easy for him to make thousands of dollars a year and he doesn’t even have to work to do it. Just write crappy stories and berate fans on the Internet if they complain about it.

  • Mike

    What I found interesting about Wagner’s Tweets was that he said he was willing to stay longer, but I thought I had read a statement or interview from someone at GH that he wouldn’t stay longer.

  • Mike

    Oh and TV Media Insights has the ratings for the first week of AMC and OLTL now in full.

    They range from 0.0 to 0.1 for HH ratings.

    OLTL’s highest viewers was 150,000 and lowest for an eppy was 18,000

    AMC ranged from 24,000 to 154,000.

    Looks like overall AMC had a better week. Less 0.0’s than OLTL from the looks of it, but not very impressive ratings at all.

    It won’t let me post the link, but they are on the TV Media Insights webpage.

  • PatF

    Soap fans are very loyal to the characters and show, but not to the writers and EPs.

    If you look at all the soaps that were cancelled, the ones that were went through tons of behind the scenes changes which resulted in too many new characters being brought in. I tried tuning into both GL and ATWT close to their demise. And virtually none of the characters from the 80 and 90’s that I watched were there anymore. A potential viewer lost…and I’m sure that the loyalists left as their characters were written out.

    For the most part over the past 7 or so years, the three regimes that have helmed YR have kept the characters in tact. The most recent EP has done the most recasting and has given quite a bit of airtime to some of her new pet characters. BUT, again the ratings do show that it’s the vets that drive the ratings. Some of the writing isn’t good, but I’ll keep watching as long as the Abbotts, Newmans, Baldwins, Winters are on.

    It’s so simple.

    Someone mentioned Search For Tomorrow. That’s a perfect example of driving the established viewers away by bringing on newer, younger characters…NBC did a horrible job with the transition.

  • PatF

    Gloria Monty was her own worst enemy.

    She had a great transformation at GH with the Luke and Laura story. Got huge ratings with it. When the ratings started going south with her outlandish stories and the viewers left, she didn’t learn and kept it going until YR dethroned it with normal traditional soap writing.

    I think a lot of people identify both GH and Days with less traditional storytelling, and there is an audience for it. But I guarantee you can’t put that type of writing on the Bell shows. People didn’t watch Bill’s shows for anything other than good drama. He was Days best writer, IMO, in the 70’s during its heyday.

  • Joe S

    Here are the full OWN ratings for the first week, from looking at these looks like both AMC and OLTL were pretty even. Not good numbers at all for keeping the shows on TV

    Comparative data from previous weeks on OWN
    July 8-12, 2013 12-2 PM: 84,800 viewers
    July 8-12, 2013 3-4 PM: 145,200 viewers

    June 25-29, 2013 12-2 PM (includes movie on June 27 12-2:30 PM): 106,800 viewers
    June 25-29, 2013 3-4 PM (includes program on June 29 2:30-3:30 PM: 113,200 viewers


    * Mon July 15 12:30PM 0.1 HH, 144,000 total viewers
    * Mon July 15 12:30PM 0.0 HH, 154,000 total viewers
    * Mon July 15 1:00PM 0.1 HH, 152,000 total viewers
    Mon July 15 1:30PM 0.1 HH, 129,000 total viewers

    Tue July 16 12:00PM 0.1 HH, 101,000 total viewers
    Tue July 16 12:30PM 0.0 HH, 38,000 total viewers
    * Tue July 16 1:00PM 0.1 HH, 84,000 total viewers
    Tue July 16 1:30PM 0.1 HH, 61,000 total viewers

    Wed July 17 12:00PM 0.1 HH, 66,000 total viewers
    Wed July 17 12:30PM 0.0 HH, 24,000 total viewers
    * Wed July 17 1:00PM 0.1 HH, 73,000 total viewers
    Wed July 17 1:30PM 0.0 HH, 40,000 total viewers

    Thu July 18 12:00PM 0.1 HH, 52,000 total viewers
    Thu July 18 12:30PM 0.0 HH, 46,000 total viewers
    * Thu July 18 1:00PM 0.1 HH, 138,000 total viewers
    Thu July 18 1:30PM 0.1 HH, 62,000 total viewers

    Fri July 19 12:00PM 0.1 HH, 78,000 total viewers
    Fri July 19 12:30PM 0.0 HH, 54,000 total viewers
    Fri July 19 1:00PM 0.1 HH, 105,000 total viewers
    Fri July 19 1:30PM 0.1 HH, 106,000 total viewers


    * Mon July 15 2:00PM 0.1 HH, 123,000 total viewers
    * Mon July 15 2:30PM 0.1 HH, 102,000 total viewers
    * Mon July 15 3:00PM 0.1 HH, 103,000 total viewers
    Mon July 15 3:30PM 0.1 HH, 66,000 total viewers

    Tue July 16 2:00PM 0.1 HH, 55,000 total viewers
    Tue July 16 2:30PM 0.1 HH, 54,000 total viewers
    * Tue July 16 3:00PM 0.1 HH, 66,000 total viewers
    Tue July 16 3:30PM 0.0 HH, 38,000 total viewers

    Wed July 17 2:00PM 0.0 HH, 18,000 total viewers
    Wed July 17 2:30PM 0.0 HH, 47,000 total viewers
    * Wed July 17 3:00PM 0.1 HH, 136,000 total viewers
    Wed July 17 3:30PM 0.1 HH, 109,000 total viewers

    Thu July 18 2:00PM 0.0 HH, 32,000 total viewers
    Thu July 18 2:30PM 0.0 HH, 26,000 total viewers
    * Thu July 18 3:00PM 0.1 HH, 150,000 total viewers
    Thu July 18 3:30PM 0.0 HH, 44,000 total viewers

    Fri July 19 2:00PM 0.0 HH, 50,000 total viewers
    Fri July 19 2:30PM 0.0 HH, 25,000 total viewers
    Fri July 19 3:00PM 0.1 HH, 93,000 total viewers
    Fri July 19 3:30PM 0.1 HH, 118,000 total viewers

  • Mike

    Pat F,

    I don’t know how you would think that Maria Bell or Lynn Latham kept the characters basically the same.

    Both of them introduced a bunch of new characters and new faces to the show. Some made an impact and some didn’t.

    And they both had their pets. Latham seemed to have Gloria on almost everyday. Both seemed fascinated with Phyllis.

    Then Bell had the fascination with almost everyone having doubles and loved Adam and the whacko Patti/Mary Jane. And she was definitely fascinated with Cane. Plus she got rid of Jill and cut Nikki way back. And even tried to get rid of Melody Thomas.

    To me even with her so called pets the show seems a whole lot more balanced now than it has in a long time. And I am so glad that characters like Genevieve, Harmony and Patti/Mary Jane are gone.

  • Mike

    Joe S,

    I saw where Daytime Confidential listed those comparative numbers. They acted as if AMC did a lot better in the time slots due to their new episodes. But DC said that was an average for the time slot.

    If you take Friday for AMC and average the whole time slot, AMC did 85,750 which is not much above the average for the time slot the previous week.

    So I would agree with you that it is not good.

    I did not average the OLTL timeslot but since even the highest number was below the previous week average I know that it was below the slot.

    Fans on some boards of course are mad at Oprah over it saying she should have given the shows prime time slots so that they would have a chance.

  • Tim

    Days of our lives is on fire this week,its totally burning up,loving it can’t wait to see it tomorrow…..Now would be a great time for all ex viewers to look back in….its amazing….Tim

  • JayTN

    Mike…that is my main gripe with soap fans. They pleaded with – and kissed up to – Oprah to save AMC and OLTL when ABC canceled them. When she declined, they vilified her. When her OWN decided to air the Prospect Park produced episodes of AMC and OLTL, they loved her again. Now that the ratings are not great, they are back to vilifying her.

    They only love you if they like what you are doing. Contrary to popular belief, OWN is not that highly rated of a network. In fact, its ratings woes had been covered extensively in entertainment publications. At times, the Discovery Health Network (which OWN replaced) was doing better. The only time OWN seemed to score was when she herself was on the air. Even though OWN now has scripted series, they are not out-of-the-gate hits. Hits by OWN standards, but not by cable standards. “The Haves and the Have Nots” (which is OWN’s highest rated series) averages about 1.5 million viewers, while the comedy “Love Thy Neighbor” gets around 1 million viewers on Wednesdays. OWN’s reality shows tend to do even worse. OWN probably figured that it would be better to air AMC and OLTL in daytime, since that is where they aired on ABC. Oprah and OWN are in a no-win situation. If OWN did air them in primetime and they got similar ratings, soap fans would bitch and moan that they should have been aired in the daytime where fans are used to seeing them.

  • 02Justin10

    I just came across those viewership numbers on the SON website…and those numbers for AMC and OLTL are definitely low. I was honestly hoping to see close to 1 million viewers but oh well…the fans seriously need to stop complaining about everything because Oprah did not have to pick up these shows to air on tv for others to watch…

    Even though these tv numbers are low for the shows, I like to think that it is not all doom and gloom. Perhaps these shows are just so set up to be aired online…maybe the shows just don’t capture people back over on tv? Also, these eps are reairs and I think I’m probably one of a minority who is rewatching/DVRing these eps after watching all of them online. I agree with Mark in that I’m sure PP is looking at these numbers and will probably make another rash decision in the coming weeks…but now even that won’t be surprising.

    At least AMC and OLTL has a production company behind them that seems to be in this for the long haul, and that they will not give up in the near future. PP has and will continue to work their butts off for these shows, and that’s far more than what ABC is doing for GH right now. Honestly, I think the storytelling with the new AMC and OLTL are the best I’ve seen in quite a while overall. And their stories are much more realistic and the pace of the shows are faster. These shows may not capture a desired audience on OWN…but I’m confident that these shows will find their niche online and continue to progress.

  • Joe S

    @JAYTN actually a lot of people were hating on OPRAH when she added the Prospect Park episodes, saying that she was only doing it because her network was desperate for ratings.

    @mike Anyone who thinks prime time numbers would have made a difference I think are completely wrong. Since there are other things to compete with I think they would perform worse in prime time.

    @02justin10 the thing is if I remember correctly Prospect Park said long term they would need a tv deal to keep things going. I don’t think just online will keep them financially viable for years but I don’t know the exacts on that

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