FOX: 'Dads' Is Still Certain To Be Canceled, No Matter How Many Extra Scripts Get Ordered

Categories: Cancel/Renew Fox Shows,Cancel/Renew Index

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October 15th, 2013

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Our Renew / Cancel Index predicts potential renewal or cancellation for scripted broadcast primetime shows by the end of the 2013-14 season in May, 2014. (includes results from September 16-October 13, 2013):

Program Status Renew/ Cancel Index
Dads :oops: 0.73
The Mindy Project :| :| :| 0.73
Brooklyn Nine-Nine :cry: :cry: 0.84
Bob's Burgers renewed 0.95
American Dad final season on Fox 0.97
Bones :) :) :) :) 0.98
Glee renewed 1.00
New Girl :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: 1.04
Family Guy :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: 1.18
The Simpsons renewed 1.37
Sleepy Hollow renewed 1.44

Fox ordered six extra scripts for Dads last week. That's schedule spackle at best (some episodes may be produced to fill in schedule gaps before spring) or keeping options open at worst (no additional episodes may be produced). Either way, the show is certain to be canceled. The bear apologizes for circling around to Dads so soon, but as you may note, there aren't that many shows in Fox's list for him to talk about!

Extra scripts were ordered for Brooklyn 9-9 as well. Same situation there, but its ratings aren't quite as bad. For that reason, it's just likely to be canceled.

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  • :oops: - certain to be cancelled by May, 2014
  • :cry: :cry:- more likely to be cancelled than renewed by May, 2014
  • :| :| :| - toss up between renewal or cancellation by May, 2014
  • :) :) :) :) - more likely to be renewed than cancelled by May, 2014
  • :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: - certain to be renewed by May, 2014

The Renew/Cancel Index is the ratio of a scripted show's new episode adults 18-49 ratings relative to the new episode ratings of the other scripted shows on its own network. It's calculated by dividing a show's new episode Live+Same Day adults 18-49 average rating by the Live+Same Day new episode average of all the new scripted show episodes on the show's own network. The network's average ratings in the calculation are not time weighted (ex. hour long shows are not weighted twice what 30 minute shows are).

(F) -Fridays: Shows airing on Fridays were renewed with significantly lower than average Indexes.

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  • Mark

    “Dads” is a dumpster fire. Bx99 is a better show and I hope that it can pull it out in the ratings.

  • Franko

    I think they’ll renew The Mindy Project, same like they did with Raising Hope all these seasons.

  • Jared

    I doubt those extra scripts will ever get produced. Dads will finish up it’s initial 6 episode order and never be heard from again.

  • Jonay

    How is it that The Mindy Project a toss up and doing worse than Brooklyn Nine-Nine which is doing better??

  • Mitchell

    Dads had a thirteen episode order, so that should be enough to take them to Spring. I’m guessing that Fox has little confidence in any of their midseason comedies. Us and Them is in trouble and I wouldn’t be shocked if one of the others also got their order cut. Dads could hang around for the whole year just by Fox thinking that their other comedies are even worse.

  • Mitchell


    Being a veteran (even just a sophomore) gives Mindy a lot more leeway, and their ratings have been pretty neck and neck the last two weeks. If it was an either-or decision (which I don’t think it is), they’d go with Mindy.

  • AlanHalliwell

    Yes Glee’s tribute brought it to solid 1.00

  • gerry

    i like bk99 and mindy. keep those, scrap dads, add one new sitcom to the mix next year.

    is raising hope being used as a replacement for spring? or is it done?

  • Shepherd

    I never noticed how few shows I watch on FOX.

  • Dennis

    Glee doesn’t really matter. It is already renewed for another season. And the next season will most probably be it’s last if we should believe Murphy and Fox

  • Bill Gorman

    “is raising hope being used as a replacement for spring? or is it done?”

    Raising Hope will air its 4th season episodes on Fridays starting reasonably soon.

  • Dan S

    I have a suggestion for the bear. Rather than taking down B99 down how about just eating its star Andy Samberg ? Just saying

  • Wil

    I was for this show, at the start, for a number of different reasons. Among them, Seth MacFarland, and the way the first episode was so not politically correct. I wanted it to stay that way. Insulting everyone, but by episode two it was nothing special and the one ‘jewish joke’ was a non-starter. I now don’t bother to watch the show at all so a cancellation will not bother me.


    Agree with post

    Raising Hope begins w/ 1-hr premiere on 11/8

    Honestly, Bill

  • Max

    Glad Sleepy Hollow got renewed

  • Stephen

    Dads won’t see a season 2 but with FOX apparently committed to RH on Fridays and very limited options for replacement sitcoms it might get more episodes and still be airing in the spring. If it drops below a 1.0 in next few episodes though then either New Girl repeats or something will take its place. 9-9 still hanging in there it might survive if it stabilizes and if FOX needs same number of sitcoms on next fall. Mindy has a shot to get a 3rd season but can’t really drop any further.

    Bones should be ok on Fridays – it’s right around average on Monday and Fridays have different expectations so it should hold up ratings wise. If it doesn’t get renewed it will be more likely because of high costs for older show or if stars/showrunners want to end it.

  • Dan

    Fox ordering more Dads makes sense for the following reasons

    A) More episodes means a bridge to whatever show replaces Dads like Surviving Jack. That’s what was planned for Ben & Kate although that show only aired 13 eps anyway.

    B) Fox keeps the writers and cast at work, which delays canceling the show until May.

    C) Fox Tuesdays are low enough where pulling the show or airing a replacement may make the night worse so why not just keep the show for now.

    It may sound crazy but maybe Fox doesn’t want to cancel anything this fall. Last year their first cancellation was The Mob Doctor in November and that aired all its episodes and the year before it was Allen Gregory and even that was in December after it aired all episodes.

    Brooklyn 9-9 will get a full season and Dads may get additional eps. Mindy Project will air all 22 eps and then in May it will be cancelled.

  • TVDude

    In my opinion, Fox is in an even worse situation than NBC is this season. NBC’s scripted is much worse, but Fox’s reality has also fallen far. Plus NBC does have a couple solid scripted performers including The Blacklist and Chicago Fire, which both take in the success of The Voice.

    Fox doesn’t have a lot of strong shows that can be used to launch new shows, which is their real problem. They have a couple, I suppose, but not even close to what they had a while ago. I mean, Bones used to be huge.

    The fact Fox hasn’t pulled Dads yet is a sad indicator of what’s coming in the spring (in terms of new shows). Raising Hope isn’t even being brought in yet, which I find interesting.

  • rjb

    Brooklyn 99, at 8:30 p.m., has never gotten stellar ratings, but it’s consistently been higher-rated than its 8:00 p.m. leadin, “Dads.” All other network shows at this time are full-hour shows. So that means that some viewers either don’t turn the TV on at all until 8:30, or they leave a full-hour show halfway through in order to see B99. Wouldn’t network programmers take this into account?

  • Alex J

    Fox is shooting themselves in the foot. They are dooming good comedies before they even air. Goodwin Games last year, and Us & Them this year.

    They will be hurting in a year or two when American Dad is gone, Raising Hope is gone, Mindy will be gone, and the biggest loss… X-Factor will be gone soon (its getting beat by survivor in total & demo. middle in total and tied in demo. and by the end of the season i see revolution also narrowing the gap).

    My guess in 2 years Fox may be left with a half of it’s animation, sleepy hollow (assuming they don’t treat it like fringe), glee, new girl, a very old bones, and american idol in the spring. it needs hits bad and back to my first statement, they are chopping some of their comedies at the knees.

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