Soap Opera Ratings: 'General Hospital' & 'Young and the Restless' Down from Last Week in Women 18-49 & Total Viewers

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December 20th, 2013


via Soap Opera Network:

Ratings  for the Week of December 9-13, 2013


Numbers are based on Live+Same Day ratings

(Compared to Last Week/Compared to Last Year)


Total Viewers
1. Y&R 4,936,000 (-51,000/+564,000)
2. B&B 3,849,000 (+21,000/+591,000)
3. GH 3,057,000 (-248,000/+400,000)
4. DAYS 2,669,000 (-11,000/+300,000)

1. Y&R 3.5/11 (same/+.2)
2. B&B 2.7/8 (same/+.3)
3. GH 2.3/7 (-.2/+.3)
4. DAYS 1.9/6 (-.1/+.1)

Women 18-49 Viewers
1. GH 779,000 (-101,000/+169,000)
2. Y&R 761,000 (-70,000/-43,000)
3. B&B 617,000 (-60,000/-50,000)
4. DAYS 614,000 (-45,000/+65,000)

Women 18-49 Rating
1. Y&R 1.2/8 (-.1/-.1)
1. GH 1.2/8 (-.2/+.2)
3. DAYS 1.0/6 (same/+.1)
3. B&B 1.0/6 (-.1/same)


Source: Soap Opera Network


Y&R = The Young & The Restless, B&B = The Bold and The Beautiful, GH = General Hospital, DAYS = Days of Our Lives.

Nielsen TV Ratings Data: ©2013 The Nielsen Company. All Rights Reserved.

  • Mike

    Not Melody’s fans trying to force but his fans.

  • SoapFansTogether

    OK, it’s quite obvious that even soaps cannot go up every single week.

    So, they’re “down” from last week, but still with SUPERB numbers and about 1.8 million viewers gained since last year!

    GH has a 1.4 (!) rating in the women 18-49 key sales demo this season so far.

    That’s about DOUBLE the rating that CBS’s “The Talk” is drawing in the same time slot [Only think about what numbers AS THE WORLD TURNS could be drawing now (again!), if they had made the same smart changes with this decade-long household mark that were made with GH!!).

    And that’s about 70% more than ABC’s “The Chew” is drawing and more than double the numbers of the now canceled ABC show “Katie”.

    Bottom line: Soaps are drawing the best numbers in the key sales demos BY FAR. Networks have to correct their historic mistake of killing decade-long cash-cows like ATWT, GL, AMC and OLTL – NOW!

  • Mike

    The Chew has been getting .9 to 1.0 in 18-49 while GH has been getting 1.0 to 1.2 — each in live plus 1.

    How does that make GH 70% higher than The Chew in 18-49?

    Even if the Chew only has a 1.0 for the season and GH has a 1.4 that is still not 70% higher.

    Sounds like someone needs to go back to math class.

  • Nick

    @SoapFansTogether (gee, must have taken you all year to come up with that name)

    Try getting your facts straight before you come on here like an authoritative know-it-all on daytime ratings, and whining with your same old, beyond tired, twisted propaganda/garbage about the ratings for the replacement shows vs. the soaps. The reality is that talk shows can draw ratings somewhat lower than that of soaps and still be more profitable. Like it or not, that’s a fact and that’s business. If you can’t handle that without throwing a tantrum here like a jilted soap fan, then that’s your problem.

    The bottom line is that CBS and ABC both seem happy with their current daytime lineups, and most likely won’t be changing anything soon. (Btw, Katie Couric’s now-cancelled show is syndicated. It’s NOT an ABC network show. It does not air on the ABC station in every market. Understand that already. Apples and oranges.) With the mix that they have now, both networks are making more $$$ than when they had 3 or 4 soaps, and they’re spending much less on their lineups as a whole. TV is a business, in case you’re unaware.

    And for the 2,576th time: None of those cancelled soaps are coming back, period. Dream on and move on.

    Even with Katie’s cancellation, ABC affiliates will keep that hour for themselves and plug in other syndicated shows or local newscasts in that hour. So I suggest that you get over it and move on like every person in the real world has – NOW!!

  • Craigger T

    Mike, you are not THE expert on here, (despite what you think) but what do you think about Muhney’s sexual assault case? What does this mean for Y&R’s ratings? Will Y&R survive without Muhney, who was fired because he sexually assaulted a co-star?

  • Nick

    “SoapFansTogether” keeps posting the same exact nonsense under different names on different sites. It’s so obvious how full of it he/she is. Not fooling anyone, pal. You’ve been exposed!

  • Mike

    In all this other stuff I forgot to mention that SoapNet is officially gone for us now. Yesterday morning it was still showing on the guide as a channel but noticed last night that it was gone. We have Charter.

    Not sure if any of the rest of you have already lost it too.

    It’s a shame. What could have been such a good thing for soaps was just so badly managed.

  • Pat

    Crazy soap fans like “SoapFansTogether” above are a total embarrassment and give all fans of daytime soaps collectively a bad name, unfortunately. I love the genre and want to see it survive, but I’m a realist and I’m sure there are many others out there like me.

    As sad as it was to see them go off, it’s very clear now that dumping AMC and OLTL was a good business decision for ABC. (Same with GL and ATWT for CBS.) When comparing those shows to The Chew (and LMAD/The Talk) you have to factor in that a talk show or game show is much cheaper to produce and almost certainly performs at a higher level in repeats than a soap would. And even though GH is doing very well now (give them a lot of credit for revitalizing the show), that’s no guarantee that AMC and/or OLTL would be doing that much better if they both had stayed on. Daytime soaps are very expensive to produce, and ABC obviously decided in 2011 that they’d only be able to stick with one at most going forward. With their current combination of shows, their ad revenue level has to be higher than toward the end of their time airing 3 soaps consecutively.

    Furthermore, ABC gave away the 3 pm/ET hour (GH’s former longtime time slot) to affiliates, so that’s one less hour that the network is responsible for programming, thus ostensibly lowering their costs further. It was a decision meant to last long-term, far beyond the life span of Katie Couric’s talk show. The cancellation of Katie won’t give that hour back to ABC or ever bring back the cancelled soaps. (Yes, her show was syndicated by Disney/ABC, but it did not air on every ABC station, or right after GH on every one it did air on.) Dragging up AMC/OLTL’s cancellation into every conversation about Katie is unfair and an apples/oranges comparison.

  • Amanda

    Can’t we all just simply be happy that GH is red hot, doing so well, and looks like it has a long-term future? Does everything have to be turned into a nasty comparison between talk show ratings and soap ratings? (A certain bitter, trouble-making poster with a 3-word name higher up on this page needs to give it a rest already.) The economics is what it is, and the complaining just comes across like sour grapes at this point.

    No matter what and no matter how you feel at this point in time, AMC, OLTL, GL, and ATWT are not coming back, and certainly not to ABC’s/CBS’s airwaves. Its clear that neither network has any regrets about those decisions. Those ships have long sailed. Anyone who continues to demand that they return is only going to end up hurt and very disappointed. I know it was sad to lose them and that we all miss them, but for crying out loud, please move on already. To STILL not be able to move on and STILL let the cancellations of these long-running TV shows affect your life 3-4 years later is pathetic honestly, IMO.

    Instead of wasting that energy, be grateful that the 4 soaps still on the air appear to be safe, at least for the foreseeable future, and support those shows as much as you can.

  • mindy34

    gosh, the anti-soaps lobby is going crazy, because soaps are drawing so much better ratings in the key demos than anything else.

    get over it!

  • SoapFansTogether

    Spreading lies and distorting facts all the time.

    The only one you’re fooling here is yourself.

    And anyone besides you and your hundreds of different nicks
    knows exactly what your agenda is.

    “The Chew” has a 0.8-0.9 rating in women 18-49 this season so far
    versus GH’s 1.4 .

    So, that’s about 70% more for GH.

    Who is the one who needs to go back to math class here?

    That these soap-bashers are freaking out because advertisers are increasing the pressure to put on more soaps again is very much understandable, though.

    Some people here do not seem to be very well-informed about the debates that are going on in certain (relevant) circles.

  • SoapFansTogether

    last comment @Mike aka Pat aka…

  • Pat

    SoapFansTogether, Mike (with the picture) and I are two totally different posters. We are NOT the same person. Geez, do you really think there are not multiple real people/posters who disagree with your pathetic garbage?

    If you cannot tolerate a commenter who has a different opinion than yourself about soaps and/or someone who corrects your mistake without resorting to name-calling and cheap shots, then go somewhere else. Geez, anyone who keeps it real and is not a total cheerleader is a “soap-basher” or “anti-soap”? Grow up. You really need to get a life. Oh, I forgot- you know EVERYTHING about daytime ratings, advertising, etc. (cue the sarcasm).

    Is this the way you act toward people in real life who tell you something you don’t want to hear? What if someone expresses an opposing point of view about something to you or corrects your mistakes? Do you call him/her names too? Stay classy. No wonder people out there in the real world roll their eyes at soap fans, which is a real shame.

  • Heather

    SoapFansTogether, you do realize that one major reason why GH’s ratings are high is because ABC has now one soap to produce instead of three.

    As far as saying the cancelled soaps would be drawing these kind of numbers if they were still around, that’s all speculation. You have absolutely no proof to back this statement. I actually think the reason why the current soaps are doing well now is because other soaps were cancelled.

    Although I no longer watch soaps, I have watched many during the 1970s 1980s, 1990s and even 2000s. Many of my favorite soaps such as Search for Tomorrow and Another World have been cancelled. I’ve moved on. Life is way too short to wasting it with all sorts of fruitless posts about bringing back the soaps. Network executives don’t read soap message boards. And even if they did, it wouldn’t change a thing. Fans of AMC and OLTL have been sending mails to ABC for more than 2 years now about bringing back the soaps. As ABC revived them? So why would you think they would in the future? So at this point, I have to agree with Amanda that theses fans are doing more harm to themselves than to ABC.

  • Mike

    Duh someone still doesn’t know how to add.

    If GH was 70% higher than even 0.8, it would have to have a rating of 1.8.

    50% higher is a 1.6.

    50% is half more. 0.8 plus 0.8 is 1.6.

    It’s the same as if you buy something that is 50% off then you are taking half off.

    GH is not even getting half more than The Chew — so if it is not half more than The Chew how in the world can it be even 70% higher?

  • Mike

    Craigger T,

    As I told someone else last week I am not playing into the snarky and the name calling mess that sometimes goes on here.

    I come here because I enjoy discussing the ratings and discussing the soaps. No other board that I have ever been too has a good thread anymore just to discuss the ratings and what influences them.

    I am no expert and I come here to learn from others. If you want to discuss the numbers and the soaps without the snarkiness I will but approached as you did, I won’t participate.

  • Bizzarr1000

    Its GH and Y&r for me how would the hardcore Y&R fans feel if they recast adam with Trevor’s St John do the y&r fanslike steve burton

  • Mike

    I apologize for the math post above from me. When I was doing that math above I had been at a Christmas party and had a few drinks that were not supposed to have had alcohol in them but they had been spiked. The dangers of this time of the year.

    Even I know in my right mind that you do not get 50% of .8 and it be .8

  • Mike


    This Y&R fan likes Trevor St. John but I do not feel he is right for Adam. For one thing he seems too old for Adam in my opinion.

  • Mike

    By the way Soap Fans Together what is your source for the season to date number for The Chew? Is that an estimate made by you?

    I would like to know where the season to date numbers are being published for The Chew?

    If it just an estimate based on press releases?

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