NBC: 'Ironside' Is Certain To Be Canceled

Categories: Cancel/Renew Index,Cancel/Renew NBC Shows

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October 15th, 2013

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Our Renew / Cancel Index predicts potential renewal or cancellation for scripted broadcast primetime shows by the end of the 2013-14 season in May, 2014. (includes results from September 16-October 13, 2013):

Program Status Renew/ Cancel Index
Welcome To The Family :oops: (canceled 10/18) 0.53
Sean Saves The World :oops: 0.67
Ironside :oops: (canceled 10/18) 0.67
Parks & Recreation :| :| :| 0.69
Parenthood :| :| :| 0.80
Revolution :| :| :| 0.91
The Michael J. Fox Show :| :| :| 0.94
Law & Order: SVU :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: 1.17
Chicago Fire :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: 1.37
The Blacklist :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: 1.89
Grimm (F) :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

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The Cancellation Bear would like to thank NBC for not making any announcements about Ironside in the past week. That gave him time to put the show in this week's headline.

Now, if they can hold off any announcements about Sean Saves The World for another week, the bear will be even more thankful.

The bear's moved The Michael J Fox Show down to a "toss up", as was Parks & Recreation. They might stay that way until the bear sees the other sitcoms still to come this season for NBC.

The bear's biding his time making a call on Revolution, at current relative ratings levels it could go either way, particularly considering the relative success of NBC dramas vs. their total sitcom failure. Bubble Watch likes to make calls early (and has only one headline to create each week). The cancellation bear knows that this prediction race is a marathon, not a sprint, and he's got 30 more weeks (and 150 headlines, god help the bear) to go!

Better to Follow The Bear, Than Be Chased By Him. You can follow the Cancellation Bear on Twitter via @TheCancelBear. The Cancellation Bear will retweet all the Renew/Cancel Index post titles and links as well as engage in a little more back and forth banter than we do on our standard @TVbytheNumbers Twitter feed.
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*shows no longer on the air have their Renew/Cancel Index "frozen" at the point they left the schedule.

Notes:

  • :oops: - certain to be cancelled by May, 2014
  • :cry: :cry:- more likely to be cancelled than renewed by May, 2014
  • :| :| :| - toss up between renewal or cancellation by May, 2014
  • :) :) :) :) - more likely to be renewed than cancelled by May, 2014
  • :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: - certain to be renewed by May, 2014

The Renew/Cancel Index is the ratio of a scripted show's new episode adults 18-49 ratings relative to the new episode ratings of the other scripted shows on its own network. It's calculated by dividing a show's new episode Live+Same Day adults 18-49 average rating by the Live+Same Day new episode average of all the new scripted show episodes on the show's own network. The network's average ratings in the calculation are not time weighted (ex. hour long shows are not weighted twice what 30 minute shows are).

(F) -Fridays: Shows airing on Fridays were renewed with significantly lower than average Indexes.

How have the Renew / Cancel Index Worked Out In Past Seasons? See all the Renew / Cancel Index predicted renewals and cancellations from recent past television seasons.

 
  • Chris J

    @Dan

    I agree Revolution is going to air all of its 22 episodes regardless I never said NBC would cut the order.

    For this season Revolution is fine, but I’m hoping Kripke has the sense to see the writing on wall for the series and give viewers a satisfying ending for this season since this will likely be the last.

    NBC did the right thing last season by canceling all of their weak comedies. Next season they should do the same, and cut comedy hours again until a legitimate hit is found that can anchor a night.

    It’s too bad NBC’s new comedies didn’t take this season. But I’m not surprised because the comedies were simply star vehicles and nothing else. They are all subpar even compared to Go On. That’s more the problem than anything else.

    NBC needs to produce a funny comedy again!

    For now though as I said above community and parks may actually get renewed for spackle again at this rate.

    I personally think both should be cancelled though. Both shows are having major actors leave during this season and there’s not much story left to tell for either series (Parks everyone is already living in happily ever after. Community everyone graduates this season anyway.)

  • KevinY

    NBC comedies certain to be on the Fall schedule in 2014: New Meg Ryan pilot, New Susan Sarandan/Eva Amurri pilot

    Everything else is in danger unfortunately (I actually like all four of their current Thursday comedies).

  • Steve

    NBC — Needs Better Comedies.

    Not one of their sitcoms is beating the R/C index of 1.

  • Oliver

    @Dan
    I was still very surprised at the Go On cancellation last May. Sure its ratings sucked but every show besides the ending Office’s ratings were bad. Parks was OK and Community was somewhat respectable. However NBC took a bad gamble on basically starting Thursday nights fresh and completely from scratch. Even if they do cancel all their comedies this season they will just have the same problem next season when they start from scratch again and the shows premiere even lower.
    I was impressed that NBC cancelled Go On, which was clearly the right decision. Horrible ratings and expensive.

    If they were going to bring back another comedy then it should have been Whitney. Equally bad ratings but older and cheaper.

  • Chris J

    @Oliver

    If they renewed Whitney they’d have to renew it for 2 seasons. That wouldn’t have been a wise decision either. So it was good that they canned Whitney as well.

    Parks and Community are both in syndication already so the more episodes produced at this point, means the more money NBC and Sony make.

    That’s the only reason both may even get a spackle order next season. I doubt NBC will trust either to anchor a night anymore after the disaster of this season though!

  • rehabber

    Since I do not like Blair Underwood, I did not watch Ironside, but Revolution is getting better as it goes, less Charlie would be even better.

  • omabin

    I agree with every prediction here. Parks, Michael J.Fox, Parenthood and Revolution are definitely bubble shows and I suspect they will continue to be until later in the season.

    I know some people here vastly disagree and I can certainly understand why but I think NBC should move the blacklist come midseason after the olympics to anchor wednesdays and let another drama benefit from the voice. The blacklist would have enough momentum to survive and, regardless, the voice barely provided revolution with help in the spring cylce – viewers who want to watch it did, those who didn’t want didn’t. It was still some tenths higher but not enough to offset the potential beneficial move of improving wednesdays and potentially getting another long term player exposed to the voice.

  • s0303

    i’m beginning to think revolution may be renewed…i think all the toss up shows are in danger and revolution may end up the highest rated of the 4…they aren’t going to cancel all of them, i’m guessing…

  • senor chang

    @omabin
    That’s a good point.

    With that (hypothetical) change made, I can see a good midseason schedule looking something like this – switch up the new shows as you desire:

    MONDAYS: The Voice/BELIEVE
    TUESDAYS: ABOUT A BOY/THE FAMILY GUIDE/The Voice/Chicago Fire
    WEDNESDAYS: Revolution/The Blacklist/Chicago PD
    THURSDAYS: The Biggest Loser/Michael J Fox/UNDATEABLE/Parenthood
    FRIDAYS: Parks/Community/Grimm/THE NIGHT SHIFT
    SUNDAYS: Dateline/AMERICAN DREAM BUILDERS/Law & Order: SVU/CRISIS

  • Dan

    @Chris J – The funny thing is, Clever comedies arent highly rated on NBC, The Office was the exception but 30 Rock, Parks & Rec, Community all funny but low rated.

    Welcome to the Family is basically Romeo & Juliet meets The New Normal. The series has every cliched pregnant teen sitcom with the family squabbling. Its not laugh out loud funny.

    Sean Saves the World is basically Will & Grace if Jack had a kid and a family. It looks straight from the 90s and I guess thats what NBC tried to duplicate.

    Michael J Fox show tries to be Modern Family with the couch talks and its the best family sitcom of the 3. I think if given the shot it could go places.

    Go On and New Normal were great shows last fall and had great ratings, but by Winter when everything flopped, NBC didn’t know what to do with them. They should have saved new episodes for the post Voice slot if they wanted to keep the shows but by that time NBC gave up on them and opted for that garbage Ready of Love that flopped on the spot. Thus they wanted to start completely fresh.

    Its amazing how when NBC has 7 new comedies, not one of them makes it to another season, which shows how bad NBC’s Thursdays are. They made the right move by moving Parenthood to Thursdays at 10 but its bad lead in didn’t help. I doubt they will ever recover.

  • omabin

    @senor chang,

    I wouldn’t move SVU at this point to Sundays, it’s kind of a waste because I think Sundays won’t work this season no matter what. Besides, next fall they would have to move it again! I would also reduce those comedy hours, I don’t think they should have comedy on tuesdays.

    I would do:
    Monday
    The Voice
    Best out of Crisis/Believe/The Night Shift

    Tuesday
    The Voice
    Chicago PD
    Chicago Fire

    Wednesday
    Revolution
    The Blacklist
    Law and Order: SVU

    Thursday
    The Biggest Looser
    The Biggest Looser
    Parenthood

    Friday
    Community/Parks
    Grimm
    Crossbones

    Sunday
    Dateline
    America’s Home Builders
    About a Boy | Michael J.Fox
    Worst out Crisis/ Believe/ The Night Shift

  • Dan

    @Oliver – Yeah but a familiar comedy on NBC would have been better then starting fresh, which almost never works. It worked for ABC Wed in 2009 but that was a RARE exception. And 3 of those shows (The Middle, Modern Family and Cougar Town are still on the air)

    I would figure they would renew Whitney for spackle but Chris J is right, they would have to give it 2 full seasons for syndication and NBC wasnt ready for that.

    NBC is always the most interesting because unlike ABC, CBS, and FOX, NBC is always a wild card when it comes to renewals. With other networks I can predict schedules and definitely renewals/cancellations but NBC is always a mystery.

    Sure SVU will get a 16th season, and Chicago Fire and Grimm will both be back. But Revolution and Parenthood could go either way.

    One could say Parenthood has improved on the 10pm Thursday slot of any show aired there but again its old and expensive.

    Revolution is low rated and expensive but on par with Wed other shows.

    Parks has always been low rated yet NBC has been known to give shows they own a short farewell season. That could be this season for Parks or it could get a final seventh season, we will know likely by March.

  • Irene

    I watched Ironside five minutes. I could just cry when I see the remakes of classic shows. (Hawaii 5-0, V, Ironside) Why they try to recreate is beyond my comprehension.

    Dallas continued the story. I believe that is more duable. Not always, mind you, but it has a better chance of suceeding.

  • Chris J

    @senor chang
    @omabin

    I think it’s too soon to talk about moving The Blacklist. We aren’t even sure if it’s a bonafide “hit” yet. It would be wise for NBC to give it this season and the next behind the Voice to continue to grow it’s audience and become a show with a fanbase strong enough to follow it to any night of the week.

    NBC’s other dramas such as Believe and Crisis don’t look like they’re worth the post-Voice slot. Believe is another serialized sci-fi drama akin to Revolution that will probably tank, and Crisis is also another serialized cop drama akin to Hostages that will probably tank. NBC doesn’t need another Smash fall off like next season with either of those shows! If they both bomb on Sunday it’ll be easy for NBC to drop them.

    The Blacklist will likely remain steady in the Spring on Monday, and next season, NBC can shift it to Tuesday 10pm, and let the Chicago series anchor Wednesday night.

  • Chris_SAdvisor

    Welcome To The Family is >96. I lost that one, but why? If Rev. does not decline tonight, I will be surprised – but will also adjust my prediction to it possibly surviving past mid-season. NBC obviously has nothing, so they cannot make a change. Sanders and Salke are probably going nuts trying to stop the hemorrhaging. Before long, AMC will be better earners when it comes to non-sports content.

  • RJ

    “Clever comedies arent highly rated on NBC, The Office was the exception but 30 Rock, Parks & Rec, Community all funny but low rated.”

    30 Rock got pretty respectable 18-49 ratings for its first few years (after it was moved from Wednesday to Thursday early in its first season).

  • Dan

    @RJ – Yeah but 30 Rock was the lowest rated of the comedies (The Office, Scrubs, My Name is Earl) It was back when NBC was doing modest but not gasping for air. Most shows got at least a 2.0.

    Since 2008 however all comedies have kept sinking and sinking. Now they are airing at CW levels. One has to wonder, when that will stop.

    If NBC never developed the Voice, they would just be football and olympics at this point.

    The best we can hope for is that Community, Parks and Parenthood all get proper finales.

  • Dan

    @Bill – You don’t have to worry about NBC cancelling SSTW in the next week. It’s in better shape than both Ironside and Welcome to the Family and since both of those will be canned first, its possible NBC could order additional eps of SSTW.

    Since MJF already has a full order and Blacklist got a full season, and Dracula is only 13 episodes, the only announcements from NBC will likely be that WTTF is pulled from the schedule, Ironside is either pulled or done airing after its 13 episodes, and Sean is either capped at 13 or they order more episodes to have on the sched.

  • Eric Underwood

    I like Ironside, NBC would be stupid if they cancell that show. Seems like when NBC gets a good show on there they want to cancell it, that’s why they’re not a #1 Network.

  • senor chang

    The problem with moving The Blacklist is that a lot of other shows hav to move along with it: you have a new drama on Monday, schedule changes on Wednesdays, virtually an entire night of new programming on Sunday (ala ABC’s Tuesday fiasco), and a boatload of comedy shuffles to announce. Saving the big moves for the fall season would be a wiser long-term move in my opinion.

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