NBC: 'Grimm' Is Certain To Be Renewed

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September 24th, 2013

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Our Renew / Cancel Index predicts potential renewal or cancellation for scripted broadcast primetime shows by the end of the 2013-14 season in May, 2014. (includes results from September 16-22, 2013):

Program Status
Grimm (F) :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

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Who says that the Cancellation Bear always brings bad news? He's starting off the 2013-14 season with only good news!

Grimm is certain to be renewed at the end of the 2013-14 season.

The show will begin its third season in 2013-14. At the end of this season, it will be within one more full season of the 88 episodes (give or take a couple) which currently seems to be the minimum for extra profitable stripped syndication. It's the only show produced by NBCU's Universal Television that's in its third season on NBC (recent carnage having thinned the rest of the herd), and is a lock for season four.

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*shows no longer on the air have their Renew/Cancel Index "frozen" at the point they left the schedule.

Notes:

  • :oops: - certain to be cancelled by May, 2014
  • :cry: :cry:- more likely to be cancelled than renewed by May, 2014
  • :| :| :| - toss up between renewal or cancellation by May, 2014
  • :) :) :) :) - more likely to be renewed than cancelled by May, 2014
  • :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: - certain to be renewed by May, 2014

The Renew/Cancel Index is the ratio of a scripted show's new episode adults 18-49 ratings relative to the new episode ratings of the other scripted shows on its own network. It's calculated by dividing a show's new episode Live+Same Day adults 18-49 average rating by the Live+Same Day new episode average of all the new scripted show episodes on the show's own network. The network's average ratings in the calculation are not time weighted (ex. hour long shows are not weighted twice what 30 minute shows are).

(F) -Fridays: Shows airing on Fridays were renewed with significantly lower than average Indexes.

How have the Renew / Cancel Index Worked Out In Past Seasons? See all the Renew / Cancel Index predicted renewals and cancellations from recent past television seasons.

 
  • Robert Ford

    While I think that it’s unfortunately likely that Community and/or Parks and Rec will be getting pretty bad ratings, I’m kind of wondering what will replace them.

    The MJF Show seems like the only one with potential to draw and audience; at least based on the teasers Sean Saves the World and Welcome to the Family don’t seem promising. It seems to me that NBC has once again picked shows that have a fairly limited potential audience. Same thing for Undateable, though I haven’t seen even the promo for that yet.

    And if the MJF crashes and burns, I wonder if NBC will give up sitcoms altogether. I certainly hope not. They gave us Cheers and Frasier, Seinfeld, Fresh Prince of Bel-Air, and 3rd Rock from the Sun, as well as Friends (which I didn’t like but did well) and a lot of their more recent stuff (which I liked, but didn’t do well). But if past history is any guide, I’ll be shocked if any NBC sitcom apart from MJF beats a 2.0 for the premiere, or gets so much as a 1.5 after the first few episodes. And I wouldn’t be entirely shocked if MJF doesn’t manage it either.

  • http://tvbythenumbers.com Bill Gorman

    “Can we all take a moment to remember that TVBTN predicted the first cancellation of the 2011-2012 season would be GRIMM?

    Oh, how times have changed…”

    Yep, I don’t make any predictions before I see the ratings. Even in jokey poll posts like that one.

  • Ultima

    @Robert Ford
    While I think that it’s unfortunately likely that Community and/or Parks and Rec will be getting pretty bad ratings, I’m kind of wondering what will replace them.

    They can always bump The Biggest Loser back up to two hours and drop down to a single hour of comedies in the fall if nothing hits.

    It seems extreme, but people said the same thing when myself and others were predicting the mass cancellations of their sitcoms last spring.

  • tvwatcher

    @ Some Guy
    Can we all take a moment to remember that TVBTN predicted the first cancellation of the 2011-2012 season would be GRIMM?

    Oh, how times have changed…
    I remember! :D Also, the surprise when the premiere aired and the dead certainty amongst many “pundits” that it was about to badly tank after that!

  • Ryan

    I predict that Parks and Rec gets a season 7. After Welcome to the Family, Sean Saves the World, Growing Up Fisher, and Undateable all flop, and after About a Boy and Michael J Fox Show are marginal disappointments, Parks and Rec will hold up alright. Community will be an enigma like always.

  • Dan

    @Ultima – I think Community/Parks & Rec renewal chances will have a lot to do with their comedy successes. If there success rate is as good as last season then I could see Parks & Rec and Community both getting final seasons, but if MJF, WTTF, & SSTW do well then those veterans are likely done.

  • Kenn

    I can’t wait for the season premiere.

  • Dan

    I never predict how new shows will do, but if a show is returning from last season then its an easy prediction usually to tell how the show will perform this season and New Girl, The Mindy Project, Last Man Standing, and The Neighbors are all good examples.

    I can’t tell with NBC but with ABC if I would have to guess among their drama shows SHIELD and OUAT Wonderland will get full seasons while Betrayal and Lucky 7 will be done after 13 eps (Though Betrayal only has 13 eps no matter what). Out of ABC’s four comedies I think The Goldbergs and Back in the Game have the best shot at full seasons while Trophy Wife and Super Fun Night probably wont make it past 13.

    Sleepy Hollow I think is only capped at 13 this season but I think FOX has the option to extend it which they will. Anyone have more info on that? Almost Human I cant predict but its almost too easy to say Brooklyn Nine-Nine will get a full year while Dads will be cancelled.

    With CW, The Originals and Tomorrow People will get full season while Reign may be capped at 13 but if CW is feeling generous they may give it extra eps.

    And with CBS Hostages is capped at 15 but due to its disappointing premiere, now its a question of if all episodes will air. My guess is 80/20 that they will all air. With CBS’s comedies my guess is Mom gets a full season of 24 episodes, We Are Men gets quickly replaced by Mike & Molly after a few episodes, The Crazy Ones will get a few more eps but will timeshare with Bad Teacher and The Millers will get 18 eps and timeshare with Friends with Better Lives both by March.

  • thesnowleopard

    Well…alrighty then. Not that I mind about Grimm being certain for a renewal, but that sure does qualify as early season hits bait.

  • DryedMangoez

    I think Grimm will do very well and will hopefully pair nicely with Dracula and Crossbones to bring more eyes to the night.

  • Gamechanger

    NBC Shouldn’t have cancelled Las Vegas a few years ago. Much better then Junk they have now. Infact you could bring it back and would still be better then most of the shows have.

  • Chris

    *I* was certainly surprised that Grimm didn’t get canceled in its first season. It was easy to believe that it was put in the Friday Death Slot so that NBC could quietly hide its corpse before the Fall sweeps. I’m still amazed that there was an audience for it.

    (Amazed, and disappointed, too — because I think the fear of losing that unexpected audience kept the show from improving. But perhaps that fear was justified, and falling into a rut so early did in fact keep the Nielsen viewers tucked in nice and close. NBC needed a steady ratings performer more than they needed an ambitious show, and you can’t argue that Grimm wasn’t very much the former.)

    Of course, even after being so very wrong about Grimm’s chances, I’m still convinced that Dracula is going to be a trainwreck, both dramatically and in terms of ratings. :P

  • BL

    @Dan
    Don’t trash talk about Parenthood. We haven’t seen the ratings yet. #smh

  • Ann

    I love Grimm and it’s one show I usually don’t worry about when it comes to ratings. They’ve always been a steady performer on Fridays for NBC and I see more of the same this season. I do have faith they will make it to syndication in due time.

  • Dan

    @BL – I actually think Parenthood is in a better position on Thursdays at 10 since its a comedy-drama more like NBC’s other family comedies, then the show was on Tuesdays at 10. Also with 22 episodes it will reach 90 for syndication. My guess is even against Scandal and Elementary, Parenthood will hold its own this season. But if it doesn’t than NBC could just cancel it or give it a short final season.

  • s0303

    i like grimm, but i am one of the few who thought last season took a step backward…i think it was best in the second half of the first season…hopefully it will return back to that form…

  • Dollface

    I hope it stays safe but honestly last season kinda blew. But ill stand by most scifi fantasy or horror shows just because that’s my cup of tea.

  • Bobby C

    More Grimm to look forward to!! Can’t wait for third season to start!

  • Janet

    Grimm is by far one of my favorite TV shows. Great acting and terrific story lines that just keep you coming back for more and more. As someone mentioned, you keep giving us Grimm and we’ll keep watching. There are not too many shows on regular channels that can compete with the major cable and pay channels, but Grimm has proved its metal. Thanks NBC for giving Grimm another year…great decision.

  • Prup (aka Jim Benton)

    Haven’t watched GRIMM — I was one who was sure it would be canceled since it was one of three fantasy dramas at the same time with CBS getting the non-fantasy audience. Once I saw I was wrong, I decided to wait for syndication so I could catch up — like I did with SUPERNATURAL, another wrong call.

    But NBC seems to have one potential (scripted) winner this year in THE BLACKLIST. One pilot is not enough to tell, but so far they seem to be avoiding all the mistakes that have made the last few post-LOST years so filled with dismal serialized dramas. (Remember THE LAST RESORT, and ALCATRAZ, and that Spielberg thing, and THE EVENT and the others. All obvious failures from the get-go, and many of which I predicted.)

    The rules are simple, but keep getting ignored. First, create a cast the audience is going to be interested in. Maybe not like, but care enough about to spend time each week following what happens to. That seems so obvious, it should be the basic rule for the creator of any television show, and yet we keep getting either collections of dreary, bickering, boring people, stock figures from the wooden part of the props department, or shows that think a star alone can sell. (Okay, that worked three times, with COLUMBO, MURDER SHE WROTE — only at the beginning — and THE FUGITIVE, but very few other times.)

    The old line was that tv enabled you to ‘invite people into your living room.’ It isn’t used, but it is still true. The first rule is find people you want to spend 30 or 60 minutes finding out about every week — when there are other things to do that do not involve the tv.

    Then, for dramas that have one overwhelming serialized story arc, forget that arc at first. Okay, each of the early episodes can and should advance it in little ways, but, at least for the first thirteen shows, make them capable of standing on their own, without the prop of the running thread. (This has always been true — except for true ‘nighttime soaps’ that are sold as such — but these days, after the list above, and the good shows that equally died with questions hanging — there is a part of me that still wants to yell ‘bring back LIFE’ — audiences are getting very suspicious of being involved with a story that may die with threads left hanging.)

    It is a shame few shows have the guts to do what SUPERNATURAL and, to a lesser extent, NCIS have done. They had story arcs planned, but you didn’t see them at first. It was almost the end of the first season of SUUPERNATURAL, after it had seemed like a (very good) “Monster of the Week” show, that you even suspected that everything you saw was tied in with the mysteries of the Winchester family, and their place in the coming Armageddon. And NCIS started, about halfway through the first season, with the episode of the ‘corpse that wasn’t,’ a story arc about the David family that is still running. It’s brilliant, but if it had been the key to the show, the only plot, we’d have been talking about Michael Weatherly’s new role years ago.

    Finally, okay, you have to give the viewer ;suspension of disbelief’ about the basic story — that isn’t an sf term, it refers to any drama or comedy. You had to suspend your knowledge that Gleason, Carney and Meadows were in a studio, that Lucy and Ricky, if really married, weren’t dwellers in a cheap apartment, etc.

    That doesn’t mean that you can trust your readers to accept any absurdity you throw them. At least at the beginning, you have to support your basic improbabilities by fitting them into a world that is familiar and makes sense. You don’t — as with the Spielberg mess — repeatedly add absurdities to the basic premise or people will realize how absurd it is as well, and simply stop caring. (If you start with absurdity upon absurdity, without the coherent center of rules that the story must obey, you can do anything. It’s “SUPERMAN without kryptonite’ and becomes boring fast.) Once the show is established, you can get away with more — what is the population of HAVEN — or Cabot Cove — after two seasons of people getting killed there and why do the non-troubled not sell out at once? But you already have your audience by then.

    BLACKLIST seems — okay, after one episode, but we’ve seen the reverse true so often, you knew from the beginning that THE EVENT, the Spielberg thing, and ALCATRAZ were lost rather than LOST — like it knows the rules and will handle them. There’s obviously a heavy story arc here, but maybe it can be held back with the restraint that the Red John subplot — still the weakest part of the show — was. Now the only question is whether the rest of the cast will become real enough and interesting enough — not just the co-star but the others — that they don’t disappear the way the original side-cast on UNFORGETABLE did.

    Cheers to NBC, they fina;lly may have a winner.

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